base talk Are music critics getting out of touch?

[Meev]

This year, with TTPD being panned by music critics everywhere, it had seemed to mark that poptimism was on the wane.

 

When you look at the highest rated albums on metacritic this year, the only 3 albums from major pop acts that are in the top 150 highest rated albums are Brat, Cowboy Carter and HMHAS, all 3 are ranked within the top 10 albums of the year, with Brat being second and CC being third, and HMHAS being 9th.

 

Of these entries, as a pop and country fan, I can't fathom how Brat and CC are so high in critical praise. Listening to Brat, it is literally the type of music targeting the lowest denominator gays.

 

When we talk about white gays listening to the worst music you have ever heard, that basically summarises the whole Brat album to a T. I know a lot of gays are wanting to become music critics due to their love of music in general, but honestly the taste level of the gays in music cannot be trusted.

 

Cowboy Carter on the other hand is not a good country album. It might be a good Beyoncé album dipping her toes into country, but if you tell any country fan that this album is the highest rated country album of the year, they would tell you that this is outrageous. 
 

HMHAS is legitimately an amazing album from Billie, and I more than agree with it's score and ranking, but I also feel that Billie is also catering to the music taste of white gays with this album.

 

All other pop and hip pop acts have been decimated in critical reviews. I do agree that it is a long time coming for the end of poptimism, but I feel that music journalism are being skewed towards to taste of gay men, especially in the area of pop music.
 

I don't think this is a good thing for the music critic world, as the group of people involved in music critical reviewing is increasing moving away from the taste levels of the average person as well as objective understanding of the music genre(s) that they are reviewing.

[Breathe On Moi]

TL;DR: Taylor is a victim! 

 

[punisher]

a swiftie saying CC and Brat is mid, i must laugh

[makeawish]

i don't actually think its skewing twds the tastes of gay men at all.

 

my feeling is that things like CC, HMHAS, brat etc are being rewarded for being the kind of records that you can review like a rock album - CC with it big expansive concept and political dimension, billie's album with its more lush sound and structural trickery, brat diving into v meta areas lyrically etc - they all lend themselves to having quite rock crit things to say about them. 

 

i like the taylor album but i think that reviewers like novelty and clever bits to talk about and it is kinda just another post "taylor is for the dads now" taylor record, albeit the best of that kind imo.

 

the flaw of critics these days is the same as its always been, they run too much on vibes and are less interested in a decent tune.

[byzantium]

No they correctly gave GUTS high praise.  

[JC.]

I would suggest reading the reviews on MC and see what they appreciated about the albums. 

[Erreur2 La Nature]

Taylor's album(s) deserve a much worse score and critics have always been out of touch 

[SweetOreosOfHeaven]

Your post reeks of internalized homophobia 

[iamanearthling]

You snapped

[dirrtydiana]

They've always been as they've also been unnecessary and outdated 

 

 

Edited Saturday at 01:15 PM by dirrtydiana

[unino]

no, it's YOU.

[jesus del rey]

Of course only a Swiftie would write something borderline-homophobic (or -any-phobic) to defend TS

 

[Alaska.]

Gay club music > high school poems 

[Bitter Aging Twink]

15 minutes ago, Meev said:

I know a lot of gays are wanting to become music critics due to their love of music in general, but honestly the taste level of the gays in music cannot be trusted.

I strongly disagree with this take.  Most gay men have better-than-average taste in music.  Try going to a regular "straight bar" then go to a gay bar and the difference will be palpable.  Most straight men are content with having mumble rap and bro country on in the background.  If that's your idea of good music then I don't know what to tell you, sis.

[JO1s]

13 minutes ago, Meev said:

Listening to Brat, it is literally the type of music targeting the lowest denominator gays.

 

When we talk about white gays listening to the worst music you have ever heard, that basically summarises the whole Brat album to a T. I know a lot of gays are wanting to become music critics due to their love of music in general, but honestly the taste level of the gays in music cannot be trusted.

 

Imagine saying all this while trying to defend an album with dated synths and corny lyrics like ttpd that she recycled from midnights which is what are both actually what you're describing.

[ericcartman]

You're not wrong

[ericcartman]

Just now, JO1s said:

Imagine saying all this while trying to defend an album with dated synths and corny lyrics like ttpd that she recycled from midnights which is what are both actually what you're describing.

He only mentioned TTPD to show that maybe poptism is on the way down

[JO1s]

Just now, ericcartman said:

He only mentioned TTPD to show that maybe poptism is on the way down

Nah we know why the cult member made this thread.

[Colmillo]

You stan Taylor Swift, of course you wouldn't understand REAL MUSIC 

 

 

But you have a point, critics sometimes are out of touch, for example Midnights deserves a 60 AT MOST, but it got a higher score, so...

[Digitalism]

Have you ever thought that maybe they were out of touch when they gave Midnights and some of the undercooked TVs great scores too?

[tomo]

Crying at OP thinking BRAT is only appealing to the gays.

 

 

[Jon Snow]

Has it ever crossed your mind that TTPD might be a bad album and is rightfully panned, which doesn't have to do anything with poptimism? 

[Cain]

No, it seems Swifties are

[enchanted0]

Honey.... CC and BRAT are great albums-- even though CC is forgotten after two days and no one irl cares about BRAT. Let them have their cute moment.  but in all seriousness, I kinda agree that this "pop music is back" discourse certainly gives circlejerk energy. Like no one really cares.

[NEX]

I love Taylor, but putting any of those 3 albums in the same sentence as TTPD is insulting