DTF Posted June 20 Posted June 20 During Kesha's trial, texts from Gaga emerged wherein they both discussed Katy not being a girl's girl because she is a "mean girl". Taylor meanwhile had publicly warned the public about Katy's underhanded behaviors before generously making up with her after Witness tanked. Katy has been also been shown supporting right wing racists including Ben Shapiro, Nicki Minaj, and anti-abortion Republicans for election. However at the time ATRL vehemently attacked Gaga and Taylor for daring to speak their truths about Katy. Why was time the ultimate truth teller? 1
TitanicSurvivor Posted June 20 Posted June 20 5 minutes ago, DTF said: Why was time the ultimate truth teller? It's rhetorical? Either way i always had this feeling about Katy dk how to explain, but when you rewatching her old interviews the way she acts the way she speaks it's giving lady with a huge ego. She was better during TD era but then she went off the chain 3
ChooseyLover Posted June 20 Posted June 20 She's a bully. I'm surprised people haven't brought it up yet but during her debut era, she used Ur So Gay many times to call out the lead singer of Tokio Hotel, Bill Kaulitz. Mind you he was like 19 and in the closet and he hadn't figured out his sexuality. She was so mad because Tokio Hotel won a VMA Award over her. I tried to give her a pass many times but she's an all around terrible person. 12
Keeandga Posted June 20 Posted June 20 (edited) Probably but the same could be said about the rest of them once upon a time (except Kesha, I don't know much about her personality). Edited June 20 by Keeandga 1
Musicmajor Posted June 20 Posted June 20 How anyone has the time, mental space and energy to continue to talk about these people daily is insane to me. 2 1 6
Dark Miracles Posted June 20 Posted June 20 (edited) No if anything those texts expose how insincere and self-involved Kesha and Lady Gaga are. "I think she was raped too but she won't say it, she's so mean" This is beyond silly Edited June 20 by Dark Miracles 12 2 20
Migs Posted June 20 Posted June 20 I think the huge success of Teenage Dream got to her head and made her become too competitive and desperate to stay on top. Her momentum started to die down during Prism and then came Witness. Everything after that just felt forced. Her performances, her music videos, her style, her desperation to go viral. NRO was definitely a nice step in the right direction, but then came Small Talk and the weakest of her albums, Smile, which felt very much like a TD rehash with way less quality. She'll keep on trying to compete with the new it girls and match the success of TD, hence she'll always keep doing the same 2009/2010 sound, which is not the right direction to her. 3
lg6chromatica Posted June 20 Posted June 20 6 minutes ago, Dark Miracles said: Anyone who feels those text messages don't show Kesha and Lady Gaga in a very negative light is batshit crazy. "I think she was raped too but she won't say it, she's so mean" This is beyond silly of them One of the most revealing moments in pop culture of the last 10 years in my opinion with regards to celebs exposing how insincere and self-involved they are That's not what they said. 1
perfect blue Posted June 20 Posted June 20 News flash: they're all ruthless, opportunistic, and hypocritical! 5 22
Reginald Posted June 20 Posted June 20 7 minutes ago, Dark Miracles said: "I think she was raped too but she won't say it, she's so mean" That's not what was said, though. "Was crying a lot today and needed my mom. I'm really upset with Katy Perry," Kesha told Gaga in the February 26, 2016 exchange, as revealed by Radar Online. "[Katy] could bring the whole thing to a head … She was raped by the same man. She is probably really afraid to lose everything." "U are really strong standing up to him, she's not as strong as u yet," Gaga replied. "Have you talked to her? "[You're] right," Kesha said. "I need to find sympathy and empathy for her. She's so mean. It's hard." "Do you want me to see if I can talk to her?" Gaga said. "I know she's mean." https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/lady-gaga-called-katy-perry-mean-in-text-messages-to-kesha/GEXK7FUK7KFII6DUWTCJ5H7QOQ/ 3 7 1
KatyPrismSpirit Posted June 20 Posted June 20 Kesha being right about Katy. The irony of that sentence is crazy. I'm not even going to get into it lol. And Katy is not a bully. Katy can be blunt and shady every now and then but that's literally common practice in the music industry? You are acting like those beefs with Gaga and Taylor didn't start with them to begin with. And now they already squashed their differences and are friends? All parties involved acknowledged that their beefs were dumb and they were just young. 7 11
zweigson Posted June 20 Posted June 20 tbh i think they were all just jealous that she was soloing them all on the charts at the time
