news Kamala denigrates anti-genocide protestors

[beautiful player]

Oh, she's over. She just handed the victory to the far right with that abysmal response.

[JustHoran]

Isn't it funny how these protesters never protest at Trump's rallys? Hmm.

[Juánny]

Well if they continue to speak over her while she’s trying to get though a speech at her own campaign rally, after she acknowledged them politely the first few times, she had to be more stern. It’s not a good look for a presidential candidate to let a crowd walk all over her. This was not a Palestine March, and they have a right to protest but do so respectfully and at your own organized event where people are there for your cause / it is your time to speak. Protesting at a rally to the point where you are completely derailing the event makes it a counter-protest to her election campaign. Point blank.
 

Just because she’s telling some folks to stop speaking over at her own rally her doesn’t mean she’s against what they are protesting over. I honestly feel her response given the circumstances was not that bad and being blown way out of proportion. Yes, they have every right to be there but there’s a decorum, a time and a place and this wasn’t it. She was not wrong—to continue to talk over her and force her into this situation might have indeed knocked some points away off of her and more advantage to Trump.

 

 

 

 

[James_Dean]

Can't wait to see how they protest at the Trump rally 

[bjorn]

39 minutes ago, Onyxmage said:

Hours, it took hours for ATRLs far left to turn on her.  You people are insane.  

Far left needs a reality check. It's either TRUMP or her. No vote for Kamala is A VOTE for Trump. He will otherwise win and you have to live with him for 4 more years. Good luck miss americans 

[Bosque]

It's giving 2016 Hilary. She needs to start talking about her plans and not just why Trump is bad 

[Bears01]

Just now, Bosque said:

It's giving 2016 Hilary. She needs to start talking about her plans and not just why Trump is bad 

She is far more charismatic than Hillary ever was. She does need to start laying out policies and platforms. 

[Bosque]

Just now, Bears01 said:

She is far more charismatic than Hillary ever was.

That is debatable. She is less of a suit and has a rather unique demeanor that appeals to some people but also puts some people off, as has been evident since 2020. I'm not saying this to criticize her but her team needs to be aware of her strengths and weaknesses and play to them 

[Sannie]

1 hour ago, CroNich said:

I wonder if she will actually fight for the rights of Palestinians and a Palestinian statehood once elected, I think that will be the true test. I can understand why she is so restricted in what she can say right now but I do have a feeling it will just be the same old status quo with Isreal/The Middle East no matter who is running the country.

Well firstly, if she wins, she'll be the President of the USA so her main job is to fight for the rights of the USA.  After that she can hopefully help put a stop to the genocidal maniacs controlling Israel.

 

 

5 minutes ago, Bosque said:

It's giving 2016 Hilary. She needs to start talking about her plans and not just why Trump is bad 

90% of her speech has nothing to do with Trump.

Edited August 8 by Sannie

[Bosque]

3 minutes ago, Sannie said:

 

90% of her speech has nothing to do with Trump.

That is irrelevant as maybe a few thousand people will see her speech in its entirety, while millions will see her reaction to the protestors out of context. It's not fair but unless you're Donald Trump whose fanboys will forgive literally anything, a short clip can be enough to lose you a lot of voters. Her response to those people was not politically smart, but of course it's difficult to come up with a perfect answer on the spot every time. 

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[Onyxmage]

7 minutes ago, bjorn said:

Far left needs a reality check. It's either TRUMP or her. No vote for Kamala is A VOTE for Trump. He will otherwise win and you have to live with him for 4 more years. Good luck miss americans 

They know and they dont care but like I said im really surprised it took them this long to turn on her. Im sure they will spend the next 4 weeks analyzing how this one small incident will sink her campaign when everyone will have forgotten about it by tomorrow.  

[Cesar]

The way it took the libs in this thread are mad that they decided to protest about an active genocide at a rally for the potential future president.

 

Do you guys not realize how change is made? It isn't by sitting in ur house, waiting for november to come & complaining why didn't they do it to Trumps rally instead. Literally no MAJOR change in this country has been done by voting.

 

These people have the real balls to go out there to stand up for whats right. While all it took for you to give in to the establishment was to switch the presidental candidate to a POC woman. I guess facism isn't so bad, if a POC is gonna help lead us closer to it!

[Sergi91]

Of course Nina bonina had to give her 2 cents for a hit tweet. 
 

Can't wait to see them protest at the next Trump rally…. Oh wait they won't. 

