Kukai Posted July 29 Posted July 29 (edited) I feel like the biggest problem with the new popstar girls is that their music doesn't seem to transcend generations. They appeal to the people they need to appeal to but the impact of that on wider culture seems to be limited. Bad Guy and Driver's License were big hits but will they be remembered as classics in the future in the same way Crazy in Love or Poker Face are? Idk tbh. With tik tok and streaming, I feel music has become so throwaway and youth-led that culturally impacting songs that become classics are now quite rare. Edited July 29 by Kukai 2
CaptainMusic Posted July 29 Posted July 29 None of them have any classics yet as it's far too early to tell. Especially Sabrina who was a nobody until a few months ago. 2
KatyPrismSpirit Posted July 29 Posted July 29 music needs to be a little older before it becomes a classic. like at least 10 years
makeawish Posted July 29 Posted July 29 i think bad guy counts already, that feels like a song that transcends generations and everyone knows what it is espresso i agree is probably a classic in the making, obvs it's too early to make a judgement on that but it's broken the barrier where a lot of people know who it is/what it is this is a difficult measurement tho cos of the ongoing fragmentation of culture, as a pop radio listener i think "oh that's on all the time, everyone knows that" and actually a lot of people listen to a bunch of very random stuff and have never heard a taylor swift song so idk
Mocha Posted July 29 Posted July 29 (edited) ocean eyes happier than ever traitor all potential classiques, plus their smashes Edited July 29 by Mocha
Kukai Posted July 29 Author Posted July 29 (edited) 4 minutes ago, makeawish said: i think bad guy counts already, that feels like a song that transcends generations and everyone knows what it is espresso i agree is probably a classic in the making, obvs it's too early to make a judgement on that but it's broken the barrier where a lot of people know who it is/what it is this is a difficult measurement tho cos of the ongoing fragmentation of culture, as a pop radio listener i think "oh that's on all the time, everyone knows that" and actually a lot of people listen to a bunch of very random stuff and have never heard a taylor swift song so idk Taylor's newer hits are not classics but she has songs like You Belong with me and Shake it off that definitely transcend generations and a lot of old people know them. Bad guy imo is already forgotten and does not have that same universal appeal even though it was a big hit. Edited July 29 by Kukai
CaptainMusic Posted July 29 Posted July 29 1 minute ago, makeawish said: i think bad guy counts already, that feels like a song that transcends generations and everyone knows what it is espresso i agree is probably a classic in the making, obvs it's too early to make a judgement on that but it's broken the barrier where a lot of people know who it is/what it is this is a difficult measurement tho cos of the ongoing fragmentation of culture, as a pop radio listener i think "oh that's on all the time, everyone knows that" and actually a lot of people listen to a bunch of very random stuff and have never heard a taylor swift song so idk Bad Guy is only doing 500k daily streams, there are like 100 songs from the last century doing more than that daily. Considering it was only released 5 years ago it should be doing much more than that if it was already a classic. 5
thatsmydemi Posted July 29 Posted July 29 Sabrina's breakthrough hit isn't even 6 months old? They all will. It's not really hard to have a classic nowadays. I mean, you all call everything a classic anyway so why won't they?
CandleGuy Posted July 29 Posted July 29 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Kukai said: I feel like the biggest problem with the new popstar girls is that their music doesn't seem to transcend generations. Pop girls usually don't, initially. You think Taylor in her Debut/Fearless era was pulling 30-40 year olds? Who would be 50-60 now? Gen X / Boomers only know her through their kids. No, she got Millennials when they were kids and then had enough longevity to add Gen Z and now early Gen Alpha kids. Same for Bey and anyone else. Edited July 29 by CandleGuy
Kukai Posted July 29 Author Posted July 29 (edited) 3 minutes ago, CandleGuy said: Pop girls usually don't, initially. You think Taylor in her Debut/Fearless era was pulling 30-40 year olds? Who would be 50-60 now? Gen X / Boomers only know her through their kids. No, she got Millennials when they were kids and then had enough longevity to add Gen Z and now early Gen Alpha kids. Same for Bey and anyone else. That's a fair point. I guess time will tell with their careers but I honestly find it hard to see any of these songs, people are listing in the thread, as classics in the future. Edited July 29 by Kukai
wish Posted July 29 Posted July 29 I can honestly see "What Was I Made For?" becoming a classic ballad for Billie. Universal appeal, strong recurrent streams, won prestigious accolades, attached to a cultural phenomenon, meaningful impactful lyrics 11
Space Cowboy Posted July 29 Posted July 29 Espresso feels like the only one that will become a classic. DL, Good 4 U, bad guy are already forgotten. 2 3
MusicLoverDude Posted July 29 Posted July 29 2 minutes ago, wish said: I can honestly see "What Was I Made For?" becoming a classic ballad for Billie. Universal appeal, strong recurrent streams, won prestigious accolades, attached to a cultural phenomenon, meaningful impactful lyrics Yeah I came here to say this. They already started playing it at grocery stores, the only Billie song they've ever added to their lists.
hawx23 Posted July 29 Posted July 29 Crazy in Love, Bad Romance, All Too Well etc are classics because they were pivotal to one demographic group (MILLENNIALS) who latched on to them and grew up with them. Same thing will happen with Gen Zs (Bad Guy, Drivers License, et,). 1
CandleGuy Posted July 29 Posted July 29 9 minutes ago, Kukai said: That's a fair point. I guess time will tell with their careers but I honestly find it hard to see any of these songs, people are listing in the thread, as classics in the future. That's true. People will always be nostalgic for the music they grew up with though so a few of these are bound to stick.
Taste of Honey Posted July 29 Posted July 29 For Sabrina, "Honeymoon Fades" is a classic in my house, but clearly she has none at this point, and that's ok. She's in ascendence.
Squall Posted July 29 Posted July 29 26 minutes ago, CaptainMusic said: None of them have any classics yet as it's far too early to tell. Especially Sabrina who was a nobody until a few months ago. bad guy is a classic lovely is literally pushing 3B on Spotify and still pulling 1.3M daily. You guys are just out of touch. 1
Squall Posted July 29 Posted July 29 11 minutes ago, Space Cowboy said: Espresso feels like the only one that will become a classic. DL, Good 4 U, bad guy are already forgotten. The delusion, not a 2B+ hit being « forgotten »
Recommended Posts