SylMacPer Posted June 20 Posted June 20 23 minutes ago, DTF said: During Kesha's trial, texts from Gaga emerged wherein they both discussed Katy not being a girl's girl because she is a "mean girl". Taylor meanwhile had publicly warned the public about Katy's underhanded behaviors before generously making up with her after Witness tanked. Katy has been also been shown supporting right wing racists including Ben Shapiro, Nicki Minaj, and anti-abortion Republicans for election. However at the time ATRL vehemently attacked Gaga and Taylor for daring to speak their truths about Katy. Why was time the ultimate truth teller? When did you join ATRL, cause Katy is being targeted by everyone non-stop for more than a decade! And the Monsters' beef with Katy didn't start because of the Kesha/Luke thing… We all know how that fanbase got their trauma in the first place! 2
bebinna Posted June 20 Posted June 20 Kesha added to her trial Katy out of nowhere and also that was proven that Kesha was lying about dr luke r worded Katy. It's her own fault. What about Gaga, she was always hateful towards Katy the 2013 chart battle made her even more jealous, Taylor used Katy for her hit Bad Blood bc she had no idea how to write a song that is not about her ex… Katy is always the victim of GP and twinks on Twitter! 1 1 13
Marry The Gods Posted June 20 Posted June 20 I'm going to be completely realistic. Gaga does not give a damn about these pop feuds. Her and Katy are supportive of each other now. I'm disappointed at Katy for working with Dr Luke too but please do not bring up Gaga into unnecessary drama that has nothing to do with her. Gaga isn't some bimbo in her 30s who holds grudges towards other pop stars and sabotages them. I'm sure she respects Kesha but she will not get involved in this petty drama. 4
KatyPrismSpirit Posted June 20 Posted June 20 11 minutes ago, Reginald said: That's not what was said, though. "Was crying a lot today and needed my mom. I'm really upset with Katy Perry," Kesha told Gaga in the February 26, 2016 exchange, as revealed by Radar Online. "[Katy] could bring the whole thing to a head … She was raped by the same man. She is probably really afraid to lose everything." "U are really strong standing up to him, she's not as strong as u yet," Gaga replied. "Have you talked to her? "[You're] right," Kesha said. "I need to find sympathy and empathy for her. She's so mean. It's hard." "Do you want me to see if I can talk to her?" Gaga said. "I know she's mean." https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/lady-gaga-called-katy-perry-mean-in-text-messages-to-kesha/GEXK7FUK7KFII6DUWTCJ5H7QOQ/ this is even worse 4 2 1
halcyonday Posted June 20 Posted June 20 I get that Katy is stupid and rich, but it feels like no one tries to even understand her pov? She was thrown into the drama between her friends of many years, Kesha AND Luke. Then there were allegations that she was also raped and conversations that took place behind her back. Let's remember that it all took place when she was struggling with fame, with who "Katy Perry" really was, she was overworked from 2008-2014 AND a worldwide tour AND even constant fight for a label deal before her debut album... There were these obvious shades from Gaga during 2013-2014, then Taylor made the dancers drama when Katy just let her previous dancing crew know that she'd be soon touring and she was pit against all of these huge pop girlies and it was probably hard for her, especially when Taylor tried to paint her as a devil for the dancers drama in Bad Blood and the entire "female squad" thing in 2015. I'm not saying what she's doing now is correct, but things have been confusing and overwhelming for her and I can imagine it's hard being at the top when everything you do and say is in the spotlight. 2 3
burninredhot Posted June 20 Posted June 20 Didn't she publically shade quite a few legends and icons like Mariah and Britney without any reason except just for some giggles. For me the funniest part is the compilation of shady tweets Katy made during her feud with Taylor in 2014/2015 and all of them coming back to bite her instead 1
Space Cowboy Posted June 20 Posted June 20 Didn't Kesha LIE in that same conversation saying that Katy was raped by Dr. Luke and then dragged her for not "coming forward". They were serving 2 delusional besties telling each other "exactlyyyyy" 12 7
Marry The Gods Posted June 20 Posted June 20 8 minutes ago, Space Cowboy said: Didn't Kesha LIE in that same conversation saying that Katy was raped by Dr. Luke and then dragged her for not "coming forward". They were serving 2 delusional besties telling each other "exactlyyyyy" kesha's mom and her lawyer Mark also lied about dr. luke raping gaga They made this accusation after the date of those text messages in which case it seems like Gaga has distance herself from that legal drama. 7 4
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