[IBeMe]

I just remembered that she did exactly this not too long ago if I rmeember correctly...didnt she have some pro palestine protestors and she shut them down basically the exact same way with her people chanting "4 more years" or something like that? idk....I dont like the tone of this approach to people no matter how poor the timing and place is for them to do that....it's just telling people who care so much about human life and likely have family that's being killed right now to just wait and suck it up etc.. isn't a good look but i also recognize that them protesting her at her own rally is counterporductive...ugh

 

[Luckitty]

I hope she loses

[Illyboy]

2 hours ago, FOCK said:

Good luck with that approach, it worked so well for Clinton. 

Okay but "Introducing the Girlboss Genocide" is a funny jab 

[Illyboy]

1 hour ago, Communion said:

Pro-Palestinian protestors are protesting the Biden-Harris admin as Biden and Harris are the current administration who are in full support of the Zionist regime that is currently doing things like delivering truck-fulls of bodies of civilians that get abducted and held in prisons for months, only to return them into the middle of destroyed city squares, in unmarked bags, leaving loved ones to look through the decaying remains and body parts of strangers in hopes of finding their son, cousin, brother, mother.

 

Or running a torture camp - where 95% of people are civilians - where we have literal leaked documented video evidence of IDF soldiers performing gang rape on prisoners, injuring them almost to death. Where members of Israel's current leading party have taken to the Knesset to argue the usage of rape as a torture tactic should be made systematic. 

 

holy ******* **** 

yeah nah if America doesn't do anything about this they are just as evil because they bystand it.

[FOCK]

29 minutes ago, Sergi91 said:

Of course Nina bonina had to give her 2 cents for a hit tweet. 

Y'all are way too casual with your racism. Maybe rethink this one. 
 

No one has "turned" on Kamala. Not everyone abandoned their sensibilities and policy aspirations just because of some brat memes. Kamala has never been a popular candidate & has not democratically earned her nomination. 
 

She wants the power to make change, that's wonderful. That's hopeful. Now explain how you plan to use it. Explain how you plan to wield that power you're asking for. Rather than scoffing at those with genuine concerns, who are ONLY THERE PROTESTING because you are yet to address the matter in any meaningful way. She could have these very same people cheering & advocating for her with the same vigour in which they protest.

 

The reality is, she's prepared to give the issue just enough lip service to hopefully subdue & avoid the conversation & her response demonstrates she doesn't feel she needs them. It's entitlement. 
 

 

 

[Almighty Gaga]

She was probably kissing Netenyahu's feet last week, it's crazy that they thought they'd get a different reaction than this.

[KatyPrismSpirit]

I understand that this protest was hindering her speech but this is not a good optic at all for Kamala. Pro-Palestinians don't want "Donald Trump to win." Thats simply an outrageous statement from her.

 

They want the US to stop bombing Gazans alongside Israel, a genocide YOU have co-signed. This whole "Yeah I'm endorsing a genocide but Donald is worse so what's it going to be?" is such a stupid ad hominem fallacy that needs to be put to an end. ******* address the protesters concerns or shut up.

[Illuminati]

Kamala stops ijboling once and the usuals here are preparing to revenge-vote for Trump.

 

It was a bad response but I think it comes from being judged for the past 4 years for not caring about the average American, as they always feel they have it worst. So Kamala (and Tim) are trying to hammer in what she has to offer to regular people living in the US.

 

I imagine the debates will be a place to discuss foreign policy.

[KatyPrismSpirit]

2 hours ago, Juánny said:

Well if they continue to speak over her while she's trying to get though a speech at her own campaign rally, after she acknowledged them politely the first few times, she had to be more stern. It's not a good look for a presidential candidate to let a crowd walk all over her. This was not a Palestine March, and they have a right to protest but do so respectfully and at your own organized event where people are there for your cause / it is your time to speak. Protesting at a rally to the point where you are completely derailing the event makes it a counter-protest to her election campaign. Point blank.
 

Just because she's telling some folks to stop speaking over at her own rally her doesn't mean she's against what they are protesting over. I honestly feel her response given the circumstances was not that bad and being blown way out of proportion. Yes, they have every right to be there but there's a decorum, a time and a place and this wasn't it. She was not wrong—to continue to talk over her and force her into this situation might have indeed knocked some points away off of her and more advantage to Trump.

I agree with some points you made.

 

But just because it was at her own rally doesn't justify the fact she has never addressed this entire situation in a respectable or meaningful way whatsoever. People demand answers now. It's urgent. Like you said, this situation might make Democrats not want to support her as most Democratic voters are pro-Palestine.

