discussion Are Putin and Kim Jong-un two of the most evil people in world history?

[Gwendolyn]

Inspired by this tweet, some of the qrts are genuinely concerning; what was interesting was the amount of stan accounts saying American presidents and Netanyahu did worse than Putin and Kim Jong-un combined.

 

 

 

Edited June 23 by Gwendolyn

[Pendulum]

add B&B too (Bibi and Biden)

[Hurem]

Most evil in the entire history of the world? I don't think so.

 

But also comparing evil leaders is stupid. They all deserve to rot.

[The_Bling]

Who cares where they rank in a hypothetical most evil person to ever live  these two are a ******* MENACE and that's the bottom line

[GhostBox]

They both are murderous dictators. So yes they are horrible. But there's a long list and I'm sure they're in the top 5. 

Edited June 23 by GhostBox

[bad guy]

Recorded history? They're not even Top 10 

[Donquizote]

Not when Netanyahu and Biden are conspiring to kill hundreds of thousands of people in Gaza strip

[Bosque]

Certainly not. Adolf Hitler and Karl Marx come to mind

[LIT]

The United States (and Canada) would never have existed without historically unprecedented genocide on a continent-wide scale. Prior to European colonization, indigenous nations in North America had a population of 10 million. By the year 1900, only 300,000 remained. So no, Putin and KJU don't even come close to the top of the list.

[glitch]

Stalin sweetie

[Loca]

1 hour ago, Bosque said:

Certainly not. Adolf Hitler and Karl Marx come to mind

Are you ******* stupid

[Lana Banana]

Hitler was horrible, but a lot of people don't even know/ignore how Stalin was actually worse than Hitler and those are just two on top of my head, therefore your suggested shits aren't even in the Top 10 as mentioned in this thread before. 

Edited June 23 by Lana Banana

[Eat The Acid]

Of living leaders? I think they're definitely behind Biden. 

[family.guy123]

21 hours ago, LIT said:

The United States (and Canada) would never have existed without historically unprecedented genocide on a continent-wide scale. Prior to European colonization, indigenous nations in North America had a population of 10 million. By the year 1900, only 300,000 remained. So no, Putin and KJU don't even come close to the top of the list.

Canada and USA aren't people though. 
 

 

[harwee]

Kim looks like he's drooling in that thumbnail

 

 

[heckinglovato]

Few that come to mind: Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Barack Obama

 

Of course U.S. Republicans too, but at least they don't falsely hide behind a non-evil agenda. 

[GraceRandolph]

Andrew Jackson is worse than both. 

[A.R.L]

On 6/23/2024 at 11:18 PM, LIT said:

The United States (and Canada) would never have existed without historically unprecedented genocide on a continent-wide scale. Prior to European colonization, indigenous nations in North America had a population of 10 million. By the year 1900, only 300,000 remained. So no, Putin and KJU don't even come close to the top of the list.

Pretty much just like how 99% of the humans in the entire globe created their empires and current countries. 

[Letemtalk]

On 6/24/2024 at 8:59 AM, Bosque said:

Certainly not. Adolf Hitler and Karl Marx come to mind

Perhaps it would be good if people on here learnt a little bit of history. Karl Marx was not a national leader, held no political office, had no army. Nor was he a weapons maker profiting from supplying other nations carrying out genocide and mass murder.

 

On 6/24/2024 at 9:18 AM, LIT said:

The United States (and Canada) would never have existed without historically unprecedented genocide on a continent-wide scale. Prior to European colonization, indigenous nations in North America had a population of 10 million. By the year 1900, only 300,000 remained. So no, Putin and KJU don't even come close to the top of the list.

Perhaps a low estimate. David Stannard, the historian who wrote American Holocaust: Columbus and the Conquest of the New World, estimates that during that time (of colonisation) the indigenous population of the Western Hemisphere declined by as many as 100 million people.

 

This figure includes North and South American deaths and the responsibility is shared by many political and military leaders over that time.

[Illuminati]

Kim could be excluded as his power kinda solely lies within his country's borders, he's closer to Netanyahu than to Putin. But Putin represents the kind of evil people like to think we've moved away from a long time ago. It's not the west propaganda when Russia is openly proud of the kind of regime Putin has built.

 

US presidents by design will hardly ever come close to that kind of power because they're only there for a brief period of time before being replaced, unless Trump somehow creates a path for a future dictator.

 

On 6/24/2024 at 1:29 AM, Lana Banana said:

Hitler was horrible, but a lot of people don't even know/ignore how Stalin was actually worse than Hitler and those are just two on top of my head, therefore your suggested shits aren't even in the Top 10 as mentioned in this thread before. 

Worse is perhaps a stretch but definitely on par. People overlook just how demonic the USSR was under Stalin and they brush away the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact like it was nothing because even the leftists that are so keen to hold the US accountable suffer from the same US/West-centric narcissism as the far right.

 

Treating the US not just as the main character in the world but as the only entity that can make decisions not influenced by outside powers or have any ambitions at all. Everyone else gets excused as just being manipulated into doing evil things by outside powers.

[bleuwaffle]

Absolutely not

[Cesar]

On 6/23/2024 at 4:59 PM, Bosque said:

Certainly not. Adolf Hitler and Karl Marx come to mind

 

[a_d_22]

On 6/23/2024 at 4:30 PM, Eat The Acid said:

Of living leaders? I think they're definitely behind Biden. 

Biden's not great but he is miles better than Kim Jong Un and Vladimir Putin, hell even Trump was a better president then they are as leaders 

[Aethereal]

On 6/23/2024 at 10:59 PM, Bosque said:

Certainly not. Adolf Hitler and Karl Marx come to mind

Whom  did Marx kill?

[Eat The Acid]

7 hours ago, a_d_22 said:

Biden's not great but he is miles better than Kim Jong Un and Vladimir Putin, hell even Trump was a better president then they are as leaders 

They're all murderers to me. But what Biden is doing in Palestine takes the biscuit. One of the most evil men in modern day history.