Doctor Dick Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 39 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said: OT: if they're gonna count the streams equivalent for the streaming era then they should figure out a way to count the countless times we watched videos on mtv and played their CDs till they scratched lol This. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumbsparce Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 12 minutes ago, Xtina23 said: ATRL user @Lana Banana - I keep getting notifications of you reacting to my posts and seeing several edits on your comments. I did not mean to make you sweat defending your itsbritneymeme receipts. You and @dumbsparce are free to use whichever fan page source makes you happy. xoxo Girl give it up. It's not about Britney stomping on tanktina anymore. That's a given. If you're gonna complain about miss Banana blowing your notifs up, maybe stop tagging people who have stopped arguing with you over well established facts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lana Banana Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 2 minutes ago, dumbsparce said: Girl give it up. It's not about Britney stomping on tanktina anymore. That's a given. If you're gonna complain about miss Banana blowing your notifs up, maybe stop tagging people who have stopped arguing with you over well established facts. The girl hasn't left the thread ever since it's been created. Not sure if she knows we can see that ¯\(ツ)/¯ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myah Marie Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 (edited) Say what you want about Britney and Taylor, but both of them knew and know how to market themselves so well. Britney was the model of a pop star and her influence is still visible nowadays, and even though she's not in activity anymore she still managed to have a top 10 hit in this decade (thanks to Elton too), have the best selling memoir in history and still being one of the most listened artists during the streaming era. And Taylor, whether you wanna admit it or not, she's a power force in music right now, having a big and diverse catalogue, a huge and strongful fanbase (similar to Michael Mania), and the highest grossing tour of all time, something that a lot of artists can't brag about. So while you're concerning about Britney dancing naked or with fakes knives and criticising Taylor for being overrated and blocking other artists to chart at 1# (which is a valid critique imho) they're still making the bank. Edited June 17 by Myah Marie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffy Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Avril Lavigne had the greatest potential. Her rise to fame but then quick descent into oblivion is tragic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakeyourbombom Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Shakira is such a legend. Having a 75% non-English discography and listed in the top 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedor Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 (edited) Beyonce's steady growth is really impressive. Too bad her sales will start to lag behind, she is not doing variants and this will her hurt her numbers when compared to others like Taylor, Billie, etc. Edited June 17 by Comedor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatiRod Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 (edited) Taylor appeals to a much wider audience because she has the singer-songwriter angle as well. I think what's made her so successful is that she combined the super glam, femme, diva pop star of Madonna, Britney etc with the confessional singer-songwriter credibility of an Alanis or Jewel. She has the best of both worlds, and so she appeals to the most amount of people. You get your super pop star fix, but you also get your singer-songwriter fix. Obviously, Madonna and Britney have their singer-songwriter moments, but they never really marketed themselves as that (maybe Madonna during American Life). She's also never marketed herself sexually which I think is quite noteworthy as it marks a real change in what constitutes the #1 female pop star since the days of Britney. Previously when the industry marketed a female pop star being able to 'serve sex' was a big requirement, every other girl that vied for that title had that element, from Katy to Gaga to Rihanna, they all had their sexy videos and performances, but Taylor never did. She kind of single-handedly proved you don't need that anymore and you're seeing it in the younger crop of artists now. Edited June 17 by MatiRod 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lana Banana Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 1 minute ago, MatiRod said: Taylor appeals to a much wider audience because she has the singer-songwriter angle as well. I think what's made her so successful is that she combined the super glam, femme, diva pop star of Madonna, Britney etc with the confessional singer-songwriter credibility of an Alanis or Jewel. She has the best of both worlds, and so she appeals to the most amount of people. You get your super pop star fix, but you also get your singer-songwriter fix. Obviously, Madonna and Britney have their singer-songwriter moments, but they never really marketed themselves as that (maybe Madonna during American Life). Madonna's Ray of Light says hello 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatiRod Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 1 minute ago, Lana Banana said: Madonna's Ray of Light says hello Don't get me wrong I stan 100% and she is just as much a songwriter as Taylor, I'm just talking about the way they're perceived by the public. Madonna has never been able to shake the 'Material Girl' image and the cone bras and being this larger than life controversy artiste, the way people think of her has never been "auteur sitting in her attic writing songs". