Démodé Posted June 20 Posted June 20 1 minute ago, dumbsparce said: Just delete every piece of media if you're so concerned with ppl with questionable morals being in the entertainment biz. The hypocrisy has gone off the rails. Because there are no decent people in any industry? That's kinda reductive.
halcyonday Posted June 20 Author Posted June 20 1 minute ago, Démodé said: She got a free pass for being antifeminist, racist, Republican, and pro-Israel (she recently LIKED a post by Bella Hadid, wow, so groundbreaking). She will get a pass for anything. i didnt know that
Démodé Posted June 20 Posted June 20 Just now, halcyonday said: i didnt know that She refused to cancel an Israel show years ago despite pleas of fans because "music brings us together" and other hippie stuff. There's a thread in here with a title Lana comes out as pro-Palestine because she LIKED Hadid's post.
RideOrDie Posted June 20 Posted June 20 2 minutes ago, Démodé said: She refused to cancel an Israel show years ago despite pleas of fans because "music brings us together" and other hippie stuff. There's a thread in here with a title Lana comes out as pro-Palestine because she LIKED Hadid's post. she literally cancelled that show, but please continue talking nonsense and living in delululand 3
Communion Posted June 20 Posted June 20 (edited) 38 minutes ago, manuelalex9810 said: that fake wokes Katy is trying to use her celebrity to re-normalize and bring back a rapist to the industry and her fans in response are adopting far-right, reactionary language about "wokeness" to avoid the conversation at hand. Genuinely growing to resent her and so many of you for doing this rape apologia and hating women. And I say this as someone who has disliked Lana and continually voiced criticism about her for years at this point over her glorifying domestic violence, as someone who has experienced such. Your critiques don't articulate what you're hoping they do. Edited June 20 by Communion 4 1 1
Démodé Posted June 20 Posted June 20 2 minutes ago, RideOrDie said: she literally cancelled that show, but please continue talking nonsense and living in delululand I apologise for stating sth that was not legit, but I specifically remember her press release to the uproar. So I retract the not cancelling bit, but not the "music will bring peace" apolitical s**t. https://medium.com/@rafaelshimunov/unsettling-lana-del-reys-israel-palestine-statement-2c1f967177d1
dumbsparce Posted June 20 Posted June 20 8 minutes ago, Démodé said: Because there are no decent people in any industry? That's kinda reductive. How does one qualify as decent though? Have you never said or done anything despicable in your lifetime? Does that call for your eradication from the planet? Please.
halcyonday Posted June 20 Author Posted June 20 1 minute ago, Communion said: Katy is trying to use her celebrity to re-normalize and bring back a rapist to the industry and her fans in response are adopt far-right, reactionary language about "wokeness" to avoid the conversation at hand. Genuinely growing to resent her and so many of you for doing this rape apologia and hating women. many of us already dragged her ass (she deserves)
VeniceBeach Posted June 20 Posted June 20 Do I need to explain the difference between Lana and Katy as artists and how people perceive them? Lana is a very talented songwriter/producer who always creates solid and critically acclaimed works, and Katy is a generic ex-pop star who ran to a rapist a second after the trial was over in an attempt to get a #1 hit. And in a year where artists like Beyoncé are doing collabs with Travis Scott many already turn a blind eye to girls working with "problematic" artists, but working with a rapist and singing about women's empowerment is a whole different level. 1 2 2
Démodé Posted June 20 Posted June 20 Just now, dumbsparce said: How does one qualify as decent though? Have you never said or done anything despicable in your lifetime? Does that call for your eradication from the planet? Please. I don't see anyone asking for eradication, I definitely am not. I (we) ask for some accountability of sorts. And yes I've done plenty mistakes and said hurtful things which is only human. But I'm not a millionaire with a huge platform and a mainly queer target audience.
halcyonday Posted June 20 Author Posted June 20 Just now, VeniceBeach said: Do I need to explain the difference between Lana and Katy as artists and how people perceive them? Lana is a very talented songwriter/producer who always creates solid and critically acclaimed works, and Katy is a generic ex-pop star who ran to a rapist a second after the trial was over in an attempt to get a #1 hit. And in a year where artists like Beyoncé are doing collabs with Travis Scott many already turn a blind eye to girls working with "problematic" artists, but working with a rapist and singing about women's empowerment is a whole different level. So creating acclaimed music excuses working with trash people? That's an interesting point. 2
RideOrDie Posted June 20 Posted June 20 2 minutes ago, Démodé said: I apologise for stating sth that was not legit, but I specifically remember her press release to the uproar. So I retract the not cancelling bit, but not the "music will bring peace" apolitical s**t. https://medium.com/@rafaelshimunov/unsettling-lana-del-reys-israel-palestine-statement-2c1f967177d1 look wbk she is a privileged rich LA girlie living in a bubble, but none of that means she is a zionist, pro israel, racist or antifeminist please don't use such important social issues in an accusatory way toward anyone unless they have proven themselves to be these things, especially when it took years for people to stop misunderstanding her and her intentions. she'd not have become the loved and respected artist she is today if she were to be any one of those things...
