cloudbusting Posted August 4 Posted August 4 Carly's personality is way more lowkey, very much wine mom vibes which makes cultivating the kind of fanbase Charli has difficult. The quality of the material is there imo (everyone whining about her losing her touch clearly hasn't listened to The Loveliest Time), but she herself lacks that IT factor. That's not a drag btw - she clearly seems more than happy with her current level of success because she's able to tour and create music as she pleases without people being weird and invasive. Ultimately they're just very different artists finding a way to thrive in their respective lanes while remaining authentic to themselves which is really cool to see 3
skankle Posted August 4 Posted August 4 Lemme just copy and paste what I wrote on last month's iteration of this thread: I don't think people in this thread like, get Carly. Charli is deeply invested in The Pop Star as a whole cultural institution in a way that Carly has never been and that's not an insult to either of them. Carly is a musician who happens to make pop music and the constructions around that aren't a priority for her - so no, she's not going to hustle to get on the Barbie soundtrack or reinvent her public image or stretch to make herself relevant to Gen Z. She has a dedicated fan base that buys her albums and fills up her shows in decent size venues which allows her to make the music she wants to make and tour the places she wants to tour. She's not chasing the ever-changing and nebulous goal of Cultural Relevance like Charli is and so she's not going to have this drive to remodel and repackage herself to appeal to an shifting and expanding audience. Also saying Charli beats Carly lyrically is beyond delusion, come on 8
Archetype Posted August 4 Posted August 4 (edited) Charli has been one of the hardest working pop artists over the past 10 years. She consistently released music, experimented with new sounds, did countless collabs no matter how random they appeared, and found so many sponsors and partners to fund her projects. Carly is wonderful but she clearly is not about that life, she doesn't want that for herself and that is going to limit her from more exposure and popularity. Edited August 4 by Archetype 5
Europe Posted August 6 Posted August 6 Charly is more try-hard while Carly seems satisfied with her modest success.
Khal Posted August 6 Posted August 6 "She makes bad music", but it's the deafness inducing, noisy, FOMO music by the other one that's supposed to be good? Bffr Like someone side, Charli has been trying from the start to have a breakthrough, which is why she's just always been there in the background, releasing everything, attending events and mixing with the right people. Carly seems not to care for that after CMM.
Cain Posted August 6 Posted August 6 Charli is way more involved in the pop landscape as a whole; she wrote big songs for other artists, helped pioneer an entire subgenre on pop, is entrenched in the LA circle of powerful people, pushes the boundaries of pop music and keeps experimenting (whether with the actual music or the way it's made like with HIFN) and gets rightfully acclaimed for it She's been hustling for over a decade now and actually WANTS the mainstream success, as seen by the marketing behind Brat None of that applies to Carly, who just seems to want to make cute pop albums and bounce 3 1
Mighty Oaks Posted August 6 Posted August 6 Does she need the success when she has the superior discography? Charli and the Popper's Factory could never. 1
Cain Posted August 6 Posted August 6 1 minute ago, Khal said: "She makes bad music", but it's the deafness inducing, noisy, FOMO music by the other one that's supposed to be good? Bffr 1 minute ago, Mighty Oaks said: Does she need the success when she has the superior discography? Charli and the Popper's Factory could never. Carly makes basic synthpop songs like it's cute but to suggest her music is of some superior quality just because of the poptimist advantage Emotion got on its Metacritic score is laughable and yes you can quote me with the Dua Lipa avi 1 3 1
Mighty Oaks Posted August 6 Posted August 6 1 minute ago, Khal said: "She makes bad music", but it's the deafness inducing, noisy, FOMO music by the other one that's supposed to be good? Bffr A few weeks ago I had really bad constipation and after listening to Brat for the first time I had instant diarrhoea. Coincidence? I think not!
Mighty Oaks Posted August 6 Posted August 6 1 minute ago, Cain said: Carly makes basic synthpop songs like it's cute but to suggest her music is of some superior quality just because of the poptimist advantage Emotion got on its Metacritic score is laughable and yes you can quote me with the Dua Lipa avi And Charli makes unlistenable, garage band garbage. Literally auto-tuned queefs layered on top of pots and pans. She has no artistic integrity and just releases noise for the cocaine gays who think they can find deeper meanings in her so-called art. And where did I bring up Metacritic? If I cared about critical reviews I would abuse my ears and become a Charli stan, but I choose to be on the right side of history. 1 3
Daddy Posted August 6 Posted August 6 She doesn't have the team, connections and wishes Charli has. I think compared to Charli, Carly is extremely happy with her current career. 1
Reginald Posted August 6 Posted August 6 I know this is petty, but I put a big portion of the blame on Taylor, for releasing Midnights the same day as Loneliest Time. Carly didn't stand a chance, and being overshadowed like that is hard to come back from.
Dolce Vita Posted August 6 Posted August 6 (edited) i feel like carly makes music for the 30 y/o gays with short curly mullets that go to boozy brunch in soho every weekend. she's content within her niche and doesn't have the aspirations charli has. Edited August 6 by Dolce Vita 1 1
Mighty Oaks Posted August 6 Posted August 6 10 minutes ago, Dolce Vita said: i feel like carly makes music for the 30 y/o gays with short curly mullets that go to boozy brunch in soho every weekend. she's content within her niche and doesn't have the aspirations charli has. And who does Charli make music for? The coke heads? The poppers brigade? The baguette's who spend most weekends being railed by somebody they barely know? The baguette's collecting STDs like they're Pokémon cards? I'm sure Carly loses sleep every night wishing that was her demographic. 4 1
skankle Posted August 7 Posted August 7 On 8/6/2024 at 1:28 PM, Daddy said: She doesn't have the team, connections and wishes Charli has. I think compared to Charli, Carly is extremely happy with her current career. Yeah I luv Charli and don't want to be too armchair psychiatrist but she seems pretty constantly unsatisfied, and I actually think the crazy success Brat is seeing may conversely drive her a bit crazy. Best of luck to her though! Maybe it's time to have that baby she was talking about.
makeawish Posted August 7 Posted August 7 if carly had an h then she would be charly and therefore would have her success, this is all she needs
Squall Posted August 8 Author Posted August 8 On 8/6/2024 at 1:18 PM, Cain said: Carly makes basic synthpop songs like it's cute but to suggest her music is of some superior quality just because of the poptimist advantage Emotion got on its Metacritic score is laughable and yes you can quote me with the Dua Lipa avi How is a 77 « poptimism »? This score is particularly good because it happened BEFORE poptimism 1
blueberries Posted August 8 Posted August 8 to be fair carly enjoyed more success in the kiss era than charli ever will 1
Innocencelost Posted August 8 Posted August 8 Carly is simply missing the edge and the pop culture relevance that Charli has been building up for years
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