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Alicia has always been a great album seller. Her music is even more R&B oriented than Beyonce, yet Europeans tend to buy Alicia's albums more. Her debut album was a much better seller than DIL outside the UK. As I Am managed to outsell IASF in most mainland European markets despite No One being the only big hit, while Beyoncé released 6-7 singles that era with a re-release. I was even shocked to see her Girls On Fire album outselling Self titled in many markets like France and Germany. Is there a reason why Europe seems to like Alicia more than Beyoncé's albums? 
 

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She's more authentic.

 

Dido, Adele, Norah Jones, Anastacia are all the same.

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Did she? Just quickly looked up Sasha Fierce vs AIA stats and Beyoncé seems to be bigger

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She had a great run, it's over now but great run nonetheless 

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16 minutes ago, VioletsandRoses said:

Alicia has always been a great album seller. Her music is even more R&B oriented than Beyonce, yet Europeans tend to buy Alicia's albums more. Her debut album was a much better seller than DIL outside the UK. As I Am managed to outsell IASF in most mainland European markets despite No One being the only big hit, while Beyoncé released 6-7 singles that era with a re-release. I was even shocked to see her Girls On Fire album outselling Self titled in many markets like France and Germany. Is there a reason why Europe seems to like Alicia more than Beyoncé's albums? 
 

You have a lot of time...it seems

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16 minutes ago, VioletsandRoses said:

Europeans tend to buy Alicia's albums more.

when was this?

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24 minutes ago, VioletsandRoses said:

Alicia has always been a great album seller

Where was she in the last decade tho :gaycat7:

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What this website seems to fail to realize is that there's an entire world (or worlds better put) outside of gay communities. 

 

Alicia had a crossover appeal, both generationally and musically that Beyoncé didn't seem to have in the beginning of her career.

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More Talent. :cm: 

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Can we have a link to how you can to this conclusion? I'm sure the last time anyone was checking for Alicia was 'Unthinkable'. 

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Can I see

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Because Fallin' and No One are the 21st century I Will Always Love You and My Heart Will Go On

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just checked and the countries where she apparently outsold has them both at the same certifications also IASF and self-titled stomp everywhere else in europe, slow monday huh 

 

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According to wikipedia, certified units in mainland Europe

- Keys no certification vs Cowboy Carter 10k certified in Denmark

- Alicia no certification vs Renaissance 212k certified in mainland Europe

- Here no certification vs Lemonade 220k certified in mainland Europe

- Girl on fire 225k certified in mainland Europe vs Self titled 410k

- The element of freedom 360k vs 4 300k 

- As I Am 680k vs I am Sasha Fierce 833k

- The Diary 565k vs B'Day 392,5 k

- Songs in a Mirror 1310k vs Dangerously in love 715 k

 

overal

2,780 vs 3,092 Mio

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You guys would be shocked just how local some of your faves are

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CM:

 

2,7m - DIL -------------------- 3,4m - Songs in A Minor

1,2m - B'Day ------------------2,2m - Diary

2,7m - I am Sasha Fierce ----- 1,5m - As I am

1,0m - 4 -----------------------1,8m - The Element

935k - Beyoncé ---------------660k - Girl on Fire

640k - Lemonade ------------- 60k - Here

= 9,175m -----------------------9,620m

 

U might have a point. Even Chartsmasters agrees. Unplugged adds another 500k for Alicia in Europe.

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Alicia Keys was one of the few American R&B artists that sold well in Europe. 

 

I think the type of artist plays a role in this, especially back in the 2000s. Alicia was the type of female R&B artist that straight men comfortable with publicly spending money on. The same could not be said for Beyoncé back in the 00s. Alicia was more "safe", if that makes any sense.

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Alicia had much bigger peaks in Europe it seems. That a 2010 album like The Element of Freedom sold over 1,8 million in Europe is extraordinary. People often claim that sales were dead back then. 