Démodé Posted June 20 Posted June 20 1 minute ago, RideOrDie said: look wbk she is a privileged rich LA girlie living in a bubble, but none of that means she is a zionist, pro israel, racist or antifeminist please don't use such important social issues in an accusatory way toward anyone unless they have proven themselves to be these things, especially when it took years for people to stop misunderstanding her and her intentions. she'd not have become the loved and respected artist she is today if she were to be any one of those things... You know that the last sentence is untrue cause every (celebrity) persona can be manufactured top to bottom. When you're apolitical towards major social issues - and she has proven she is, you just accept the politics that's being imposed on you. Have you forgotten all those posts against other female artists she's done over the years? Or the "i have black friends" insta post? I never said Zionist, I said pro Israel cause you accept to participate at any event there, you might be involuntarily complicit. And she has not said a word for Palestine all these fkn 9 months. Mind you, I do not make these "accusations" light-heartedly, and they do not only apply to Lana, they can apply to a lot of our faves.
VeniceBeach Posted June 20 Posted June 20 6 minutes ago, halcyonday said: So creating acclaimed music excuses working with trash people? That's an interesting point. Yes. Katy is and will never be respected as an artist, that's why I mentioned Beyonce and how everyone forgot about that collab. And they will forget about Lana's too. Maybe it's not fair but I won't feel sorry for a Dr. Luke apologist 1
RideOrDie Posted June 20 Posted June 20 1 minute ago, Démodé said: You know that the last sentence is untrue cause every (celebrity) persona can be manufactured top to bottom. When you're apolitical towards major social issues - and she has proven she is, you just accept the politics that's being imposed on you. Have you forgotten all those posts against other female artists she's done over the years? Or the "i have black friends" insta post? I never said Zionist, I said pro Israel cause you accept to participate at any event there, you might be involuntarily complicit. And she has not said a word for Palestine all these fkn 9 months. Mind you, I do not make these "accusations" light-heartedly, and they do not only apply to Lana, they can apply to a lot of our faves. not the manufactured point when that was like the first criticism toward her, she is one of the realest celebrities out there. she has done one post about other female artists and it wasn't against them, most of those people were her friends. camila, ariana, kehlani etc. they were/are still friends. the post wasn't about hating on anyone else. yes i remember that "i have black friends" post, it was more so "i had black boyfriends" i'd say that's her worst offence in terms of being out of touch and it wasn't good, she was on a lot of painkillers talking nonsense that year, she was mad people kept calling her racist, but we know she is not a racist person, she might have had a moment or two with subconscious microaggressions but she doesn't mean harm to anyone, it just shows she is another privileged and ignorant celebrity that's all. she always tries to do better as a person, for example she has donated all the profits from her poetry book to native american organizations because she found out about something personal regarding her family, something about her ancestors we don't know much about. even though it wasn't her fault and she didn't have to do anything about it, she is trying to balance the karma by giving back. just one example.
Price of Fame Posted June 20 Posted June 20 Imagine deflecting so hard for someone as talentless as Katy Perry 1 5 1
Bosque Posted June 20 Posted June 20 The public does not have the capacity to remember who Quavo even is, let alone what he's supposed to have done wrong. This will be ignored by everyone except a very loud corner in Twitter, just like when Katy collabed with him
halcyonday Posted June 20 Author Posted June 20 Just now, Price of Fame said: Imagine deflecting so hard for someone as talentless as Katy Perry i'm not deflecting, wtf? Katy deserves her lashings but I'm asking what about Lana and her collab with a homophobe. What's not clicking? It's you deflecting now. 2
Aethereal Posted June 20 Posted June 20 55 minutes ago, halcyonday said: Worse, it was produced by jack antanoff btw i didnt know lana worked with quavo on her 5x grammy nominated album oh oh RideOrDie is also a Gaga stan. Drag the Jewels and Drugs songstress. 2
OrgVisual Posted June 20 Posted June 20 46 minutes ago, Communion said: Katy is trying to use her celebrity to re-normalize and bring back a rapist to the industry and her fans in response are adopting far-right, reactionary language about "wokeness" to avoid the conversation at hand. Genuinely growing to resent her and so many of you for doing this rape apologia and hating women. And I say this as someone who has disliked Lana and continually voiced criticism about her for years at this point over her glorifying domestic violence, as someone who has experienced such. Your critiques don't articulate what you're hoping they do. Which has nothing to do with this topic. The topic is about Katy being dragged for working with Quavo, and should Lana be treated the same? Dr. Luke is not relevant here 2
Pheromosa Posted June 20 Posted June 20 I mean after her racist rant that everyone moved on from immediately, we should be used to it
JO1s Posted June 20 Posted June 20 Katy got backlash for being cringe. However Lana doesn't get backlash for stanning Morgan wallen, platforming Camila
JO1s Posted June 20 Posted June 20 33 minutes ago, Price of Fame said: Imagine deflecting so hard for someone as talentless as Katy Perry Lana is equally as talentless. 1
manuelalex9810 Posted June 20 Posted June 20 54 minutes ago, Communion said: Katy is trying to use her celebrity to re-normalize and bring back a rapist to the industry and her fans in response are adopting far-right, reactionary language about "wokeness" to avoid the conversation at hand. Genuinely growing to resent her and so many of you for doing this rape apologia and hating women. And I say this as someone who has disliked Lana and continually voiced criticism about her for years at this point over her glorifying domestic violence, as someone who has experienced such. Your critiques don't articulate what you're hoping they do. I called them fake wokes because it's pure hypocrisy Lady GaGa still working with her abuser friend Richy, she gets a pass. Lana Del Rey working with an homophobic rapper, she gets a pass. Rihanna collaborates with Johnny Depp, she gets a pass. Beyoncé collaborating with The-Dream, she gets a pass. and I'm not deflecting, I'm just pointing out if you really care about the social issues the energy would have been the same when the news came out.
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