KatyPrismSpirit Posted August 1 Posted August 1 (edited) Theres an uproar on X amongst the brainless conservative community. They accuse Imane Khelif (who is an Algerian born female boxer) of being a biological man without any proof. Despite Khelif being born female and not identifying as a man or trans, bigoted conservatives immediately assumed her identity to be that of a man. She has elevated levels of testosterone that lead her to have XY chromosomes however, this doesn't make someone a man. Edited August 2 by KatyPrismSpirit
Popular Post KatyPrismSpirit Posted August 1 Author Popular Post Posted August 1 It's so funny to me that brainless bigots like Elon Musk and JK rowling are salivating out of their mouths claiming this athlete is a man for having higher testosterone levels, whilst completely disregarding the fact she is in fact a born female. Arent these the same people that say you ARE the gender you are born as? Conservatives are the joke and scum of this world 13 2
Johnny Jacobs Posted August 1 Posted August 1 The fact that their stupidity keeps peaking chile.. Is scary 5 1
Popular Post Blade Runner Posted August 1 Popular Post Posted August 1 JK, you filthy beast. Burn in hell. 27
bushwick Posted August 1 Posted August 1 Since when is The Guardian a conservative publication? It's front page on their website right now: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/article/2024/aug/01/angela-carini-abandons-fight-after-46-seconds-against-imane-khelif There article begins with key information on this issue, proving your post to be misinformation: Italian boxer Angela Carini broke down in tears after she abandoned her bout against Algerian Imane Khelif after 46 seconds in a fight that sparked huge controversy at the Olympics. Khelif is one of two boxers permitted to fight at the Olympics despite being disqualified from the women's world championships last year for failing gender eligibility tests. So, which one is lying? The conservatives online and a giant, left-leaning journalistic establishment... or you? Anyway, the Olympics is really bombing hard with PR this year. 2 13
KatyPrismSpirit Posted August 1 Author Posted August 1 1 minute ago, bushwick said: Since when is The Guardian a conservative publication? It's front page on their website right now: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/article/2024/aug/01/angela-carini-abandons-fight-after-46-seconds-against-imane-khelif There article begins with key information on this issue, proving your post to be misinformation: Italian boxer Angela Carini broke down in tears after she abandoned her bout against Algerian Imane Khelif after 46 seconds in a fight that sparked huge controversy at the Olympics. Khelif is one of two boxers permitted to fight at the Olympics despite being disqualified from the women's world championships last year for failing gender eligibility tests. So, which one is lying? The conservatives online and a giant, left-leaning journalistic establishment... or you? Anyway, the Olympics is really bombing hard with PR this year. They are reporting misinformation. Algeria and the Olympics qualified her. Khelif is not trans or a male like these people claim she is. She has a disorder of sex development which causes some females to have XY chromosomes, this does not make someone a man. Pictures of her as a young child proof that she is in fact a woman 1 1
bushwick Posted August 1 Posted August 1 1 minute ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: They are reporting misinformation. Algeria and the Olympics qualified her. Khelif is not trans or a male like these people claim she is. She has a disorder of sex development which causes some females to have XY chromosomes, this does not make someone a man. Pictures of her as a young child proof that she is in fact a woman Funny how your OP didn't include any mention of her "biological disorder" that "gives her X/Y chromosomes." lol It took me to point our misinformation in your post for you to add more important context to this story. 10
KatyPrismSpirit Posted August 1 Author Posted August 1 Just now, bushwick said: Funny how your OP didn't include any mention of her "biological disorder" that "gives her X/Y chromosomes." lol It took me to point our misinformation in your post for you to add more important context to this story. My OP literally mentions she has XY chromosomes and that she is intersex. Before I edited it to add the tweets.
bushwick Posted August 1 Posted August 1 Just now, KatyPrismSpirit said: My OP literally mentions she has XY chromosomes and that she is intersex. Before I edited it to add the tweets. Nah, you edited it before that! Not cool, bro. Keep it consistent. 3
Femalien Posted August 1 Posted August 1 If Imane Khelif has a disorder of sex development then that seems pretty unfair, and i feel that can be stated without denigrating her womanhood. Boxing is the one area of sport that deserves this extra layer of scrutiny because the fighters are literally going mano a mano. It's why combat sports have weight classes and all that, mismatched strength levels lead to catastrophic outcomes 6 1 5
family.guy123 Posted August 1 Posted August 1 This isn't a transgender/gender ideology issue. I'd urge everyone to not fall for their trap by engaging along this line of debate.
