single Katy Perry - "Woman's World"

[Cas]

Remember when Katy and Capitol made the perfect roll outs?

[Cas]

Remember when Katy and Capitol made the perfect roll outs?

[FireFade]

5 minutes ago, Cas said:

Remember when Katy and Capitol made the perfect roll outs?

 

4 minutes ago, Cas said:

Remember when Katy and Capitol made the perfect roll outs?

 

4 minutes ago, Cas said:

Remember when Katy and Capitol made the perfect roll outs?

now we do 

[WonkieEye]

Nnn the more I listen to the leak the more it sounds like AI. Some of the pronunciation isn't like her but who knows. 

[CameraFlashes]

10 minutes ago, Cas said:

Remember when Katy and Capitol made the perfect roll outs?

her rollouts have been dead since Roar.....she didn't even want to release Dark Horse as a single at first

[aotwbys]

I really don't understand this idea that she could have worked with just Max Martin for this album. The guy hasn't worked that much with pop girls in the last seven years. Eternal Sunshine is sort of an exception to the rule.

[rihannasbe$tfrnd]

39 minutes ago, Cas said:

Remember when Katy and Capitol made the perfect roll outs?

It flopped sweaty. They really tried to persuade the GP and build up hype by paying all these tiktokers gushing about Katy and how they miss her. Baby no one fell for that  

 

we wanted more Teenage Dream (the song), instead she must have worked off the worst track on that album, "Who Am I Living For"…. 

[aotwbys]

It's kind of funny how every Gen Z person seems to want a new Teenage Dream from a married mother who hasn't made that kind of music in over a decade, but at the same time, they don't want it produced by the same people who actually made the original song. Makes total sense.

[SchmoodRing]

1 hour ago, CameraFlashes said:

her rollouts have been dead since Roar.....she didn't even want to release Dark Horse as a single at first

Still won't forgive for not releasing Walking On Air and Legendary Lovers

 

[SchmoodRing]

1 hour ago, aotwbys said:

I really don't understand this idea that she could have worked with just Max Martin for this album. The guy hasn't worked that much with pop girls in the last seven years. Eternal Sunshine is sort of an exception to the rule.

He is involved with this album though 

57 minutes ago, rihannasbe$tfrnd said:

It flopped sweaty. They really tried to persuade the GP and build up hype by paying all these tiktokers gushing about Katy and how they miss her. Baby no one fell for that  

The GP does like and miss her. She got the long black hair back. She's serving looks. The music and promo needs to be on point now too. 

[aotwbys]

12 minutes ago, SchmoodRing said:

He is involved with this album though 

It seems like Max Martin's collaboration with Dr. Luke on KP6 is a result of his connection through Kim's IJWAR. It seems likely that Dr. Luke invited Max Martin to work on the project. Max Martin hasn't done a full album with many pop girls in recent years, and even the collaboration with Ariana Grande started relatively recently. Given the timeline, I believe KP6 has been in development for a longer period of time. Dr. Luke was probably involved in the project first, and he invited Max to work on it. So it doesn't seem like she could have just called up Max on this independently. If she had the opportunity to work with Max Martin on Smile, there's no reason she wouldn't have done it. But I'm just guessing and it's all speculation.

[truth-over-factz]

1 minute ago, aotwbys said:

It seems like Max Martin's collaboration with Dr. Luke on KP6 is a result of his connection through Kim's IJWAR. It seems likely that Dr. Luke invited Max Martin to work on the project. Max Martin hasn't done a full album with many pop girls in recent years, and even the collaboration with Ariana Grande started relatively recently. Given the timeline, I believe KP6 has been in development for a longer period of time. Dr. Luke was probably involved in the project first, and he invited Max to work on it. So it doesn't seem like she could have just called up Max on this independently. If she had the opportunity to work with Max Martin on Smile, there's no reason she wouldn't have done it. But I'm just guessing and it's all speculation.

I don't think Dr. Luke invited Max. 

 

According to that Rolling Stones article, Katy was the one who assembled the team (i.e., Katy handpicked the producers for KP6). 

[mypaintoyou]

What's the worse that can happen to her 

she can't be more of a flop than she has been in the last decade 

so I'm glad she's going back to her comfort zone 

the sexy im confident kinda catchy 

[truth-over-factz]

Almost 100 pages on a 10 to 15-second snippet. 

 

Y'all need to sit tf down and stop overreacting. 

 

1) That insider on Twitter said the extended leak is fake. 

 

2) If it's not fake, then it actually isn't that bad. Not the strongest lead single, but let's stop acting like this is a Single Soon situation. 

 

Also, you guys are delusional if you think Katy's gonna scrap an already-filmed MV. 

 

Most of the GP is not on Twitter, and they're gonna eat this up if radio is on board, which Capitol will surely pump plenty of money into this campaign, especially considering Katy is their biggest artist. 

 

The straights don't give af about Dr. Luke. 

 

I think the album is going to be a success. 

