Miracle Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 (edited) 5 minutes ago, MP3 said: France needs to fill a political gap between RN and Ensemble-coalition, a real right party, something less populist then RN but more conservative then Ensemble. Even with 200 left seats, there is still 377 seats non-left, which are mostly on the centre/centre-right/far-right side, so to say that France took a left turn, not sure about it, mostly France showed that what they want is a balance between far-right and centre That's a ridiculous read...they have that with the classic right that didn't join the RN for these elections and they still flopped badly... Also, the left wasn't the one favoured here by centrists...it was the centrists, cause the left was significantly more generous and all their third candidates left the race...what I'm sure is that Melenchon with the support of all these parties could win against Le Pen in a presidential election. P.S.: Most people in western Europe are either centre-left or centre-right and while trends change, but this is definitely not a turn to the right... Edited July 7 by Miracle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squall Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Miracle said: This is historical, because not only Le Pen is likely gonna be third place, but the left is #1...It's scary but I think if Macron renounced being the president, Melenchon could be the next president of France. This is the biggest defeat to the far right in a long time No, Mélenchon doesn't stand a chance. Also, far-right is still gaining space so I wouldn't call it a big defeat either. Edited July 7 by Squall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostBox Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Biden/Harris coming to replicate thing win in the US 🎉 all then pundits and polls were proved wrong once again 👏🏼👏🏼 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzo Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 24 minutes ago, Miracle said: This is historical, because not only Le Pen is likely gonna be third place, but the left is #1...It's scary but I think if Macron renounced being the president, Melenchon could be the next president of France. This is the biggest defeat to the far right in a long time Mélenchon might be the less popular political candidate in the country at the moment (right after Macron of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlwlrma Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Putin's fascist puppet lost the same will not happen in USA "both are evil" propaganda is working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotham Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 I feel like this always happens where France's far right does well at first but then ends up flopping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miracle Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 4 minutes ago, Squall said: No, Mélenchon doesn't stand a chance. Also, far-right is still gaining space so I wouldn't call it a big defeat either. We would have to see...there's clearly more people scared about the far right than about Melenchon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miracle Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Just now, Jotham said: I feel like this always happens where France's far right does well at first but then ends up flopping. It kinda happens in most countries in western Europe...it's still worrying but they end up losing seats...and also far right governments in Europe have lasted only one term except for Poland (Orban is more of a catch-all authoritarian man) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miracle Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 5 minutes ago, GhostBox said: Biden/Harris coming to replicate thing win in the US 🎉 all then pundits and polls were proved wrong once again 👏🏼👏🏼 Unfortunately, Biden is in no way shape or form as capable as Melenchon or even Macron who I despise. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 (edited) 6 minutes ago, GhostBox said: Biden/Harris coming to replicate thing win in the US 🎉 all then pundits and polls were proved wrong once again 👏🏼👏🏼 If these kinds of results on pure #s were replicated in the US for a US system, it'd look like: A Trump presidency A Republican controlled Senate A Democrat controlled House ? Edited July 7 by Communion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP3 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 1 minute ago, Miracle said: That's a ridiculous read...they have that with the classic right that didn't join the RN for these elections and they still flopped badly... Also, the left wasn't the one favoured here by centrists...it was the centrists, cause the left was significantly more generous and all their third candidates left the race...what I'm sure is that Melenchon with the support of all these parties could win against Le Pen in a presidential election. Even with the NFP winning most seats, no way Mélenchon will be the next Prime minister, he's hated outside LFI and amongst a vast majority of French people. If RN was something new, less populist, not associated with the Le Pens (father and daughter), it would do so much better. French people are not leftist at all, they are centre-right people, on social and economical scale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squall Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 4 minutes ago, Miracle said: We would have to see...there's clearly more people scared about the far right than about Melenchon. He is way too polarizing, this is way too risky and according to polls, he was losing against MLP 2 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John Slayne Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 good. hopefully in the next few years we can figure out how to stomp out the far-right permanently 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP3 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 RN only lost because of the withdrawals of most third candidates, otherwise it would be the leading party, maybe not the absolute majority but for sure the one with most seats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlwlrma Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 no way Macron will renounce, at least not for Melenchon Melenchon can't control the left and center together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Oh they big mad. If the far-right is already calling centrists coup-committing socialists, sounds like the center should just accept socialists as the group they should always work with instead of trying to smother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Communion Posted July 7 Popular Post Share Posted July 7 5 minutes ago, MP3 said: RN only lost because of the withdrawals of most third candidates, otherwise it would be the leading party, maybe not the absolute majority but for sure the one with most seats On 6/22/2024 at 6:28 PM, MP3 said: I'm more on the right side of the political spectrum in general My biggest conservative thing about me is that I'm a strong nationalist Hmmm 3 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Aurora Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 I mean, are we surprised? It's hard to see France switching to the Far-right tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP3 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 4 minutes ago, Communion said: Hmmm Haha can we have all our political preferences without being judged 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miracle Whip Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 1 hour ago, Yog said: THE BLUE WAVE KEEPS COMING 🌊 Blue is right and Red is left everywhere but the USA. 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Illuminati Posted July 7 Popular Post Share Posted July 7 Hope Le Panned is having the worst day of her life today, and everyday Stubs her toe, tumbles down the stairs, hears I Luv It on the radio, whatever it takes 3 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 I have no idea how French politics works ☠️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittenCake Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 any funny reactions to watch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwendolyn Posted July 7 Author Share Posted July 7 2 minutes ago, SmittenCake said: any funny reactions to watch? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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