Buffy Posted August 1 Posted August 1 1 minute ago, Femalien said: If Imane Khelif has a disorder of sex development then that seems pretty unfair, and i feel that can be stated without denigrating her womanhood. Boxing is the one area of sport that deserves this extra layer of scrutiny because the fighters are literally going mano a mano. It's why combat sports have weight classes and all that, mismatched strength levels lead to catastrophic outcomes Is there a reason why there can't be separate sport competitions for cases like this? Men vs men, women vs women, trans vs trans, other vs other, etc.
Popular Post swissman Posted August 1 Popular Post Posted August 1 5 minutes ago, bushwick said: Funny how your OP didn't include any mention of her "biological disorder" that "gives her X/Y chromosomes." lol It took me to point our misinformation in your post for you to add more important context to this story. But does even that change what the OP said? Regardless of any chromosomes, she is not a man nor a trans man, which is what these people are peddling as having been the case, which is what the OP is addressing. 23
KatyPrismSpirit Posted August 1 Author Posted August 1 Just now, swissman said: But does even that change what the OP said? Regardless of any chromosomes, she is not a man nor a trans man, which is what these people are peddling as having been the case, which is what the OP is addressing. Literally. And i in fact did mention it from the very beginning but that isnt even the point. Its the fact that conservatives with millions of followers are spreading clear and blatant misinformation about an Algerian woman. 2
BrokenMachine Posted August 1 Posted August 1 They're the first ones to scream 'biology!1!' and that bs but when actual biology, genetics, chromosomes and all of that come to bite their *ss they resort to keep hating anyways just because of the way she looks. Worms for brains, not surprising 8 1
Popular Post LIT Posted August 1 Popular Post Posted August 1 (edited) Apparently, it has never been confirmed that Khelif even has XY chromosomes - someone from the IBA claimed this without evidence, but no actual results were released. She's a cis woman, assigned female at birth, with hyperandrogenism. It's genuinely kind of surreal watching the TERF crowd and its antifeminist allies accuse her of being a "man". Feels like it goes to show how A) transphobia harms cis women, too, and B) transphobia is linked to white supremacy, with Khelif being deemed a "man" because of her not living up to eurocentric beauty standards. EDIT: Editing to correct myself—it's actually not been confirmed that Khelif has hyperandrogenism, either. No results confirming this have been released. Edited August 2 by LIT 32 12
swissman Posted August 1 Posted August 1 the thing is, conservatives can't quite make up their minds and they get lost in their own bigotry and ignorant rhetoric. 2
BrokenMachine Posted August 1 Posted August 1 Also it's strange that the Angela Carini 'interview' has been extremely viral and yet when I tried to look for a video of her ACTUALLY saying that I found nothing, almost like the viral quotes of what she said are fake news
Hephaestus Posted August 1 Posted August 1 (edited) The discussion around this is SO weird. According to conservatives everyone is the sex they're born with, but when people have characteristic that go beyond what's deemed "normal" they're suddenly transgender? The funniest thing to come out of this is them acknowledging transgender people do exist though, which is something they always brush under the rug as "gender ideology" or "wokeness". tl;dr: conservatives are a JOKE! Edited August 1 by Hephaestus 3 1
Communion Posted August 1 Posted August 1 13 minutes ago, bushwick said: Funny how your OP didn't include any mention of her "biological disorder" that "gives her X/Y chromosomes." lol It took me to point our misinformation in your post for you to add more important context to this story. Are you suggesting a cis woman with a DSD is no longer a woman? 5
bushwick Posted August 1 Posted August 1 Just now, Communion said: Are you suggesting a cis woman with a DSD is no longer a woman? I have no idea what DSD is—I'm not a medical professional. But the OP's post (before they edited it with dozens of tweets) failed to mention the athlete's chromosomal disorder, which has created a confusing and divisive atmosphere in this thread. 3
Illuminati Posted August 1 Posted August 1 (edited) Elon and JK Row immediately jumping on this The alleged experts on human anatomy Edited August 1 by Illuminati 1
swissman Posted August 1 Posted August 1 2 minutes ago, bushwick said: I have no idea what DSD is—I'm not a medical professional. But the OP's post (before they edited it with dozens of tweets) failed to mention the athlete's chromosomal disorder, which has created a confusing and divisive atmosphere in this thread. but do you not think that the "conservatives wrongly accus[ing] female boxer of being a man" are not also failing to mention the "chromosomal disorder"? and is that not the clear point of this thread, to call out how conservatives are simply saying "that's a man! transphobes unite!"? regardless of this "disorder", they are still calling a woman a man to promote their transphobic rhetoric. why is your concern more about whether an ATRL thread included this information fast enough, when it's there now, and when the discussion is barely changed having known this information? 2 10
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