Popular Post suburbannature Posted August 8 Popular Post Posted August 8 the misrepresentation of what actually happened for a hit thread. She met with them beforehand, first acknowledged their interruptions with an "I hear you" or two, politely asked them not to interrupt when she was speaking, and then said that after several interruptions. These tweets are taking it out of context to make it appear as though that was her sole response to the protestors. 5 57 1
Popular Post DevilsRollTheDice Posted August 8 Popular Post Posted August 8 Striking how these protesters have not once disrupted a Trump campaign event. 15 19 5
Sheep Posted August 8 Posted August 8 (edited) America's momala has had enough of our bickering and if we don't eat our full serving of unspeakably horrific pointless human death and suffering we won't get dessert! Edited August 8 by Sheep 2 1
Communion Posted August 8 Posted August 8 (edited) 14 minutes ago, suburbannature said: She met with them beforehand This isn't accurate The people in the crowd are from Palestinian Youth Movement (@palyouthmvmt) who organized their own protest. The protest was organized in part because Harris did not arrange any meetings with organizers beforehand. 2 leading members of the Uncommitted movement ended up trying to speak to her in the welcome line and see if they could get her attention that way (her press person reported she was open with a formal meeting with them after their interaction in line but no details have been confirmed). Edited August 8 by Communion 4 5
Joey307 Posted August 8 Posted August 8 Israel is an American ally and it's been that way for quite awhile so I seriously have to wonder what these people think they're accomplishing 1 8
Popular Post Communion Posted August 8 Popular Post Posted August 8 5 minutes ago, DevilsRollTheDice said: Striking how these protesters have not once disrupted a Trump campaign event. ? 4 11
Princess Aurora Posted August 8 Posted August 8 9 minutes ago, DevilsRollTheDice said: Striking how these protesters have not once disrupted a Trump campaign event. This
CroNich Posted August 8 Posted August 8 (edited) I wonder if she will actually fight for the rights of Palestinians and a Palestinian statehood once elected, I think that will be the true test. I can understand why she is so restricted in what she can say right now but I do have a feeling it will just be the same old status quo with Isreal/The Middle East no matter who is running the country. Edited August 8 by CroNich 3
Orsay Posted August 8 Posted August 8 (edited) 6 minutes ago, CroNich said: I wonder if she will actually fight for the rights of Palestinians and a Palestinian statehood once elected, I think that will be the true test. I can understand why she is so restricted in what she can say right now but I do have a feeling it will just be the same old status quo with Isreal/The Middle East no matter who is running the country. It will take decades (or at least multiple presidential cycles) of change for any meaningful shift in US policy toward Israel to be enacted. And obviously the people of Palestine don't have decades to wait. I'm not saying that to absolve Kamala or anyone, but it's the current reality Edited August 8 by Orsay 2
DevilsRollTheDice Posted August 8 Posted August 8 11 minutes ago, Communion said: ? So none in the last four years nor during this election cycle? Got it 5 3
Communion Posted August 8 Posted August 8 Just now, DevilsRollTheDice said: So none in the last four years ...who became president after 2020? 5
DevilsRollTheDice Posted August 8 Posted August 8 2 minutes ago, Communion said: ...who became president after 2020? And who is running for President now with a solid chance of winning with a much worse record on Palestine? Who moved the American embassy to Jerusalem and who has openly campaigned on his support of the current Israeli government? But no, let's do our best to ensure he's elected again instead of the candidate who has openly called for a ceasefire for months and is clearly the better option if you actually care about protecting people in Gaza. 15 3
Communion Posted August 8 Posted August 8 (edited) 13 minutes ago, DevilsRollTheDice said: with a much worse record on Palestine? I genuinely don't know how to reconcile with the lack of humanity posts like this ultimately show for Palestinians. You're not worried over the material interests of Palestinians facing a genocide. You're worried they'll become a political inconvenience to your own politician goals as a citizen within the imperial core and an American. Pro-Palestinian protestors are protesting the Biden-Harris admin as Biden and Harris are the current administration who are in full support of the Zionist regime that is currently doing things like delivering truck-fulls of bodies of civilians that get abducted and held in prisons for months, only to return them into the middle of destroyed city squares, in unmarked bags, leaving loved ones to look through the decaying remains and body parts of strangers in hopes of finding their son, cousin, brother, mother. Or running a torture camp - where 95% of people are civilians - where we have literal leaked documented video evidence of IDF soldiers performing gang rape on prisoners, injuring them almost to death. Where members of Israel's current leading party have taken to the Knesset to argue the usage of rape as a torture tactic should be made systematic. At what point do you take accountability for materially supporting a ticket - any ticket - that green-lights and co-signs the above? By all means, vote for whoever you feel will make your life better - voting IS transactional - but the almost sociopathic gaslighting by a very specific brand of American to somehow frame one's self as inconvenienced by the people the US are as-guilty-as-Israelis in genociding is obscene. Essentially just be truthful for once. Live in the conviction that your immediate needs *for you* come before any harm the nation you're a citizen of perpetuates outward. At least let the narrative of reality be crystal clear instead of this posturing of sending empathy instead of ending arms sales. Edited August 8 by Communion 5 8
bad guy Posted August 8 Posted August 8 Also to those with the "they never protest Trump" complaints. These are leftists not Trump's constituents. Therefore they're going to protest their own party who is supposed to represent their values. This is common sense no? 10 5 7
Onyxmage Posted August 8 Posted August 8 Hours, it took hours for ATRLs far left to turn on her. You people are insane. 2 1 1 5
FOCK Posted August 8 Author Posted August 8 1 hour ago, suburbannature said: the misrepresentation of what actually happened for a hit thread. I'm exceedingly concerned that my grandmother & extended family in Lebanon may be murdered if this destruction continues unchecked under her watch. That's a real fear of mine, that I have to carry. As do many of the people protesting. She has offered no assurances on the matter. That's the only "hit" I'm concerned about. The one that may possibly land on my family's home. So forgive me if I don't have a tolerance for this bs charade. She knew they were there. She understands what the concerns are. Address them. Verbalise your policy and plan. Explain how it differentiates from the alternative. Vilifying those calling for an end to genocide & further incitement, is a choice… That she has made. As we all make choices... In the context of all that in which we make choices & all the choices that were made before us… 14
IBeMe Posted August 8 Posted August 8 (edited) I just recently got coconut pilled. I took my time with her because of her plain jane stance on Gaza and stuff so I am not some crazy Kamala centrist stan BUT the protestors were committed to simply interupting her the whole time which would imapct her ability to really speak to the 50k people who were there to see her. I will say I HATED the approach she chose. Speaking down on people who care and are passionate for human life will NEVER be a good look but I will say to the protestors to please wait it out a bit. She just chose Tim Walz partly because of Josh Shapiro's stance on Gaza and Palestine in general and knowing it would split the dem party and alienate the progressives of the party so she was willing to concede to SOME extent and she provided an olive branch by doing that to SOME extent so lets wait a tiny bit to REALLY see what her policy about this will be like. She may surprise us tbh...I know I shouldnt hold my breath because she is kinda the typical centrist type of person but idk...I wonder if she may just surprise us Edited August 8 by IBeMe 4
GraceRandolph Posted August 8 Posted August 8 46 minutes ago, Orsay said: It will take decades (or at least multiple presidential cycles) of change for any meaningful shift in US policy toward Israel to be enacted. And obviously the people of Palestine don't have decades to wait. I'm not saying that to absolve Kamala or anyone, but it's the current reality Why? If Kamala is elected she can definitely be a force for change and select cabinet members who are better on the issue, and push the Overton window.
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