king_queen Posted July 24 Posted July 24 Just now, suneclipse121 said: I agree with what your saying Beyoncé's impact with CC is undeniable and Shaboozey having a #1 is in large part due Bey introducing him to a mainstream audiences months prior. Along with other black country artists. People are being dense on here but these are facts. However it is also true that at the point that Brat is at rn compared to CC it is reaching new heights while CC continued to drop respectively. In large part because Bey left it to die. While CC certainly had cultural impact in many ways and made history full stop. BRAT seems to me a contender in my view for cultural impact for this year as well. Listen I like brat. Love it even. But I honestly think as time goes on, brat will be seen as the gay album of summer 2024 while CC will be seen as a broken barrier in country music and for artists in the future to try concept projects to diversify their catalog. That is sooooo much more important than bops and memes to ME
suneclipse121 Posted July 24 Posted July 24 Just now, king_queen said: Listen I like brat. Love it even. But I honestly think as time goes on, brat will be seen as the gay album of summer 2024 while CC will be seen as a broken barrier in country music and for artists in the future to try concept projects to diversify their catalog. That is sooooo much more important than bops and memes to ME Agreed. History will look back at CC fondly for everything you said. BRAT gives me of its time vibes but not timeless. A great record but only time will tell. 1
Virgos Groove Posted July 24 Posted July 24 Yes tbh. But the biggest musical moment was the Kendrick vs. Drake beef.
blondeskinnyrich Posted July 24 Posted July 24 2 hours ago, king_queen said: Bc of the release of CC two black artists topped the country and hot 100 simultaneously. This is the first year in history that just one black artist has done that. how exactly is that most impactful? it impacted two charts for a brief moment and that's it? It's giving not the most impactful era of the year
UnusualBoy Posted July 24 Posted July 24 The only thing I see referencing is the album cover, not the music so yeah the cover is impactful but nothing else.
king_queen Posted July 24 Posted July 24 (edited) 10 minutes ago, suneclipse121 said: Agreed. History will look back at CC fondly for everything you said. BRAT gives me of its time vibes but not timeless. A great record but only time will tell. Like if you think about why artists like Michael and Prince are iconic. Its bc of the BARRIERS and glass ceilings they broke through. Record sales play a part in that yes, but not nearly as much being "the first black artist to get their music video played on MTV". That sort of stat can never be quantified. But you FEEL it in the culture. And THAT is what all of these artists don't have over Beyoncé currently in 2024. Edited July 24 by king_queen 1
king_queen Posted July 24 Posted July 24 5 minutes ago, blondeskinnyrich said: how exactly is that most impactful? it impacted two charts for a brief moment and that's it? It's giving not the most impactful era of the year Its a historical achievement no matter how you try to downplay it. Are we bringing up charts/sales or not? 1
blondeskinnyrich Posted July 24 Posted July 24 how is it only about the cover of the album? is no one talking about apple lyrics in addition to the silly dance? about girl, so confusing meaning and the remix? about being so julia? about having a brat/partygirl summer? vulnerability of the lyrics? how isn't the rollout one of the best eras we've seen recently? the brat wall? the remixes? the brands referencing brat to promote themselves? they are even talking about her in the most recent news related to Kamala. The era keeps on giving, it didn't just arrive, it's still happening, there's more to it each day, even if it slowed down a little bit now.
suneclipse121 Posted July 24 Posted July 24 7 minutes ago, blondeskinnyrich said: how exactly is that most impactful? it impacted two charts for a brief moment and that's it? It's giving not the most impactful era of the year It's more of a historical moment. First black woman in history to achieve these stats in country music is not "brief" it's forever going down in the books. You can make an argument on it's longevity but it's still history made and that's objective.
blondeskinnyrich Posted July 24 Posted July 24 2 minutes ago, king_queen said: Its a historical achievement no matter how you try to downplay it. Are we bringing up charts/sales or not? I'm not trying to take away the "historical achievement". Good for her. I just don't think it means it's the most impactful era of the year. Btw, it's about the ERA of the year, not just ALBUM. Can you even say CC had an era? It just dropped, she released a singular video (I think? sorry for being ignorant, idk) and just dipped not even saying byebye
king_queen Posted July 24 Posted July 24 Just now, blondeskinnyrich said: I'm not trying to take away the "historical achievement". Good for her. I just don't think it means it's the most impactful era of the year. Btw, it's about the ERA of the year, not just ALBUM. Can you even say CC had an era? It just dropped, she released a singular video (I think? sorry for being ignorant, idk) and just dipped not even saying byebye Why don't you think that's impactful for country music? What about brat is more impactful than that? The memes that are circulating?
blondeskinnyrich Posted July 24 Posted July 24 Just now, king_queen said: Why don't you think that's impactful for country music? What about brat is more impactful than that? The memes that are circulating? I think we have different definitions of impact. Perhaps it's just my little information bubble, but I don't see CC being talked about at all and BRAT's impact I can see in, as you said, the funny context, but also, as I mentioned, in context of the meaning behind the lyrics, the production of the album, the approach to the rollout, usage of her platforms to promote the album that haven't really been used in such way before, the way other brands are following her footsteps in this context, in club culture. Should I go on? I can try to think of more stuff... And for the record, I do not claim that its impact will be everlasting, that the era will certainly be talked about for ages. It might be just her moment and we'll all forget and look back at it as "yeah that happened and we really ate that up" but we don't know that. Nevertheless, the same can be said about CC. She might have broken a record, but does that "historical achievement" really mean something more than the fun fact you can share about your fave? I don't think so. And the same goes for everything I said about BRAT - it doesn't really matter that much outside the little part of the internet we're currently arguing in. Answering the question of the topic, I still believe it has been the most impactful era of the year so far.
king_queen Posted July 24 Posted July 24 (edited) 9 minutes ago, blondeskinnyrich said: And for the record, I do not claim that its impact will be everlasting, that the era will certainly be talked about for ages. And CC's impact is already proving to do just that Shaboozey's song is literally #1 THIS WEEK. Click on any article about that song and it will mention Beyoncé/CC. And for any POC/woman to release a country song/album in the future guess who's name will be mentioned "Shaboozey's co-manager, Jared Cotter, credited Beyoncé for knocking the doors that separated black artists and country music and explained that the release date of the single "A Bar Song (Tipsy)" was advanced by three weeks to take advantage of the opportunity created by the release of Cowboy Carter. The song would peak at number 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 and Billboard Hot Country Songs, replacing Beyoncé's own "Texas Hold 'Em", becoming the first time in history that two Black artists led the latter chart back to back. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboy_Carter#Impact "Cowboy Carter led to a surge in interest in Western clothing, including an increase in searches for Western-style jeans (610%), bolo ties (566%), flared denim (372%), cowboy boots (224%), and cowboy hats (213%)." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboy_Carter#Fashion_and_lifestyle THAT'S impact Edited July 24 by king_queen
Storm653 Posted July 24 Posted July 24 For Pop music, definitely yes. But I honestly feel "We Don't Trust You" by Metro Boomin and Future is the actual answer.
Relampago. Posted July 24 Posted July 24 honestly yes which is so crazy A year where juggernauts released and the one that came out on top was… Charli XCX. Talent really does win. 1
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