Julia Fox Posted June 20 Posted June 20 (edited) For the past years Sabrina Carpenter has slowly rising her popularity on ATRL with a lot of detractors that call her an industry plant, a loser and a basic white pop singer that will never reach any heights, but surprisingly Sabrina has proved then wrong with every move she has been doing since the release of emails i can't send on july 2022. Here's a timeline of all the times ATRL was proved wrong about her and apparently, the list could still join more episodes now that she announced her US Arena Tour where some OSCH has said she was gonna struggle to sell because she doesn't have a fanbase and it's a faceless pop act but just for the past two tests she has been touring theaters with a 5-7k capacity max and she sold out them all in 5 minutes plus. 1. July 2022 making fun of her because of Olivia situation, saying emails was bad but then switching when they give the album a listen. 2. January 2023 the Nonsense auto play payola allegations saying she was gonna be out of the top 200 after a month and it's been almost two years and the song is top 60 global and has a residency on the top 200 since it started. 3. August 2023- present Saying she doesn't have hits and she will never find a spot on the h100 top 20 but feather almost got there, even feather was accused of radio payola but it reached #1 on pop radio like two months ago and it's still top 10 because the people loves it and it's still top 30 on Billboard despite being out there for a year and being pushed a single for more than 6 months (it's called longevity and payola could never give you that) 4. April 2024 then Espresso came out and started saying she was using auto play for its humongous numbers despite doing good at every metric and streaming platform. 5. April 2024 espresso starting to be top 10 over all platforms denying the auto play allegations and then saying "but now she needs a second hit" -and saying that Taylor was the reason she was smashing but she was outselling her current single and turned she had the bigger smash of the two 6. June 2024 releases "PPP" people on here saying the song was trash and it was destined to flop but started to smash since day #1 7. June 2024 people saying she's terrible live because she was dancing and singing Espresso everywhere without a rest after going on tour for almost two years, now she's back at the spectacular performances and being praised by the press and the GP because her performer abilities 8. June 2024- present keeping the payola allegations, but PPP reaching #1 on AM US, UK and debuting high on almost all charts, expected to reach #1 on the Hot 100 next week but I know then they will say "she now needs a third hit and a hit album to be considered a successful artists" 9. June 2024 "PPP" reaching #1 people got pressed and start diminishing her success with the autoplay argument yet she was #1 on AM US during all week. 10. June 2024 The moment her arena tour was announced people said she had no demand. But Sabrina proved them wrong, having humongous numbers on queue for a lot of her shows in pre sale (70k for MSG for example) We are gonna keep this thread updated every time Sabrina proves ATRL wrong just for the fumes and FACTS. isn't that sweet, I guess so? Edited June 25 by Julia Fox 10 1
Papi Juancho Posted June 20 Posted June 20 (edited) The fact that more than half of those allegations are right, including the industy plant and autoplay. You literally proved the point of her haters. Edited June 20 by Papi Juancho 3 2 1
Vegvisir Posted June 20 Posted June 20 I knew Please Please Please would smash the second I saw the usual haters on ATRL calling it the worst follow up single in recent memory Literally one of the BEST follow up singles in years if you ask me! 4
Julia Fox Posted June 20 Author Posted June 20 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Papi Juancho said: The fact that more than half of those allegations are right, including the industy plant and autoplay. You literally proved the point of his haters. an industry plant that has been on the industry for 10 years and it's just now smashing because of her constant output and hard work? accusing her of autoplay but smashing on every platform and being talked everywhere on TikTok, X and the media? yeah obviously the haters can't have reading comprehension, even more the 4 Maluma fans that are left in the world that make their ears damaging with those basic reggaeton songs rehashes with no personality, just a fast acoustic guitar and a reggaeton beat and call it a day. It must be hard to understand being wrong when you can't even understand what it's stated as a fact, isn't it? Edited June 20 by Julia Fox 3 1
Papi Juancho Posted June 20 Posted June 20 (edited) I don't know why her fans are mad about the autoplay allegations when honestly it's not a bad thing. Okay, it's annoying as an user, but obviously if a label wants one of their artists to succeed they need to use a lot of tricks. The autoplay is just a "new tool", adding to SoundCloud or YouTube bots, paying influencers on social media, radio payola, paying critics... something EVERYONE in the industry has done at some point. Edited June 20 by Papi Juancho 2
