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The song feels much bigger than its chart run on Billboard suggests tbh, especially worldwide. 

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It's much bigger globally than in the U.S. It's going to be her fastest song to 1B on Spotify beating 7 rings . Radio hasn't been here for her this album which is weird. Positions was a smash era on radio and ES did just okay. I know ATRL is a bunch of pop gays but a good portion of her U.S audience is here for her more urban sound evidenced by Positions doing significantly better on streaming and radio in the U.S. Besides TBIM which was a post album single and they completely missed the timing for it, both singles from ES were pop. U.S tends to sleep on her more poppier songs since 2016. 

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It did fine but considering the way she's ignored the era, this isn't shocking.

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2 hours ago, theweekend said:

this was stronger WW than in US. quite shocking for Ariana which US was her main market.

What do you mean quite shocking?

All dance songs underperform in the us

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It's a beautiful song and the saving grace of singles for ES 

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It was and still is a global smash hit. Nothing went wrong.

 

How are you still getting brave after swearing that she was over earlier this year and that Endless Snooze Vacation was going to be bigger than Eternal Sunshine. :laugh:

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4 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

How are you still getting brave after swearing that she was over earlier this year and that Endless Snooze Vacation was going to be bigger than Eternal Sunshine. :laugh:

Ariana still out streamed Miley in 2023, despite Miley releasing a whole album, and according to her fans, the biggest pop song of all time :rofl:

 

Smilers are just delusional and pressed that their fave never became the superstar Ariana is. 

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1 hour ago, Digitalism said:

What do you mean quite shocking?

All dance songs underperform in the us

which dance song? if we were talking about yes, and...? I would say it's dance and a bad song, but this one is phenomenal and sounds like a traditional pop/hac song.

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So the song is just 'at risk' of being recurrent. It's not recurrent yet and still you made a thread about it :coffee2:?

 

2 hours ago, Twizzy said:

Some of these replies are showing their age :lmao:because 20 weeks is not normal anymore in today's music climate, maybe in 2011. Even albums fifth singles spend 35 weeks at times (Get Into It Yuh and Feather, 37 weeks each).

20 weeks is normal in today's music climate when it's still the goalpost for songs before the recurrent rule strikes in. If the song is lingering at the 35-50 area and an album bomb happens, it's over for that song.

 

The examples you mentioned are from those girls biggest eras, they have no other fifth single in their discography pulling something like that :giraffe:

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40 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

It was and still is a global smash hit. Nothing went wrong.

 

How are you still getting brave after swearing that she was over earlier this year and that Endless Snooze Vacation was going to be bigger than Eternal Sunshine. :laugh:

Right, like we can bring up the album track streams from ES compared to ESV. Saturn Returns Interlude which is a 30 second spoken word interlude that Ariana does not appear on outstreamed 65% of ESV tracks. Never mind the other tracks that are obliterating ESV.  Love Miley but her fans keep setting her up and reminding us that Flowers is the only thing keeping her afloat commercially both globally and in the U.S. :rip:

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2 hours ago, thatsmydemi said:

The song feels much bigger than its chart run on Billboard suggests tbh, especially worldwide. 

That's the thing with her songs! A lot of her singles may not have a huge run on billboard, but has a huge culture impact. Sweetener wasn't on the charts for long or had insane sales, but still such an iconic era! :giraffe:

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It's a big hit, especially worldwide. 

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3 hours ago, State of Grace. said:

It was and still is a global smash hit. Nothing went wrong.

 

How are you still getting brave after swearing that she was over earlier this year and that Endless Snooze Vacation was going to be bigger than Eternal Sunshine. :laugh:

 

3 hours ago, Joey307 said:

Ariana still out streamed Miley in 2023, despite Miley releasing a whole album, and according to her fans, the biggest pop song of all time :rofl:

 

Smilers are just delusional and pressed that their fave never became the superstar Ariana is. 

Say thank you Weeknd's payola.
 

Weeks on chart:

 

Yes And? + WCBF = 36 weeks

Jaded + UTBY = 36 weeks 

 

This is without Flowers since y'all love to dismiss that and y'all swearing up and down that Godley "doesn't have a hit in decades" yet her "flops" are performing on the same level as Ariana's forgettable and fleeting #1s without the weeknd:coffee2:

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10 hours ago, Miley Cyrus said:

 

Say thank you Weeknd's payola.
 

Weeks on chart:

 

Yes And? + WCBF = 36 weeks

Jaded + UTBY = 36 weeks 

 

This is without Flowers since y'all love to dismiss that and y'all swearing up and down that Godley "doesn't have a hit in decades" yet her "flops" are performing on the same level as Ariana's forgettable and fleeting #1s without the weeknd:coffee2:

all your post does is prove how the hot 100 is not the biggest indicator of how big a song was becasue even a flop ariana single like 'the boy is mine' (279M) already outstreamed both UTBY and jaded (220M and 180M):deadbanana2:

 

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Yeah. What went wrong. It only went #1…

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It all seems a little...Wicked.

 

:suburban:

 

 

 

 

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23 weeks really isn't bad tbh 

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Yall are never satisfied. Before the ES era people thought #1 was completely out of her reach and she ended up getting not one but TWO new #1s.

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12 hours ago, Miley Cyrus said:

 

Say thank you Weeknd's payola.
 

Weeks on chart:

 

Yes And? + WCBF = 36 weeks

Jaded + UTBY = 36 weeks 

Say thank you Radio payola

 

Radio Songs
Yes And? + WCBF = 30 weeks
Jaded + UTBY = 35 weeks

 

Streaming Songs
Yes And? + WCBF = 24 weeks
Jaded + UTBY = 4 weeks 

 

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18 hours ago, Rabbit said:

The second most streamed female song of the year

Third now after BOAF but it's still a hit. The video really elevated the song and turned the era around.

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23 hours ago, Miley Cyrus said:

 

Say thank you Weeknd's payola.
 

Weeks on chart:

 

Yes And? + WCBF = 36 weeks

Jaded + UTBY = 36 weeks 

 

This is without Flowers since y'all love to dismiss that and y'all swearing up and down that Godley "doesn't have a hit in decades" yet her "flops" are performing on the same level as Ariana's forgettable and fleeting #1s without the weeknd:coffee2:

Say it with me 

 

Miley will never be Ariana

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On 8/21/2024 at 2:45 PM, Miley Cyrus said:

 

Say thank you Weeknd's payola.
 

Weeks on chart:

 

Yes And? + WCBF = 36 weeks

Jaded + UTBY = 36 weeks 

 

This is without Flowers since y'all love to dismiss that and y'all swearing up and down that Godley "doesn't have a hit in decades" yet her "flops" are performing on the same level as Ariana's forgettable and fleeting #1s without the weeknd:coffee2:

Jaded and UTBY only charted because radio kept shoving them. Yes And Is at 515m streams and WCBF is at 800m and still doing 3m daily. They're not on the same level commercially lol

 

 

23 weeks isn't bad but a bit weak during the streaming era. This era is definitely bigger than Positions WW which matters more. But yeah it's an underperformance in the US. 

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On 8/21/2024 at 4:21 PM, Pheromosa said:

How is 20+ weeks not enough? 

It is. ATRL has warped some brains.

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This user always feels like they belong in an mental asylum with some of their takes. Or they have some sad masochistic want to be dragged

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