liquiddiamonds Posted September 1 Posted September 1 (edited) 1 hour ago, starsailor said: Very well said, amore! I can't with people calling it a censorship when our Supreme Jury was trying to contact them for DAYS. It wasn't like Alexandre de Moraes waked up in a bad mood and decided to block Twitter lol. and Elon Musk not only ignored the contact but also fired everyone from Twitter Brasil thinking that, doing this, Twitter would be unreachable by brazilian laws. I really hope Brazil serious law applications serve as an example for Europe, Canada and every other country facing the same problems with Elon Musk' stupidity. Exactly. Musk is really taking advantage of people's naivety regarding Brazilian politics. Spoiler For the users from other countries: In 2018, conservatives won the legislative and executive seats. They thought they could govern only for themselves for their conservative dream state, but they didn't count on our Supreme Court upholding the constitution and limiting the governing power of Bolsonaro by countering a lot of his politics. That's when the right wing discourse changed from anti-Leftism/Lula to anti-democratic, since the bloggers that are now accused of spreading fake news on Twitter and other social media started to attack the court and the structures of democracy, demanding a coup d'Etat in the name of Bolsonaro with support from our Army to reset the Brazilian state. These manifestations became more and more common after the pandemic, especially during our presidential elections, when they were already accusing Lula of fraud, and intensified right after their loss. The conservatives have now only the majority of both legislative houses as of 2024. After the election, people aligned to these ideals organized in thousands to sit in front of barracks around the country, claiming for justice regarding the results and asking for the soldiers to honor their country and support a coup against Lula. This happened for days, ultimately culminating in the attack/invasion of government buildings that happened in Brasilia on January 8th 2023. The Court take this matter very seriously because their lives were threatened, their offices were destroyed and people really tried a coup, exposing that had they had military support it would've been successful. Further investigations have been showing that a lot of political actors were softly allowing for things to happen, supporting by way of omission. We shouldn't take these things lightly. Elon is trying to disguise what happened as a freedom of speech situation, but there's a huge difference between having a negative opinion on our courts and politicians, trashing them on social media and trying to pull a failed coup, creating fake news to harm their credibility and push the masses to the point of senseless revolting. What happened in January is rightfully a criminal offense in any democracy and Twitter was a platform that allowed for a lot of that discourse to go unchecked. Companies need to take responsibility of what they allow their users to comment and post on their platforms. I'm 1000% sure that had it been a leftist-communist coup against a democracy Elon Musk would've had 100% cooperated with the Brazilian government Alexandre is not the only judge on our court and they will all vote the ban tomorrow. The idea that he is governing Brazil is senseless when there's much happening in the legislative and Lula's cabinet Edited September 1 by liquiddiamonds 1 1
Jormungand Posted September 1 Posted September 1 So will atrl users stop posting links to Twitter posts now and start linking other social media sites like Threads or Bluesky? Not saying that meta is any better, but what other options are out there? It feels like every social media site eventually gets ruined because of investors, foreign states, and idiots like Elon. 3
réveuse Posted September 2 Posted September 2 On 8/30/2024 at 11:13 PM, Raver said: Anyone siding with Brazil in this Anyone siding with Elon Musk in this 5 7
réveuse Posted September 2 Posted September 2 On 8/31/2024 at 4:14 PM, Dera said: why would you try and sneak porn into the same breath as "right wing grifters and nazis"? sex workers are among the most persecuted, abused, scapegoated, ostracized, and demonized people by right wing movements. tumblr and twitter hosted the most active leftish communities of the 2010s (relative to instagram and facebook, for example) because they didn't censor erotic (and just generally sex-related) content, so these were safe places for trans and queer people, sexual violence survivors, sex workers, etc. to exist in public and discuss the things important to us without erasure. these groups are among the most "loyal"/obligate left wing constituencies, because right wingers would rather exterminate us. 🌽≠ Sexuality
VelvetCrush Posted September 2 Posted September 2 On 8/31/2024 at 6:04 PM, Patient Zero said: I'm all for censoring hate speech camouflaged as "free speech" Brazil did well, and more countries should follow I'm loving to joke about suffering and missing twitter, a lot of interactions with my friends consisted of sending memes from twitter and talking about it and I used twitter mostly following foreign accounts so migrating to BlueSky didn't really feel the same to me. But honestly, on the long run, it's for the best. X has been a cesspool of hate speech which has gotten worse recently. On the last days I had acess to twitter, I literally reported an account named "Racism Free" and they replied back saying nothing was done cuz they didn't do anything agaisnt the rules. Elon definetly wants to use X as a political tool against human rights so I wouldn't be sad if it was gone (or extremely regulated). 1
Renzo_ Posted September 3 Posted September 3 On 8/31/2024 at 2:17 PM, ohjulia said: The stupidity is outstanding. The amount of people that blindly support censorship tells the horrendous and scary future that awaits us. +1 Bureaucrats want to tell people exactly what to read and what to think.
