Hot Volcano Posted August 24 Posted August 24 16 hours ago, brenda-walsh said: i'm sorry, but not even you believe this what kind of dumb logic is this for the RIAA to certify an album without hitting a threshold. whitney's 2nd album sold 9.8M pure sales by the very early 90s and didn't get certified diamond until a few years ago thanks to streaming. the RIAA didn't certify it diamond because guess what, it hadn't crossed 10M sales. the only way that works is when an album is overshipped, like what happened with this album, Adele's 30, and many other albums. hence, why they get certified so large so early on into their album run then fail to cross the next threshold for years. there isn't any conspiracy against Xtina or magical loss of club sales numbers. its simply because the album has yet to cross 10M sales You are very lost We have RECEIPTS that the album SOLD, I repeat SOLD, not shipped over 9m pure copies. Multiple major publications reported that number over the past 20 years. In Adele's case they shipped too many copies and that counted for the RIAA certification, but she never managed to SELL those copies.
Green Posted August 24 Posted August 24 2 hours ago, °ColdFire° said: BMG sales are not counted for RIAA certifications anymore unlike in the past as they deem those sales as "lost". Hence, "Christina Aguilera" needs to reach 10 million units without BMG sales to reach Diamond status. The same thing happened with Britney's "Britney". The album's sales without club sales are around 4,827,250, so until it reaches 5M units it will not be certified 5xPlatinum despite being well over 5 million with club sales. So that's the reason Britney (the album) wasn't certified 5x Platinum in the last RIAA update they did for Britney Spears last year...
brenda-walsh Posted August 24 Posted August 24 7 hours ago, Hot Volcano said: You are very lost We have RECEIPTS that the album SOLD, I repeat SOLD, not shipped over 9m pure copies. Multiple major publications reported that number over the past 20 years. In Adele's case they shipped too many copies and that counted for the RIAA certification, but she never managed to SELL those copies. you're the one who's lost and has zero reading comprehension. i said the 9x platinum certification back in 2001 was most likely a result of being overshipped. clearly those copies have sold in the 25 years since. i literally even said in another comment that her album is probably around 9.75M SPS. please learn how to read before insulting others
Hot Volcano Posted August 24 Posted August 24 (edited) 6 minutes ago, brenda-walsh said: you're the one who's lost and has zero reading comprehension. i said the 9x platinum certification back in 2001 was most likely a result of being overshipped. clearly those copies have sold in the 25 years since. i literally even said in another comment that her album is probably around 9.75M SPS. please learn how to read before insulting others Her pure sales combined with the Club sales have been at ~9.6m pure for the past 10+ years. To say its not eligible for Diamond is absurd since streaming easily brings in another 0.4m. Edited August 24 by Hot Volcano 1
brenda-walsh Posted August 24 Posted August 24 1 minute ago, Hot Volcano said: Her pure sales combined with the Club sales have been at ~9.6m pure for the past 20+ years. To say its not eligible for Diamond is absurd since streaming easily brings in another 0.4m. so the RIAA has some sort of conspiracy against her and doesn't want her to be diamond certified, right?
QuanticXplosion Posted August 24 Posted August 24 14 hours ago, Distantconstellation said: Genie in a bottle did 664,130 on spotify yesterday, its biggest day EVER. the road to 500m will be a breeze. Wow. That is a lot.
Distantconstellation Posted August 24 Posted August 24 51 minutes ago, brenda-walsh said: so the RIAA has some sort of conspiracy against her and doesn't want her to be diamond certified, right? No one is talking about conspiracies. The label has to pay for certifications. Look how undercertified janet is. With SPS her debut should be Diamond, if BMG club sales 935k are included in the total album sales.
supertiffany Posted August 24 Posted August 24 15 hours ago, brenda-walsh said: tell that to Whitney Houston's second album that was stuck on 9x platinum for 25 years despite being at 9.8M pure sales for all those years so? do you think what happened to one album will happened to another? still there are many albums that are not selling as much or even equivalent to their certification.
supertiffany Posted August 24 Posted August 24 12 hours ago, Hot Volcano said: You are very lost We have RECEIPTS that the album SOLD, I repeat SOLD, not shipped over 9m pure copies. Multiple major publications reported that number over the past 20 years. In Adele's case they shipped too many copies and that counted for the RIAA certification, but she never managed to SELL those copies. that user is pathetic even saying those who complain has conspiracies with RIAA lol! again an album doesnt have to SELL more than or even equivalent to their certification. obviously this is the LABEL'S FAULT and not RIAA'S FAULT
La Reina Posted August 25 Posted August 25 "One million units in 24 years" is not accurate because it also doesn't mean it ends at 1 million. With streams/SPS, the reissues, and back catalogue sales, it's probably more like 1.5-1.8m units, so it's close to Diamond but not there YET. But it's close. Of course, if those 953,000 BMG Club Sales were counted by RIAA, it'd be well past Diamond by now.
brenda-walsh Posted August 25 Posted August 25 21 hours ago, supertiffany said: do you think what happened to one album will happened to another? that logic also applies to your point
Distantconstellation Posted August 28 Posted August 28 Genie In a Bottle had It's biggest Monday update on Spotify with 612,653 streams! If its doing those numbers on a Monday then end of the week should be 700k+ easily.
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