Communion Posted June 18 Posted June 18 27 minutes ago, Slim said: Again, there is no proof to this and putting myself in his shoes You know, except for contemporary testimony of Kesha telling people Luke drugged her and sexually assaulted her shortly after the time of the incident, as well as Luke's own corroborating testimony that he brought Kesha to the party in question. Dr. Luke threatened Kesha - as seen in documents logged into their various court cases - with ending her music career if she repeated said story to anyone again. One would think someone who didn't sexually assault someone would immediately cut ties with a person they claim was a liar who would dishonestly claim they committed sexual assault that apparently never happened. 13 1 1
Tyrion_LMG Posted June 18 Posted June 18 So this is what I think it happened: - We begged for info since Katy changed profile pics. We got NOTHING apart from some information from the listening party and insiders claiming the visuals were gorgeous. - Katy announces her lead single and posts a snippet. And here comes the mess. Suddently a one-minute snippet suddenly leaks and later the whole song does. Isn't it strange that after a month begging for info, everything leaks out of nowhere? - Besides, her manager claims the leak is false. The snippet is not even taken down, which is a clear sign that it's fake; otherwise they would have RUN to take it down. - Another problem is that some of you believe absolutely everything you read on the internet. A random user came here saying that it was an Ava Max reject and you automatically believed it. He had to admit he was trolling. - Let's see what happens when the Dr Luke rumors but at this point, I'm just going to stick to what's officially announced or stated by some REAL insiders, not random users pretending they know a ****. 7 5 1
Popular Post chriswouldman Posted June 18 Popular Post Posted June 18 some of you need to touch some grass. we all got it, you hate Katy endlessly, you hate the snippet, you hate the visuals. WE GOT IT. you don't have to live in this thread and write all your hatred ****. you posted it once, so now please move on. we don't need your hate, neither here nor somewhere else, keep it to yourself and do whatever you want to do with this. 20 4
Jarr1507 Posted June 18 Posted June 18 Wait, Woman's world kinda sounds like Teenage dream but instead of guitar it's synthesizers. 1
georgechxng Posted June 18 Posted June 18 1 minute ago, Tyrion_LMG said: So this is what I think it happened: - We begged for info since Katy changed profile pics. We got NOTHING apart from some information from the listening party and insiders claiming the visuals were gorgeous. - Katy announces her lead single and posts a snippet. And here comes the mess. Suddently a one-minute snippet suddenly leaks and later the whole song does. Isn't it strange that after a month begging for info, everything leaks out of nowhere? - Besides, her manager claims the leak is false. The snippet is not even taken down, which is a clear sign that it's fake; otherwise they would have RUN to take it down. - Another problem is that some of you believe absolutely everything you read on the internet. A random user came here saying that it was an Ava Max reject and you automatically believed it. He had to admit he was trolling. - Let's see what happens when the Dr Luke rumors but at this point, I'm just going to stick to what's officially announced or stated by some REAL insiders, not random users pretending they know a ****. it's kinda annoying that all of this took over the thread and kinda ruined the announcement day with tons of negativity and meltdowns but i also think cats have been frustrated with how long it took for her to announce the song and with all the visual leaks that happened, everyone assumed the worst lol 1
BrokenMachine Posted June 18 Posted June 18 36 minutes ago, Communion said: Dr. Luke has never been found innocent in a court of law of raping Kesha, precisely because he ensured he threatened her with retaliation up until any statute of limitations to report the assault ran out. Ironically the court case for Kesha's contract reaffirmed the chance that Luke could have indeed raped her because the judge argued that, in the chance that Luke did rape her, Kesha's ability to continue recording to fulfill her contractual duties was still possible because she could simply not have to be in the same room as her rapist. All of this. Some people without even knowing run quick to say 'he's innocent!!!1!'. Like, they could just focus on the music instead and stay silent about the case, but no, some will do anything to defend him to the point of spreading awful lies, like, he doesn't need anyone to defend him, he can do it on his own, and yet for some weird reason some ATRLers will try to defend him 2
Mordecai Posted June 18 Posted June 18 ...Why is Katy always held to a higher standard? I don't recall anyone else being critiqued over working with Dr Luke the way she does. I'm also sick and tired of the narrative that she doesn't make good songs and can't have a hit without him, there are a handful of songs considered amongst her best that were released before Witness with no involvement from him 58 minutes ago, selfmadelatino said: The way she's getting cooked on twitter and TikTok What are they saying? 4 1
chriswouldman Posted June 18 Posted June 18 Just now, georgechxng said: it's kinda annoying that all of this took over the thread and kinda ruined the announcement day with tons of negativity and meltdowns but i also think cats have been frustrated with how long it took for her to announce the song and with all the visual leaks that happened, everyone assumed the worst lol the fandom as itself is a problem. we don't have that many Kats left, but some of them are real rats, even some of them here posting in this thread. some of them really need to feel ASHAMED for their behavior and the stuff they keep posting everywhere. 3
ATRL Administrator Ryan Posted June 18 ATRL Administrator Posted June 18 1 minute ago, Mordecai said: I don't recall anyone else being critiqued over working with Dr Luke the way she does. For the record Nicki, Doja, Ava and others have been ruthlessly criticized for working with Luke. Some are obligated to bc they’re under his imprint but the ones who choose to or try to hide it by working with him under an alias have been dragged. 6 1 4
chriswouldman Posted June 18 Posted June 18 1 minute ago, Mordecai said: ...Why is Katy always held to a higher standard? I don't recall anyone else being critiqued over working with Dr Luke the way she does. I'm also sick and tired of the narrative that she doesn't make good songs and can't have a hit without him, there are a handful of songs considered amongst her best that were released before Witness with no involvement from him What are they saying? because they just can. they keep doing it. and some idiots in this fandom interact with these people, or, some of them even post hatred tweets. this is not how I see being a fan should be.