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lana Banana Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MatiRod said: Don't get me wrong I stan 100% and she is just as much a songwriter as Taylor, I'm just talking about the way they're perceived by the public. Madonna has never been able to shake the 'Material Girl' image and the cone bras and being this larger than life controversy artiste, the way people think of her has never been "auteur sitting in her attic writing songs". I get what you're saying but it's obvious you weren't alive for Erotica to Ray of Light to Music to American Life to Confessions. Taylor could never pull that off. Ever. Edited June 17 by Lana Banana 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_vocal_technique Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Xtina at number 12 after neglecting her music career for so many years is surprising. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilsRollTheDice Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 26 minutes ago, Lana Banana said: I get what you're saying but it's obvious you weren't alive for Erotica to Ray of Light to Music to American Life to Confessions. Taylor could never pull that off. Ever. Let's get you to bed, Grandma. And Madonna couldn't do folklore & evermore or any of Taylor's country discography. Different strengths. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lana Banana Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 26 minutes ago, DevilsRollTheDice said: Let's get you to bed, Grandma. And Madonna couldn't do folklore & evermore or any of Taylor's country discography. Different strengths. Um, okay with the "grandma" assumptions. Of course Madonna couldn't do it, she's not basic. Name me a difference between folklore and evermore. Quickly. Madonna has Erotica, Bedtime Stories, Ray of Light, Music, American Life, Confessions alone under her belt. Not to mention the tours. What does Taylor have? Millions of teenage girls in cocktail dresses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatinFreak Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Aww my little local latin fave from the favelas of south America up there with all the major Anglo pop girls. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend ReX Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 2 hours ago, Buffy said: Avril Lavigne had the greatest potential. Her rise to fame but then quick descent into oblivion is tragic. THIS. I think she had more impact on fashion than any other female artist in the 00s. You couldn't escape the emo-goth chic in '02-'03. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheromosa Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 is this list accurate? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Pop Queen Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 (edited) 3 hours ago, Comedor said: Beyonce's steady growth is really impressive. Too bad her sales will start to lag behind, she is not doing variants and this will her hurt her numbers when compared to others like Taylor, Billie, etc. is this a serious post? Like fr? Like, absolutely no one is gonna care if her sales "lag behind" in whatever metric or tactic they'll be using in the coming years to measure so-called popularity. None of that is gonna erase the fact that she is now seen as a certified legend. The young girls are trying to get to her status, she ain't competing with them. To someone like Beyoncé and other older acts, "variants" are for anniversaries. Edited June 17 by Soda Pop Queen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina23 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 33 minutes ago, Pheromosa said: is this list accurate? idk gurlllll... the OP used itsbritneymeme as the source. Take it as you will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Pop Queen Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Not Beyoncé still managing to be in the top 5 despite her lack of excessive promo in the last 13 years. It's almost as if a well rounded music career and platform hinges on more than just sales. Quality and consistency matter just as much. She really set herself up nicely in her youth to be able to do whatever she wanted after age 30. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbitch Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 5 hours ago, Xtina23 said: Source: itsbritneymeme... Always a Cristina stan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirrtydiana Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 (edited) 3 hours ago, MatiRod said: Taylor appeals to a much wider audience because she has the singer-songwriter angle as well. But the GP doesn't see her as either of those and Madonna grew into her writing as her career flourished and is known as singer songwriter Edited June 17 by dirrtydiana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teresaguidice Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 24 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said: But the GP doesn't see her as either of those the GP doesn't see taylor swift as a songwriter? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirrtydiana Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 (edited) 31 minutes ago, teresaguidice said: the GP doesn't see taylor swift as a songwriter? Nor a vocalist They know she writes but do not hold her to the extent this forum or her fans do Edited June 17 by dirrtydiana 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Jacobs Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 6 hours ago, By the Water said: Britney debuted at the height of album sales... The fact that Taylor passed her speaks volume about the gap in their popularity Taylor has double the albums. And i don't even begin to count the variants. We'll get to three digits number. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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