Lagerfeld Posted July 9 Posted July 9 Both of these songs sat at the number one spot on the Hot 100. Espresso had some hype for a week or two, but the way PPP made it to the top of the charts was by being the next song on everybody's Spotify queue. Rather suspicious. What do we think?
Paragon Posted July 9 Posted July 9 Espresso is viral, part of it is organic. PPP didn't deserve to chart at all, it's payola. 3 1
starataneori Posted July 9 Posted July 9 Espresso is a real hit let's be real. PPP is just the after success of Espresso. But it's still too early to tell whether its gonna be a payola'd hit or real one
Bosque Posted July 9 Posted July 9 They definitely benefitted from autoplay and paid social media promotions, but the songs are good and connected with the audience. Both songs are in the Top 10 of Apple Music as well 1
BlackoutZone Posted July 9 Posted July 9 Espresso is definitely a definitive smash, with autoplay or not. Please Please Please is more of an effect of being an Espresso follow up with good rollout. 4
NextBish90 Posted July 9 Posted July 9 There is definitely that feeling, but everyone does it nowadays. It's not her personally but her label and her team.
punisher Posted July 9 Posted July 9 not really, they all debuted well and did well on AM nonsense was though
Harrier Posted July 9 Posted July 9 PPP is a combination of autoplay payola, benefitting from the fact that Espresso is organically huge, and a bit of it's own success. You could make an argument it represents a 'payolad' hit but I think it is a little too big to just be that. I think there is no conversation with Espresso though. It's just huge - biggest hit of the year IMO
jomarr Posted July 9 Posted July 9 I thought PPP was payola'd as **** but then I keep on hearing people humming it at work on different times and places. It's definitely catchy. Espresso is kinda organic since it went extremely viral but then again her team and label of course had to do their magic. So yes payola and organic hit. I think both could coexist.
Dialamba Posted July 9 Posted July 9 Expresso and PPP fighting back & forth is funny to me. PPP had +12M streams a week ago and now it's behind billie's song.
Orsay Posted July 9 Posted July 9 Espresso is mega organic. Even my straight brother who doesn't like mainstream pop music commented on how he hears it everywhere. I think PPP is too, you can't payola being the "it" girl of the moment
kellebrity98 Posted July 9 Posted July 9 *****, she sold out her first arena tour in a heartbeat with around 500k tickets. not many artists can do it.
Mr.X Posted July 9 Posted July 9 Both incredibly payolla yes. But Espresso at least also became a proper hit that people seem to genuinely love
Gaia Posted July 9 Posted July 9 (edited) 2 hours ago, Harrier said: PPP is a combination of autoplay payola, benefitting from the fact that Espresso is organically huge, and a bit of it's own success. You could make an argument it represents a 'payolad' hit but I think it is a little too big to just be that. I think there is no conversation with Espresso though. It's just huge - biggest hit of the year IMO The song was #1 on AM for weeks which is rare for a pop song. It clearly was mostly its own hit that also had autoplay payola. Autoplay does not put a song as 12M daily streams I know you already said it wasn't just payola but the way people say payola first always gives the impression there's a belief that it's the driving factor of the success when it's not. Edited July 9 by Gaia
Ger Posted July 9 Posted July 9 5 hours ago, Lagerfeld said: Both of these songs sat at the number one spot on the Hot 100. Well... no
byzantium Posted July 9 Posted July 9 Pleas Please Please is organic because 50% of the streams come from me. Espresso is payola because only 30% of the streams come from me.
AvadaKedavra Posted July 9 Posted July 9 Espresso is not. The song is that good. It just works for the summer
lg6chromatica Posted July 9 Posted July 9 Obviously. These labels decide which songs are going to be hits.
supertiffany Posted July 9 Posted July 9 most of the songs do it difference is Sabrina's hits STICK N STAY
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