NoOneDiesFromLove Posted July 12 Posted July 12 16 minutes ago, Dad said: imagine if something happened to her, you girls would be singing her praises ????? such a weird thing to say 3
undermyskin Posted July 12 Posted July 12 7 minutes ago, popstyle said: Im at the point where im just gonna enjoy the music and not read into the hate. The era is going to be panned regardless because of who she worked with. We all know who started this smear campaign. Who started a smear campaign? A victim of abuse that bravely spoke out after having sold millions of records, sang on stages every night for multiple world tours; all of which profited her abuser who told her she wasn't talented or pretty enough to do any of those things? Right...okay girl 7 3 1
50thStateofMind Posted July 12 Posted July 12 releasing a song and video as bad as WW deserves draggings she can still win me back with better songs, but this one is a NO.
Maddox Posted July 12 Posted July 12 Eh.... she amassed a lot of goodwill online but she had to ruin it by releasing a shyte song with a rapist so 1
Badgalbriel Posted July 12 Posted July 12 Honest question. Do you think Woman's World is worth working with Luke? Like, what exactly does WW have that Max Martin or any other producer could not have done? Why the hell risk your career to work with a rapist is the result will just sound like the most generic Max Martin reject ever? 1 6
ImsoLOUD Posted July 12 Posted July 12 1 hour ago, Kern said: No, Katy Perry did with that horrible garbage song produced by rapist The racist Morgan Wallen has 2 albums in the top 10 on Billboard right now. Eminem, whom has openly admitted to abusing women is set to reach the top of the BB200 next week. Stans on this very forum have defended Camilla Cabello's racist history, and helped stream her album enough to keep her in the current top 20. I too would've preferred that Katy had not worked with Dr. Luke again and I'm not proud of said decision. Nevertheless, accountability shouldn't be selective. And such acts make ones true machinations become clear. The stan world is consistently inconsistent. 4 3
Blank Space Posted July 12 Posted July 12 2 hours ago, M!X said: I would say that even Selena Gomez who is always called the most talentless and worst MPG here has much better, more mature and interesting pop catalogue than Katy Selena outlasted Katy for a reason OT: No. She ruined pop
BrokenMachine Posted July 12 Posted July 12 One thing is to respect Katy for what she brough into pop culture during her peak, her catalogue of hits is undeniable. People are not dragging her for that, they are dragging her for the recent song she released and that video 1
M!X Posted July 12 Posted July 12 Just now, Blank Space said: Selena outlasted Katy for a reason OT: No. She ruined pop that reason being Good 4 You the best song of all time yes
bliaz Posted July 12 Posted July 12 You are asking too much. The misogynists are feasting, they've already found a new victim and they won't let go until they've had their fill. They always do. 6 1 4
ImsoLOUD Posted July 12 Posted July 12 5 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said: Honest question. Do you think Woman's World is worth working with Luke? Like, what exactly does WW have that Max Martin or any other producer could not have done? Why the hell risk your career to work with a rapist is the result will just sound like the most generic Max Martin reject ever? It definitely wasn't. As other posters stated, she is likely wishing to re-create the nostalgia of past successes but has been tone-deaf in her approach. There is no justification for working with Dr. Luke, especially when she likely has access to so many other producers. We also can't pretend that she wasn't receiving disproportionate hate well before "Woman's World" was even announced. Completely irrespective of her choice in producers.
Blank Space Posted July 12 Posted July 12 8 minutes ago, M!X said: that reason being Good 4 You the best song of all time yes Perfect being better and more mature than anything Katy has ever done 1
Bethenny Frankel Posted July 12 Posted July 12 she already was perished after witness but her career in a coffin rolling down the river now
dumbsparce Posted July 12 Posted July 12 All this could have been avoided if the song was better. That, combined with the Dr Luke stuff made her the easiest target for the next few months And it's one thing if it happens on atrl bc this is a niche forum. Now that the hate has expanded in the mainstream though I just can't help but roll my eyes bc those people have already scouted that it's safe to drag her without actually caring about any of her wrongdoings. Same thing that happened with JLo. Katy is a white, questionably talented woman way past her commercial prime, attempting to recreate what made her popular initially and her partner in crime is a sex offender. Like, who's gonna come at her defense? Maybe if she was 15 shades darker ppl wouldn't feel so comfortable dragging her to not be called racists, but here we are. 1
M!X Posted July 12 Posted July 12 27 minutes ago, Blank Space said: Perfect being better and more mature than anything Katy has ever done omg yes, and I genuinely believe this 1
zoldyck Posted July 12 Posted July 12 43 minutes ago, ImsoLOUD said: The racist Morgan Wallen has 2 albums in the top 10 on Billboard right now. Eminem, whom has openly admitted to abusing women is set to reach the top of the BB200 next week. Stans on this very forum have defended Camilla Cabello's racist history, and helped stream her album enough to keep her in the current top 20. Camila (like Katy) is very hated here, also like Camila, Katy did get enough streams from gays for smile to debut in top 10. So i don't kow what you trying to do here. Eminem/Morgan obviously don't have same audience as Camila/Katy.
Delirious Posted July 12 Posted July 12 3 hours ago, ThomasTea said: She's just the woman of the moment for the entire internet to come together to hate, recently it was JLO and Camilla before her, and another will follow after her. There's nothing this culture loves more than building women up to then tear them down and laugh as they fall. It's oh so predictable that gay men are at the forefront of these takedowns cause at the end of the day gay men are just that, men. a lot of them stan dr luke's underdog aka ethel cain which is absolutely hilarious LOL 3 1
Migs Posted July 12 Posted July 12 By Woman's World numbers, I think people are really leaving her alone. 8
If U Seek Amy Posted July 12 Posted July 12 This whole Katy thing definitely makes you see how toxic ATRL is for mental health. I get people have an issue working with Dr. Luke, but people have been nothing but awful to both each other and her to an insane degree. It's obvious why anxiety and depression run rampant these days based on how people treat one another. And you know most of this is coming from lonely losers at home that are single making minimum wage if they're even employed. Judging these millionaire successful women. It's sad really but that's the internet now ig 5 1
ariesgroove Posted July 12 Posted July 12 1 hour ago, Dad said: Attack some of the new girls who are bland and boring She is one of the OG pop girlies, put some respect on her name. nostalgia is a drug 1
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