 

Max, Dr. Luke, Stargate, Vaughn Oliver ... this is a dream team of pop-music producers. 

 

Yes, each one of them have a few clunkers, but they're all in the upper echelon of producers in the industry. 

 

Katy picked them because she knows they're the best. 

 

The one thing I'll sh*t on Katy on is this long-azz wait. 

 

Record labels think this slowly builds hype when, in reality, a long tease is a turnoff. 

[aotwbys]

Yeah, she definitely assembled a dream team, regardless of anyone's opinion. I'm glad she didn't just recycle Harleys and NRO for this project. I personally don't have a strong preference for her more low-key material. Rehashing her Teenage Dream sound for a reintroduction might have been a good choice before releasing this blockbuster album, though.

[katyfinek2001]

On X it is a one minute snippet of Save Me Some Tonight. This is true? That's sound amazing! 

[Galah]

3 minutes ago, katyfinek2001 said:

On X it is a one minute snippet of Save Me Some Tonight. This is true? That's sound amazing! 

Again, it's an extension made with Udio (specifically made to prove how easy it is to do).

[Galah]

25 minutes ago, aotwbys said:

It seems like Max Martin's collaboration with Dr. Luke on KP6 is a result of his connection through Kim's IJWAR. It seems likely that Dr. Luke invited Max Martin to work on the project. Max Martin hasn't done a full album with many pop girls in recent years, and even the collaboration with Ariana Grande started relatively recently. Given the timeline, I believe KP6 has been in development for a longer period of time. Dr. Luke was probably involved in the project first, and he invited Max to work on it. So it doesn't seem like she could have just called up Max on this independently. If she had the opportunity to work with Max Martin on Smile, there's no reason she wouldn't have done it. But I'm just guessing and it's all speculation.

Sessions with Max Martin don't come cheap, even for someone like Katy Perry. Keep in mind in 2018 she was very much still dealing with the fallout from Witness and in 2019 she was just shopping for writing camp demos that she could tweak and release as droplet singles to get her name back out there (hence how songs like "Never Really Over", "Small Talk", and "Harleys In Hawaii" came to be). Smile was a very different process for her because she didn't go in with an album-first mindset and it really was just a playlist of songs she'd accumulated between 2018-2020. Coupled with the pandemic and her pregnancy and Katy's inability to tour, I gather the label didn't see any point in investing in Max Martin collaborations when they could get much cheaper material from less blockbuster writers and producers.

 

This time around, it's clear that no expense has been spared in order to ensure Katy's comeback is a success—or at least that's the plan. Getting Max back for the first time since Witness, getting Luke back for the first time since PRISM, sure Katy can have a vision and want this to happen, but ultimately someone has to pay the bill. I do wonder if Katy is investing some of her own money into this era, and thus reuniting with these pop heavy-hitters has only been made possible by the selling of her catalog to Litmus. She gained $225M out of that deal after all, I can't imagine Max and Luke's fees would make too much of a dent in that.

[truth-over-factz]

4 minutes ago, Aurora said:

Sessions with Max Martin don't come cheap, even for someone like Katy Perry. Keep in mind in 2018 she was very much still dealing with the fallout from Witness and in 2019 she was just shopping for writing camp demos that she could tweak and release as droplet singles to get her name back out there (hence how songs like "Never Really Over", "Small Talk", and "Harleys In Hawaii" came to be). Smile was a very different process for her because she didn't go in with an album-first mindset and it really was just a playlist of songs she'd accumulated between 2018-2020. Coupled with the pandemic and her pregnancy and Katy's inability to tour, I gather the label didn't see any point in investing in Max Martin collaborations when they could get much cheaper material from less blockbuster writers and producers.

 

This time around, it's clear that no expense has been spared in order to ensure Katy's comeback is a success—or at least that's the plan. Getting Max back for the first time since Witness, getting Luke back for the first time since PRISM, sure Katy can have a vision and want this to happen, but ultimately someone has to pay the bill. I do wonder if Katy is investing some of her own money into this era, and thus reuniting with these pop heavy-hitters has only been made possible by the selling of her catalog to Litmus. She gained $225M out of that deal after all, I can't imagine Max and Luke's fees would make too much of a dent in that.

If somebody like a Conan Gray can afford Max Martin AND Ilya, then I wouldn't worry about Katy Perry who arguably has significantly more money behind her than Conan. 

[aotwbys]

1 minute ago, Aurora said:

Sessions with Max Martin don't come cheap, even for someone like Katy Perry. Keep in mind in 2018 she was very much still dealing with the fallout from Witness and in 2019 she was just shopping for writing camp demos that she could tweak and release as droplet singles to get her name back out there (hence how songs like "Never Really Over", "Small Talk", and "Harleys In Hawaii" came to be). Smile was a very different process for her because she didn't go in with an album-first mindset and it really was just a playlist of songs she'd accumulated between 2018-2020. Coupled with the pandemic and her pregnancy and Katy's inability to tour, I gather the label didn't see any point in investing in Max Martin collaborations when they could get much cheaper material from less blockbuster writers and producers.