 

Her speaking over protesters does indeed not mean she's against what they protest for. However, her tone of shutting these protesters down and making them look like they "want Trump to win" simply for advocating for Palestinians is a very poor response to address their concerns. What does she truly even mean by that if you think about it? "If you want Trump to win, talk about the genocide the Democratic party is enabling. Otherwise, I'm speaking. But I'm still gonna enable that genocide." ???

 

It's manipulative and rude to use this type of language. She could've just escorted them out instead of telling them that they "want Trump to win". It's a bad look. Kamala needs to be more careful with how she treats this conflict. 

[bjorn]

3 hours ago, Luckitty said:

I hope she loses

So you hope Trump wins then? If she loses, Trump wins. And do you know what will happen to women's rights, LBGTQ rights, minorities and the poor in America? 
 

I guess you're fine with all those changes, as long as that woman doesn't win? Huh? 

[jadeabove]

I think it's in her best interest to find a better way to address the protestors.

 

I think Kamala and Walz have what it takes to be the next ticket elected. I do think that she has a different position to Biden when it comes to the genocide taking place in Palestine, but I do believe it's in her best interest to lay out the work while being a Vice-President and make Biden understand that this is an essential issue to the ticket this year. Biden is completely disconnected with his Zionist views. I really really want Kamala to win, but I do think she has to learn how to manage this publically because the noise is about to get louder; we are about to reach 12 months of this conflict and these protestors want to highlight the hypocrisy of America. There's an absolute need to address this in a better way, and I think everyone has become super sensitive on the subject; regardless of where you stand on this issue. 

 

I feel slightly turned off when I see these kind of responses to protestors.

 

I do believe the problem is that America's economy relies mostly on the military-industrial complex, so the idea of promoting democracy as its strong pillar only to sell weapons meant to kill children and eradicate population is very counterproductive. Not only that, but it's past has come to haunt it more than ever, and the situation in Palestine really put a highlight on the Israeli-American relations and the history behind forming Israel and it's devastating consequences for the region. All of this to say, that a weapon embargo has serious consequences on not only Israel, who may indeed be put at risk once they will no longer have the weapon to defend itself, but America's economy too. I think to fix the situation in the Middle East, it will require an incredible, unique approach that will be an important exercice and display of diplomacy. I don't even know if it's possible to do this Netanyahu in power; in fact, I don't believe that is possible at all. A new leader is required an Israel; one that will not divide the population, and will actually rally the Middle East to finding a solution. That leader must be open to exchanges and put the interests of the entire region forward. Netanyahu is an agent of chaos that will use every tricks in the book to stall negotiations, and to make this entire peace prospect impossible. 

 

I think a weapon embargo has a risk of also creating a broader conflict with time, as it signifies that Israel won't have the capacity of defending itself. They went around stepping on everyone's tail in the region; removing their weapons is just going to subject them to an incredible amount of harm, as I do believe that a retribution would be expected - it's probably part of their plan too, to keep this need for weapons high as it would inevitably put them in a horrible situation. We can sit here and say that it is warranted, but this to me, just leads to the same cycle of impossible violence that we have seen with a never possible solution. I just want this to be ******* done and have the culprits of this government trialed and jailed forever. 

 

All in all, the US should work at getting Netanyahu to get the **** out of his seating. Have someone take the position that is appreciated in the entire region and that will work actively at facilitating communications, and that puts the interest of the entire region, including Israelis forward (this could prove difficult as we have seen how radicalized the population is). Heck, Netanyahu is hated by his own people.

Edited August 8 by jadeabove

[Musicmajor]

Meanwhile, Trump is hosting benjamin netanyahu and other far right extremist but please, by all means protest the one candidate who is 100 times better on literally every policy and that would make your lives better, not worse. She already expressed the need for a cease fire, ignored benjamin netanyahu when he came to give his speech and picked a progressive VP. ALL signaling she will be better than Joe Biden in virtually every way. Protesters need to realize she is STILL VP to a Zionist president who loves Israel and has his own policies. She has to toe the line carefully. Could she have shown more empathy? Sure. But at the same time, protesters need to think long-term and understand the inner workings of running her own campaign with her own ideas and supporting Biden's. Anyway you cut it, these protests at her own rally's are not going to help the cause in anyways. Also, apparently, she spoke with the people prior to the stump speech, and they still decided to do this so idfk.