news Kamala denigrates anti-genocide protestors

[RedOne]

I agree that she should've been better prepared to handle something like this, especially since this is a sensitive issue right now and it will keep coming up and she knows it. She needs to have talking points and her solutions at the ready and handle the protestors better, definitely not like this.

 

But people saying that she is "over" and ready to drop her because of this is crazy. Trump really doesn't need to do anything, the left will eat its own clearing the path for him to win. Let's see how he will handle protests and protestors when he is president. Maybe she indeed should've ignored y'all's asses, picked Shapiro as a VP and secured PA like the mainstream media has been whining about. Because I am not sure that the keyboard warriors will close Twitter and come out and vote for her in November.

[Chemist]

a terrible look but she has shown to be capable of listening, so i hope that's the route she chooses

[Aethereal]

6 hours ago, Communion said:

 

Pro-Palestinian protestors are protesting the Biden-Harris admin as Biden and Harris are the current administration who are in full support of the Zionist regime that is currently doing things like delivering truck-fulls of bodies of civilians that get abducted and held in prisons for months, only to return them into the middle of destroyed city squares, in unmarked bags, leaving loved ones to look through the decaying remains and body parts of strangers in hopes of finding their son, cousin, brother, mother.

 

 

Those bodies are not of prisoners:

CAIRO/GAZA Aug 5 (Reuters) - Israel returned the bodies of more than 80 Palestinians killed in its military offensive in the Gaza Strip, as Israeli airstrikes killed at least 18 more people on Monday, the Palestinian Ministry of Health said.

 

However most or all should be civilians. 

 

EDIT: It is unknown whenever some could be prisoners said by the Palestinian authorities. 

Edited August 8 by Aethereal

[GardenPanty]

No American politician is bringing peace to the middle east. They're literally allies with Israel  

 

I wholeheartedly believe that Palestine needs our support more than anything and it's sad that this is the stance politicians take. But this is our reality. 

[TaggedGalaxy]

Her response wasn't ideal but she is human and was put on the spot. Hopefully next time she can handle it better because there will be a next time.

 

I would love her for to continue to extend an olive branch to these groups, keep meeting with them, hear them and let them push her to making actual change when she is president in exchange for their votes and hold her accountable after she is elected.

 

The protestors also need to have a realistic expectation of what she can do currently. All she has a rhetoric, she doesn't have the power to lead a cease fire or arms embargo and she is in an awkward position where she is still part of Biden's cabinet and walks a fine line with her rhetoric.

 

At the end of the day Trump cannot win, his close ties to BibI and his bigotry will put Palestine in even more danger. Trump and BibI will level Palestine and Israel will expand. Jared Kushner who is also friends with BibI has even made comments about building waterfront properties in Palestine. It's very clear what Trump and his allies get out of this war and what they will do with their buddy's newly claimed land. Everything Trump does is for his own gain.

[Luckitty]

1 hour ago, bjorn said:

So you hope Trump wins then? If she loses, Trump wins. And do you know what will happen to women's rights, LBGTQ rights, minorities and the poor in America? 
 

I guess you're fine with all those changes, as long as that woman doesn't win? Huh? 

Democrats said the same thing in 2016 and nothing changed 

 

i'm middle eastern so we're still getting bombed with either presidents, but at least if trump bombs us democrats will pretend to care, and we will finally see them opposing genocide instead of committing it

[Luckitty]

12 minutes ago, TaggedGalaxy said:

Trump and BibI will level Palestine and Israel will expand.

this already happened under biden  

[bjorn]

6 minutes ago, Luckitty said:

Democrats said the same thing in 2016 and nothing changed 

 

i'm middle eastern so we're still getting bombed with either presidents, but at least if trump bombs us democrats will pretend to care, and we will finally see them opposing genocide instead of committing it

Weird take 

[Aethereal]

 What percentage of 40,000 are militants? Israel reported months ago that 14,000 of 30,000 are Hamas militants. (very likely a biased number on their side)

 

Some 40,000-50,000 Ukrainian soldiers were killed since the 2022 war and they are not included among the victims of war.

 

25,000-30,000 civilians murdered is still bad enough to call for a ceasefire so I don't understand what's the point.

Edited August 8 by Aethereal

[G.U.Y. Gaga]

5 hours ago, Cesar said:

The way it took the libs in this thread are mad that they decided to protest about an active genocide at a rally for the potential future president.

 

Do you guys not realize how change is made? It isn't by sitting in ur house, waiting for november to come & complaining why didn't they do it to Trumps rally instead. Literally no MAJOR change in this country has been done by voting.

 

These people have the real balls to go out there to stand up for whats right. While all it took for you to give in to the establishment was to switch the presidental candidate to a POC woman. I guess facism isn't so bad, if a POC is gonna help lead us closer to it!

Their. Point. Is. Across. 
 

god you people are idiots and should never take office 

[Communion]

12 minutes ago, G.U.Y. Gaga said:

Their. Point. Is. Across. 

So when is she announcing her policy in office will be to follow existing US law and install an arms embargo on Israel?

 

If the demands are clear. And people's feelings are clear. Yet no actual material action is done and no actual policy promise has been made. Wouldn't then one assume Harris fully endorses the current status quo that sees Palestinians facing genocide, systematic rape, the largest scale of pediatric amputees in a war zone in decades, etc.?