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Is she? I'm surprised if true.

 

SPS to date, idts though.

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4 hours ago, VioletsandRoses said:

Alicia has always been a great album seller. Her music is even more R&B oriented than Beyonce, yet Europeans tend to buy Alicia's albums more. Her debut album was a much better seller than DIL outside the UK. As I Am managed to outsell IASF in most mainland European markets despite No One being the only big hit, while Beyoncé released 6-7 singles that era with a re-release. I was even shocked to see her Girls On Fire album outselling Self titled in many markets like France and Germany. Is there a reason why Europe seems to like Alicia more than Beyoncé's albums? 
 

Europe love ballads, atrl think it's dance but that's only at certain periods. 

isn't bey's biggest Europe hit halo?

There's one of your answers, the others is bey was never as global as her peers but obviously she's still big WW

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5 hours ago, Nightingale said:

Did she? Just quickly looked up Sasha Fierce vs AIA stats and Beyoncé seems to be bigger

 

4 hours ago, Shinning said:

when was this?

 

4 hours ago, Johnny Jacobs said:

Where was she in the last decade tho :gaycat7:

 

3 hours ago, mons†er said:

Can we have a link to how you can to this conclusion? I'm sure the last time anyone was checking for Alicia was 'Unthinkable'. 

 

3 hours ago, LVP said:

Can I see

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Song In A Mirror-2.19 million 

The Diary Of Alicia Keys-1.6 million 

As I Am- 1.12 million 

The Elements of Alicia-820k

Girl On Fire- 420k (115k in France+125k in Germany)

 

DIL- 1.47 million 

B'day- 672k 

IASF- 1.08 million 

4-340k 

Self Titled- 458k (95k in Germany+115k in France) 

Again Beyoncé is bigger in the UK, but Alicia has sold more albums in continental Europe which is the topic of this thread. Numbers are from their respective articles on chartmasters. 

1 hour ago, Mr. Stratus said:

Europe love ballads, atrl think it's dance but that's only at certain periods. 

isn't bey's biggest Europe hit halo?

There's one of your answers, the others is bey was never as global as her peers but obviously she's still big WW

Yes. Her biggest seller is Halo in most countries. Her biggest chart hit is If I Were A Boy followed by the Shakira collab BL. Rihanna's biggest hit in Europe is also Diamonds. Same with Adele's discography. Even Hurt by Xtina is her biggest chart in many countries like France. 

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7 minutes ago, VioletsandRoses said:

 

 

 

 

Song In A Mirror-2.19 million 

The Diary Of Alicia Keys-1.6 million 

As I Am- 1.12 million 

The Elements of Alicia-820k

Girl On Fire- 420k (115k in France+125k in Germany)

 

DIL- 1.47 million 

B'day- 672k 

IASF- 1.08 million 

4-340k 

Self Titled- 458k (95k in Germany+115k in France) 

Again Beyoncé is bigger in the UK, but Alicia has sold more albums in continental Europe which is the topic of this thread. Numbers are from their respective articles on chartmasters. 

Yes. Her biggest seller is Halo in most countries. Her biggest chart hit is If I Were A Boy followed by the Shakira collab BL. Rihanna's biggest hit in Europe is also Diamonds. Same with Adele's discography. Even Hurt by Xtina is her biggest chart in many countries like France. 

Where does the list suddenly stop in 2013. Each of them has released 4-5 albums since then :gaycat2:

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Alicia was also a bigger seller domestically during her first 2 eras and yet their Europe totals are kinda similar... No big surprise here. She was a big force in the industry back then.

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She WAS a better album seller but even back then it really was not by a wide-margin outside of their 2nd and 4th albums.

 

Also, realistically 'Songs in A Minor' should be paired up with DC's 'Survivor' album instead of 'Dangerously In Love' as they were both released in 2001 when Soundscan was still king.

 

 

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girl who gives a f*ck about alicia keys in the year 2024

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