Mr. Peanutbutter Posted September 4 Posted September 4 On 9/1/2024 at 2:22 PM, liquiddiamonds said: Some of y'all are so stupid. Censorship???? We have freedom of expression in Brazil. We can literally criticize anything and anyone, from politicians to celebrities; we have access to anything on the internet, from any country. We are basically allowed in every countries with very few visa restrictions. Piracy happens in high levels here exactly because our networks are not micromonitored by the government Twitter is one single social media; one single website. We haven't lost an iota of our rights because of it or Elon Musk. Just memes and porn. People literally entered our government buildings and destroyed them over fake news also spread on Twitter and spread things to undermine our democracy. We, brazilians, don't ******* care about them or their data. This will only fuel Bolsonaro's discourse for the conservatives in the coming September 7th (our independence day). They want to be persecuted so bad. But the truth is that they tried to stage a coup and they failed and the people involved need to serve their time for it. I'm happy we are being very serious about it, since we already overcame a right wing dictatorship in our history lol BTW We have free elections the comin weeks and they won't say a word when right wing candidates take over some of the major cities. That's how selective this whole lack of freedom of speech discourse works these days. Those people wanna paint us as a tyrannical country so bad just because they lost an election after almost ten years governing with underwhelming results Jantou 4 1
tiagol88 Posted September 4 Posted September 4 On 8/31/2024 at 4:13 AM, Raver said: Anyone siding with Brazil in this What do you mean siding? It's the law, lmao.
vipanonymous Posted September 4 Posted September 4 (edited) 20 hours ago, Mr. Peanutbutter said: Jantou morto que vc é brasileiro. Edited September 4 by vipanonymous 3
constantinople Posted September 4 Posted September 4 On 9/3/2024 at 5:21 PM, V$. said: wait until he realizes all the judges in the supreme court also agree with the Alexandre's decision 1
constantinople Posted September 4 Posted September 4 On 8/31/2024 at 12:13 AM, Raver said: Anyone siding with Brazil in this wasn't your country the one that banned Tik Tok because it belonged to a chinese company? make it make sense lol 5 1
Tiago Gomes Posted September 5 Posted September 5 15 hours ago, vipanonymous said: morto que vc é brasileiro. morto com você sendo brasileiro 1
Rosenda Posted September 5 Posted September 5 This is the best news ever. Bye spam. Maybe Brazilians can finally start applying for jobs and stop obsessing over American singers
Slap Posted September 5 Posted September 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rosenda said: This is the best news ever. Bye spam. Maybe Brazilians can finally start applying for jobs and stop obsessing over American singers You might need to start applying too because being a clown isn't a very stable job in this economy hun. Glad to see Elon is facing some consequences. Money can't buy your way out of everything Edited September 5 by Slap
Carry My Heart Posted September 26 Posted September 26 (edited) CNN: Elon Musk bows to pressure from Brazil's top court in a bid to reinstate X Quote After a blackout of more than three weeks, X appears ready to comply with court orders in Brazil to restore access to its 21 million users in the country and end a protracted fight between billionaire CEO Elon Musk and the country's highest court. Quote Lawyers for X informed Brazil's Supreme Court on Friday that it had named legal representation, according to Reuters, a key requirement for reinstating the social media platform in the major market. A day later, the court gave X an additional five days to file paperwork formalizing that representation. When X did come back online fleetingly, on September 18, the company said it was committed to working with the Brazilian government to make the site available again, in a dramatic shift in tone from just weeks earlier. Quote To be reinstated in Brazil, X needs to finalize its legal representation paperwork, pay a fine of approximately $1 million to account for the temporary return of service last week and provide proof that all accounts identified by the court had been blocked. Read the full article here Edited September 26 by Carry My Heart
Tiago Gomes Posted September 26 Posted September 26 well...i guess the bluesky era is over but i like my time of rest
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