 

Telling people they're loud while nothing changes just implicates those being yelled at?

[RedOne]

Yes, people should protest and make their demands, but they should also vote for Kamala once the election comes and then bully her into doing the right thing once she is president. Trump has enough crazies following him to win the electoral collage. Not voting for her, will hand Trump the election which will doom minorities AND Palestinians in Gaza. And do y'all think Trump will allow such protests once he is president? They will be dealt with quickness. VOTE and then we can bully the democrats to do the right thing.

[DAP]

She sure showed them. How dare they envision a better world for society. 

[State of Grace.]

She is just another disgusting genocidal monster. But she's ~funny or whatever so yas coconuts!

 

The so called progressive Libs here making us think she's "potentially good for Palestinians!!!" are such clowns 

[toxicgenie]

It wasn't the time or place. 

 

She is the first Black woman running an uphill battle to get elected.

 

These activists have yet to interrupt Trump or Vance this election, yet they do on one of Harris' first rallies? 

 

[GardenPanty]

12 minutes ago, toxicgenie said:

These activists have yet to interrupt Trump or Vance this election, yet they do on one of Harris' first rallies? 

They would probably be hate crimed 

[toxicgenie]

2 hours ago, GardenPanty said:

They would probably be hate crimed 

They would get more pushback, but they may also gain more support from the public. 

 

Imagine if during the Civil Rights Movement, the civil rights activists only protested in safe spaces like NY or San Francisco, would they have been as successful? I highly doubt it. protesting means stepping outside safe spaces and raising awareness everywhere.

Edited August 8 by toxicgenie

[Onyxmage]

8 hours ago, Luckitty said:

Democrats said the same thing in 2016 and nothing changed 

 

i'm middle eastern so we're still getting bombed with either presidents, but at least if trump bombs us democrats will pretend to care, and we will finally see them opposing genocide instead of committing it

Now wait just a damn minute. I knew yall were unhinged but this is just taking it a step too far.  

[Mr. Mendes]

Look, I won't say she couldn't have handled it a little better because she could have. But you've also go to realize that she was put in a no-win situation here. 

 

If she didn't say anything to them at all, then she was going to take heat from the camp that will twist it into her being antisemitic and bringing in pro-Hamas rhetoric into her platform. If she responds, then she was (and is) going to take heat from those who feel she's trying to silence those who're criticizing Israel. 

 

There was no right answer here. 

 

You can look back through my post history here and find that I have been adamantly pro-Palestine since this whole conversation began. I still am. Always will be. I don't claim to believe that Kamala's record of messaging on the subject is perfect, nor am I under any delusions that she's suddenly going to get into the White House and solve the whole thing. 

 

But what I am quite sure of is that of the two people running for president, she is the one whom the Palestinians actually have some hope under. The one who does support a ceasefire. The one who isn't going to tell Israel to, quote, "finish the job."

 

I understand the point the protestors here wanted to make. I do. I get it. I have attended 5 pro-Palestine protests myself.

 

But we've got to pick our battles, and at the moment the battle for Palestine's future rests in the hands of who is in control of the one nation in the world Israel needs permission from to do what they really want to do. No matter what someone may tell you, the two options on this are not the same. They're just not. 

 

I am all for applying pressure to a politician to act more decisively and within the lines of the desires and beliefs of their constituents but politics is about playing smart and making moves when those moves actually stand to get you what you want. This was counterproductive to these protestor's goal, as noble and correct as that goal is.

 

 We have to start playing the long game instead of only thinking about right here right now. We have to start thinking about 3, 4, 5, 6+ months from now. The choices we make right now define what Palestine looks like then. 

[Cesar]

 

[Hephaestus]

8 hours ago, Mr. Mendes said:

I am all for applying pressure to a politician to act more decisively and within the lines of the desires and beliefs of their constituents but politics is about playing smart and making moves when those moves actually stand to get you what you want. This was counterproductive to these protestor's goal, as noble and correct as that goal is.

 

We have to start playing the long game instead of only thinking about right here right now. We have to start thinking about 3, 4, 5, 6+ months from now. The choices we make right now define what Palestine looks like then.

Louder, please 

[Meev]

One thing I will say, is that the current refugee crisis in Europe is largely due to the continuous attacks by Israel on Middle Eastern countries like Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Palestine etc. I really don't understand how the EU has not intervened in any of the conflicts. Israel's leading trade partners are European countries, doing a trade embargo on Israel by the EU will resolve the conflicts pretty quickly.

[Embustera]

Indians are usually pro Israel 

[Bosque]

2 hours ago, Meev said:

One thing I will say, is that the current refugee crisis in Europe is largely due to the continuous attacks by Israel on Middle Eastern countries like Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Palestine etc. I really don't understand how the EU has not intervened in any of the conflicts. Israel's leading trade partners are European countries, doing a trade embargo on Israel by the EU will resolve the conflicts pretty quickly.

What? Israel and Jordan have had a peace treaty for decades and no attacks have been made by either country against the other. Jordan provided military support to Israel when Iran bombed them earlier this year and even asked France to intervene during the bombing. 

Edited August 9 by Bosque

[toxicgenie]

2 hours ago, Embustera said:

Indians are usually pro Israel 

Great job at showing your true colors by spreading MAGA talking points.