naval23 Posted Monday at 08:12 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:12 PM (edited) During the Teenage Dream era and it's domination, the GP would refer to Katy as a singles artist Now that Teenage Dream is Diamond certified, does this change the narrative? Or is she still a singles artist with this achievement? Edited Monday at 09:01 PM by naval23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CherryBay Posted Monday at 08:15 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:15 PM Duh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Posted Monday at 08:17 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:17 PM Yes, she's an album artist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lustforyou Posted Monday at 08:19 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:19 PM No, I'm not looking up the recurrent streams but I'm assuming they're carried HEAVILY by he 5 singles. Also, imo, to be an albums artist you need a proven history of multiple albums being consumed as a whole over singles; not just one smash era. I think of Lana, Billie, Olivia, Taylor, Beyonce, SZA, Adele, hell even Melanie Martinez and Lorde as album artists over Katy. Even Ariana is much more of an albums artist than Katy at this point, and I feel like Ariana is mostly known for her singles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadie Saxton Posted Monday at 08:20 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:20 PM She singles artist'd her way around full circle to being an album artist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasTea Posted Monday at 08:22 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:22 PM 1 minute ago, lustforyou said: No, I'm not looking up the recurrent streams but I'm assuming they're carried HEAVILY by he 5 singles. Also, imo, to be an albums artist you need a proven history of multiple albums being consumed as a whole over singles; not just one smash era. I think of Lana, Billie, Olivia, Taylor, Beyonce, SZA, Adele, hell even Melanie Martinez and Lorde as album artists over Katy. Even Ariana is much more of an albums artist than Katy at this point, and I feel like Ariana is mostly known for her singles. 8 singles* which are the majority of the album… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOW Posted Monday at 08:22 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:22 PM Teenage Dream is the rare exception where Katy was so successful as a singles artist to the point that most of the album consisted of those hugely consumed singles. I think she is still a singles artist though because several songs on Teenage Dream have yet to even hit 50M streams on Spotify and she hasn't come close to repeating this even with PRISM. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itshyolee Posted Monday at 08:22 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:22 PM She's still a singles artist, but with a major achievement. Besides the singles, the album itself isn't anything special to write home about imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blown away Posted Monday at 08:25 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:25 PM Nah, it's mainly because of the gigantic singles that the album managed to go Diamond. An album like Sour or Jagged Little Pill would make one an album artist. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perfect blue Posted Monday at 08:32 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:32 PM it basically makes her the most successful singles artist of all time.. but anyway, voted yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillingYourCareer Posted Monday at 08:33 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:33 PM Of 15 tracks, 8 were smash hits, so yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TayDuaStan Posted Monday at 08:35 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:35 PM She'll be considered an album artist when all her projects, including Smile & Witness will also reach those milestones, so probably never Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lustforyou Posted Monday at 08:37 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:37 PM 13 minutes ago, ThomasTea said: 8 singles* which are the majority of the album… Okay, so she has one album that was a smash. How are OOTB, Prism, Witness, and Smile's album tracks doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariesgroove Posted Monday at 08:38 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:38 PM still a singles artist, thats not a bad thing but still getting a diamond album is major Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Vinci Posted Monday at 08:43 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:43 PM Yes* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuelalex9810 Posted Monday at 08:59 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:59 PM A single artist getting a diamond certified album, not a lot of 'album artists' have achieved that in this century Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getinthezone Posted Monday at 09:07 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:07 PM no it sold very little pure with how many hits it had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrgVisual Posted Monday at 09:11 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:11 PM Well the "singles" made up the majority of the album so I would say yes. It's like saying "Bad" is not a highly-consumed album because the only 2 non-single tracks didn't get as many streams The truth is, the GP doesn't care about the album, they only listen to the hit songs. The fans are the ones boosting the album tracks in the streaming era. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetOreosOfHeaven Posted Monday at 09:12 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:12 PM (edited) Nope. Smile, Witness and KP6 (I predict) are tanks albums that will struggle to reach platinum or even gold. Then Prism and OOTB did good, but not great. Teenage Dream smashed, sure, but she's not consistently selling albums and I'd be very surprised if she doesn't continue to underperform her respective last era for the rest of her career. Edited Monday at 09:13 PM by SweetOreosOfHeaven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halcyonday Posted Monday at 09:18 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:18 PM Of course, a diamond album seller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethereal Posted Monday at 09:27 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:27 PM 'Singles artists' as a title was a thing in 2010s/digital era. TD reaching the diamond status is heavily depended on the huge digital downloads of the singles as well the catalog streams from those singles, so for sure she was a single's artists. It's not like she went diamond with pure sales. But as I said in streaming it does not matter the same way it used to, in 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
State of Grace. Posted Monday at 09:30 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:30 PM Isn't the album mostly singles? It's an extremely impressive feat regardless, but let's not get carried away calling her an albums artist when her album tracks have horrendous streams... The album's pure sales are also "low" for how many hits it had and so I'm not sure that helps too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyride Posted Monday at 09:33 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:33 PM well people bought the album and half of the album separately so I would say yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slw84 Posted Monday at 11:20 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:20 PM I'm happy Katy has this achievement but aren't singles double counted as album equivalents. It's allowed things like this to happen but there's nothing wrong with being a singles artists. Paula adbul, Rihanna, Katy and others have hits most people remember Compare it to albums artist and how many people care about the album tracks as much as the classic hits. You need to prove multiple times that hit or not hit people will consume the album for the body of work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witnessed ET Posted Monday at 11:35 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:35 PM (edited) 3 hours ago, lustforyou said: No, I'm not looking up the recurrent streams but I'm assuming they're carried HEAVILY by he 5 singles. Also, imo, to be an albums artist you need a proven history of multiple albums being consumed as a whole over singles; not just one smash era. I think of Lana, Billie, Olivia, Taylor, Beyonce, SZA, Adele, hell even Melanie Martinez and Lorde as album artists over Katy. Even Ariana is much more of an albums artist than Katy at this point, and I feel like Ariana is mostly known for her singles. Not 5 sis, she has 8 humongous singles from that album and that's already half the album. OT: well she's a singles artist for sure, BUT she still went Diamond with an album. That's a feat not a lot of people can achieve. And having huge singles with the gp is more impactful than fans boosting the album tracks, especially with the streaming era audience. Edited Monday at 11:39 PM by Witnessed ET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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