 

This time around, it's clear that no expense has been spared in order to ensure Katy's comeback is a success—or at least that's the plan. Getting Max back for the first time since Witness, getting Luke back for the first time since PRISM, sure Katy can have a vision and want this to happen, but ultimately someone has to pay the bill. I do wonder if Katy is investing some of her own money into this era, and thus reuniting with these pop heavy-hitters has only been made possible by the selling of her catalog to Litmus. She gained $225M out of that deal after all, I can't imagine Max and Luke's fees would make too much of a dent in that.

I hope everything goes smoothly. I honestly don't think people will focus too much on the Dr. Luke controversy, and I believe he has become more reliable over the years, despite working with artists who don't have massive fandoms. The charts seem very stagnant nowadays. If this song doesn't perform well, I guess there's always the next one.

 

She played it both risky and safe. People are asking for her to stick to her signature California Santa Barbara lovey dovey shtick, but instead, she goes for a cool robot persona. It's a strange choice, but she managed to pick the right producers, so.

[truth-over-factz]

I'm honestly shocked at all the pessimism surrounding Katy from the so-called diehard fans. 

 

Fans and journalists who were invited to the listening party praised what they heard. 

 

And I'm very confident in the quality of this upcoming project when I think of the producers behind it and their track records. 

 

Kim Petras' Coconuts & Future Starts Now are iconic (Dr. Luke & Vaughn Oliver)

 

Latto's Big Energy (Vaughn Oliver)

 

Slayyyter's Out of Time (Vaughn Oliver)

 

Diamonds, Firework, What's My Name? (Stargate)

 

Max Martin ... you know what he's done. 

 

There's no reason to be Negative Nancy over a 10-second snippet. 

 

We are about to feast. 

 

BON APPETIT, BAY-BEHHH 

 

Edited June 20 by truth-over-factz

[KatysPrism]

atp idk if promo is gonna save this era, the only reason locals would've given katy a chance was if the gays & pop fans got behind her.. now they're all mad at her, they're gonna attack her at every chance, not just on the internet but irl when someone mentions her. 

so locals who are mostly into r&b and rap nowadays aren't gonna consume someone who isn't even being supported by their target audience. 

 

i don't doubt the music will be good thought. 

Edited June 20 by KatysPrism

[candytheicon]

I wonder what Katy was thinking, There are sooooo many other producers she could work with, Zedd for example works really well with her but she decides to crawl back to Luke?? She could easily have her 10th #1 without him she just needs the CONFIDENCE. it's not about the producer, if she properly promoted never really over or if she made cry about it later a single and was confident in her decisions they could have easily gone #1. I don't get what she is thinking?? obviously people will hate on her for this decision, it's just very dumb.

[KatyPrismSpirit]

15 hours ago, Communion said:

Songs that Dr. Luke has produced for pop girls that have charted on the Hot 100:

 

2015 - None

2016 - "Ain't Your Mama" - Jennifer Lopez, #76

2017 - None

2018 - None

2019 - None

2020 - None

2021 - None

2022 - None

2023 - "Alone" by Kim Petras, #55

2024 - None

 

Please for the love of God stop acting like this man is some hot commodity who Katy has had no choice but to align with. He has only been "embraced' by rappers with said rappers being The Kid Laroi of all people and slithering his way onto a dead artist's album whom never worked with him while alive, all to be now best known for producing a Lil Durk single.

 

He has tried to force his work onto female rappers with even people like Saweetie and Tay Money saying they had no clue who he was and that the beats they got came from bundles their label purchased for them from work with people like Theron Thomas or LunchMoney Lewis. His biggest act - Doja - hates him and outright said he didn't work on songs he was credited for because she was upset at the reality that such vanity credits take away from the production work she does. 

 

This man is forced upon the industry with his MLM scheme ass publishing company despite being a washed up creepy old dude skulking in the background and corner of photos that RX Songs female millennial staffers post on social media of writing camp trips to Cabo and company wide dinners at fancy LA restaurants. 

 

Katy hedging her bets and career on this man of all people shows she still has no clue why people actually enjoy her music. 

This literally being fake news lmao

[aotwbys]

It's important to be fair though, I don't want her to be constantly compared to her insane run of #1 hits from a decade ago. People's expectations for her are ridiculously high for no reason. She went from being labeled as a has-been, Hitless and fadty to suddenly being expected to revive pop perfection in 2024. It's quite a turnaround.

 

It's better for her to make a strong comeback that surprises people with low expectations rather than having people with high expectations respond with 'that's it?' There are bound to be some biased critics who'll be ready to criticize the album due to Dr. Luke's involvement. Even though I'm confident it'll be pop magic, many people will still take notice of negative reviews from figures like Fantano. It seems silly, but appearances matter these days.