JEWRJEWR Posted June 18 Posted June 18 tbqh the leak is not the real issue, the snippet she posted is straight up 2010 lyrical grabage
JEWRJEWR Posted June 18 Posted June 18 3 minutes ago, Mordecai said: I don't recall anyone else being critiqued over working with Dr Luke the way she does. You must be new here 2
chriswouldman Posted June 18 Posted June 18 Just now, JEWRJEWR said: tbqh the leak is not the real issue, the snippet she posted is straight up 2010 lyrical grabage in this point, you're right. I really don't understand why she's chosen this part, specifically.
Slim Posted June 18 Posted June 18 Well if the people here and on twitter supported kesha eras after Dr.Luke she wouldn't be selling 4-5 copies making 0 noise. I am all here for KP and that snippet is a vibe, finally one of the girls is giving us HARD EDM, & ELECTRO BEATS again 3 10
Slim Posted June 18 Posted June 18 6 minutes ago, Mordecai said: ...Why is Katy always held to a higher standard? I don't recall anyone else being critiqued over working with Dr Luke the way she does. I'm also sick and tired of the narrative that she doesn't make good songs and can't have a hit without him, there are a handful of songs considered amongst her best that were released before Witness with no involvement from him What are they saying? Well, the only one who can't have a hit without him is, unfortunately, Spoiler Kesha 1 1 13
BrokenMachine Posted June 18 Posted June 18 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Mordecai said: I don't recall anyone else being critiqued over working with Dr Luke the way she does. Well, that's her own fault and also her stans fault to some extent. She took the 'feminist' flag and ditched L*ke back in the day, only for her to allegedly come back later. Then, if you ask the stans of some other artists who worked with him they're gonna agree he's trash, or that they don't care, or that their faves never took the flag of being a nice person to begin with, meanwhile some katycats will do the contrary saying there's nothing wrong with him acting like Luke stans instead of Katycats Edited June 18 by BrokenMachine 1
Nefertiti0 Posted June 18 Posted June 18 5 minutes ago, Ryan said: Ava and others have been ruthlessly criticized for working with Luke. Ava never worked with him
Mordecai Posted June 18 Posted June 18 Also do we know why the announcement and snippet was deleted from her tiktok? It's not there anymore but still up on insta
Uncatena Posted June 18 Posted June 18 16 minutes ago, Tyrion_LMG said: . A random user came here saying that it was an Ava Max reject and you automatically believed it. He had to admit he was trolling. well, tbf that says more about the quality of the song than anything <3 2
Uncatena Posted June 18 Posted June 18 Just now, Mordecai said: Also do we know why the announcement and snippet was deleted from her tiktok? It's not there anymore but still up on insta too many comments about her working with Dr. L*ke and creators can't hide/delete comments on TikTok, unlike IG
State of Grace. Posted June 18 Posted June 18 47 minutes ago, Headlock said: @Alfred is that you PLSS I was just gonna say it has to be one of Alfred's new dupes? Your first ever post on this forum being dedicatd to defending a rapist and screaming "there was no proof!" is wild 2
peacok Posted June 18 Posted June 18 7 minutes ago, Slim said: Well if the people here and on twitter supported kesha eras after Dr.Luke she wouldn't be selling 4-5 copies making 0 noise. I am all here for KP and that snippet is a vibe, finally one of the girls is giving us HARD EDM, & ELECTRO BEATS again There's always been so bias against Luke in the stan world simply because he was Katy's main producer but you don't see this same people streaming Kesha's music or care for her at all lbfr, like I said before we can see through Katy's haters, going crazy over a 15 sec snippets is nuts 1 4
PrismaticFluff Posted June 18 Posted June 18 Just now, ChapelHooker said: too many comments about her working with Dr. L*ke and creators can't hide/delete comments on TikTok, unlike IG i dont think it's that, i saw the comments and it was fine, the problem was the low engagement, it had like 30k likes 8 hours ago and 700k on instagram
chriswouldman Posted June 18 Posted June 18 1 minute ago, ChapelHooker said: too many comments about her working with Dr. L*ke and creators can't hide/delete comments on TikTok, unlike IG it's still there for me.
Popular Post Uncatena Posted June 18 Popular Post Posted June 18 (edited) 2 minutes ago, peacok said: There's always been so bias against Luke in the stan world simply because he was Katy's main producer but you don't see this same people streaming Kesha's music or care for her at all lbfr, like I said before we can see through Katy's haters, going crazy over a 15 sec snippets is nuts so, you have to be a Kesha "stan" now to believe and defend her/think that Katy working with him is unnecessary and disappointing at LEAST? the brain rot in this thread is INSANE the way I genuinely believe that some of y'all think this is a "stan war" when its about morals, ethics and calling out inappropriate actions and behavior... Edited June 18 by ChapelHooker 21 1
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