OrgVisual Posted July 12 Posted July 12 (edited) 3 minutes ago, VeniceBeach said: Weren't you comparing Katy's singles to Stupid Love a page ago? The standard is 5.6M streams, nothing less Stupid Love had a great debut, didn't it debut #4 on BB100? The problem is... we all know what happened after that I would rather have 700k debut and 500M streams total, than 5.6M debut and 300M total Edited July 12 by OrgVisual 2
ImpressMeMuch Posted July 12 Posted July 12 So if this is confirmed to be an Ava reject odds it was actually cut by her for Barbie and rejected? 1
halcyonday Posted July 12 Posted July 12 3 minutes ago, OrgVisual said: Stupid Love had a great debut, didn't it debut #4 on BB100? The problem is... we all know what happened after that Stupid Turd actually debuted with 84M playlisting... in 2020, so that was HUGE numbers. We're at 40M in 2024... This isn't the drag they think it is. 4 1 3
halcyonday Posted July 12 Posted July 12 4 minutes ago, ImpressMeMuch said: So if this is confirmed to be an Ava reject odds it was actually cut by her for Barbie and rejected? Ava never touched it
ImpressMeMuch Posted July 12 Posted July 12 why was this better she actually looks like she's having fun in it lol 4 1
applestar Posted July 12 Posted July 12 It's so hard to take the critics seriously, relistening and streaming WW, it's pretty good Can't wait for AI to snatch up music critics jobs 2 1
Rigalo Posted July 13 Posted July 13 This might do decent numbers in the first couple of days but the real tankery is yet to come
VeniceBeach Posted July 13 Posted July 13 2 minutes ago, Rigalo said: This might do decent numbers It's not doing that already
Breathe On Moi Posted July 13 Posted July 13 40 minutes ago, Communion said: Days between Positions & yes, and?: 1169 days Days between Smile & Woman's World: 1414 days thank, u next -> positions.= less success prism -> witness -> smile = less success Comparing Ariana & Katy really just highlights how huge of a mistake working with Luke was because, despite similar circumstances, Ariana was able to silence a largely negative cultural conversation around her via an acclaimed and successful album, while Katy sees all the years of built-up goodwill evaporate and turn into one of the worst backlashes in recent pop culture memory. Literally all because she decided to go record with Luke instead of the myriad of successful producers still producing #1 smashes! Could have literally been Katy!: Genuinely disappointing that someone as talented of a lyricist as Katy is seeing the final commercial prospects of her career as a pop singer burn due to THAT sex pest. look ok, you made points, I agree with you (omg), and of course it's incredibly frustrating..but also you have admit that people are doing absolutely too much, like beyond… the absolute glee you can tell in certain people's posts are actually borderline deranged Ari didn't deserve any of that either. the album is coming no matter what, so let's hear it..clearly there are bops. Smile had plenty and none of that man, ppl still took glee in burying her, so meh. 2
Souvenir Posted July 13 Posted July 13 why the haters are still in this thread? just say your opinion and gtfo!
Badgalbriel Posted July 13 Posted July 13 Aren't you guys super pissed that she worked with Luke for this? I'm so f-ing frustrated. If the song was at least a real banger.
Ramcoro Posted July 13 Posted July 13 1 hour ago, BlueBlue said: I saw comments under video that she is stuck in 2014 as a bad thing. Literally people wanted 2014 pop and she delivered it. If you liked Katy Perry back in the day this is the same thing she was doing 10 years ago. If you want deep meaning music idk listen to Mozart or something She can't win. It's as simple as that. She makes a new sound, people are like wtf. She goes back to old sound, people are like wtf.
Badgalbriel Posted July 13 Posted July 13 Just now, Ramcoro said: She can't win. It's as simple as that. She makes a new sound, people are like wtf. She goes back to old sound, people are like wtf. That's not true at all. Smile was panned because it was bad overall, but NRO, for example has always been loved. 365 was great GREAT too, and no one hated her for it. 1
fulgadrum Posted July 13 Posted July 13 Y'all sound like straight men talking football with all these numbers. If ya like it, goon in your peace. 3
Tistotal Posted July 13 Posted July 13 53 minutes ago, ImpressMeMuch said: why was this better she actually looks like she's having fun in it lol let's pretend this is KPSEX lead single 1 hour ago, OrgVisual said: Seems like we're getting 2.5 - 2.8M first day Which is great for her standards I would say 2.3M, a little bit less than Daisies. It's fine with the lack of Spotify promotion. My guess is less than 1M for next Friday. This will do Electric's numbers, bookmark me!
collin Posted July 13 Posted July 13 (edited) 3 minutes ago, fulgadrum said: Y'all sound like straight men talking football with all these numbers. If ya like it, goon in your peace. You new here? Edited July 13 by collin 1
Badgalbriel Posted July 13 Posted July 13 Just now, Horizon Flame said: this is too much, i'm sad about her. Even as an ex hater, I was rooting so much for her comeback 2
mercurialworld Posted July 13 Posted July 13 trisha paytas being the only celebrity cameo she could get for her big feminist return video says a lot about her place in pop 1 1 4 5
MatiRod Posted July 13 Posted July 13 It's kind of funny that Cher's "Woman's World" doesn't sound that dated because of the Robyn S esque synth that Beyonce also used recently.
BlueBlue Posted July 13 Posted July 13 I'm tired of this double standards. This isn't return of Dr Luke to music. He is producing music since kesha trial like before. Yet the only lashings from working with him are getting pop girls. People are like "wow I miss 2010 pop stars. why they are dissapear" and when any 2010 pop girl is doing something they are hating 1 1
OrgVisual Posted July 13 Posted July 13 She's def getting the Justin Timberlake treatment from the media
Ramcoro Posted July 13 Posted July 13 20 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said: That's not true at all. Smile was panned because it was bad overall, but NRO, for example has always been loved. 365 was great GREAT too, and no one hated her for it. But 365 flopped hard. Hard to say people loved it when they wouldn't listen to it
Tiago Gomes Posted July 13 Posted July 13 9 minutes ago, MatiRod said: It's kind of funny that Cher's "Woman's World" doesn't sound that dated because of the Robyn S esque synth that Beyonce also used recently. yes hahaha andkaty is SO OVER DATED
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