Julia Fox Posted June 20 Author Posted June 20 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Papi Juancho said: I don't know why her fans are mad about the autoplay allegations when honestly it's not a bad thing. Okay, it's annoying as an user, but obviously if a label wants one of their artists to succeed, they need to use a lot of tricks. The autoplay is just a new tool, adding to SoundCloud or YouTube bots, paying influencers on social media, radio payola, paying critics... something EVERYONE in the industry has done at some point. then why start diminish her success and shading her with autoplay? stop playing the passive aggressive card because you have been on every Sabrina thread talking about autoplay out of all things. If it's so normal then why put it on every thread? don't be fake girl. you made like two thread on Celebria saying she was autoplaying giving obsessed hater and nobody is buying this attitude from you, not even you lol Edited June 20 by Julia Fox 2
Papi Juancho Posted June 20 Posted June 20 1 minute ago, Julia Fox said: then why start diminish her success and shading her with autoplay? stop playing the passive aggressive card because you have been on every thread talking about autoplay out of all things. If it's so normal then why put it on every thread? don't be fake girl when I diminish her success? It has simply been posted that some of her success is due to the use of autoplay, but in the end, the success is still there. She's talented and the music is good. 1
ChooseyLover Posted June 20 Posted June 20 I first knew of her when I listened to Skin, and I love that song. I prefer it over tired Jack Antonoff cuts. I'll root for her when she surrounds herself with producers that can make her vocal range justice (she's actually way more than talented than what people know her for right now).
Mrnoniee Posted June 20 Posted June 20 I ain't reading all that. I LOVE Sabrina so automatically support whatever you said --- I do remember the lashing she got for this during SOUR: thank God the evil purple background witch is DEFEATED and TANKED while this queen is SMASHING 1
Kukai Posted June 20 Posted June 20 23 minutes ago, Papi Juancho said: The fact that more than half of those allegations are right, including the industy plant and autoplay. You literally proved the point of her haters. Period. The hype around Sabrina seems very artificial. When the payola ends I'll be curious to see if her "fans" will still be around. Look what happened to miss Dua Lipa
Bartender Posted June 20 Posted June 20 Kudos to her for rising from the Olivia scandal and look at her now she's a pop princess in the making
ImpressMeMuch Posted June 20 Posted June 20 5 minutes ago, Mrnoniee said: I ain't reading all that. I LOVE Sabrina so automatically support whatever you said --- I do remember the lashing she got for this during SOUR: thank God the evil purple background witch is DEFEATED and TANKED while this queen is SMASHING her new makeup is what has her successful I stg
Space Cowboy Posted June 20 Posted June 20 27 minutes ago, Papi Juancho said: The fact that more than half of those allegations are right, including the industy plant and autoplay. You literally proved the point of her haters. 6 minutes ago, Kukai said: Period. The hype around Sabrina seems very artificial. When the payola ends I'll be curious to see if her "fans" will still be around. Look what happened to miss Dua Lipa There's nothing wrong with that. Her label saw potential in her and invested in her, and now that investment is paying off. Every popular artist has some degree of payola, no artist becomes popular on talent alone. But Payola can only do so much. If her music wasn't resonating with the gp and she wasn't genuinely charismaric, she wouldn't be smashing this hard right now.
MusicLoverDude Posted June 20 Posted June 20 I'm glad Sabrina is finally blowing up. She's worked hard for so many years
Donquizote Posted June 20 Posted June 20 It's too early to celebrate. We'll see how her album and tour do. Quick little single usually doesn't translate to album sales, longevity, and ticket sold
Julia Fox Posted June 20 Author Posted June 20 8 minutes ago, Donquizote said: It's too early to celebrate. We'll see how her album and tour do. Quick little single usually doesn't translate to album sales, longevity, and ticket sold We were talking about her proving ATRL wrong -yeah that includes you- but when all is said and done we will have this thread anyway but we know she has a solid fanbase to start with so I know she'll be fine anyway for a good amount of time unlike Dua that struggled to snatch one
Dialamba Posted June 20 Posted June 20 ATRL is always wrong but they were spot on with Dua at least Sabrina has the charisma so she might last
selena_lavigne Posted June 20 Posted June 20 I was always team Sabrina. Not the rewriting of history.
selena_lavigne Posted June 20 Posted June 20 I just wish her music was 3 notches better quality and then i'll stan.
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