FolkLover1989 Posted June 16 Posted June 16 It had 14 variants debut week plus sign variants so by Atrl logic it obviously will debut high 6 1 16
Talento Posted June 16 Author Posted June 16 (edited) 3 minutes ago, FolkLover1989 said: It had 14 variants debut week plus sign variants so by Atrl logic it obviously will debut high It did more than Dua in streams though. Without TTH unlike Radical Optimism! Edited June 16 by Talento 2 1
FolkLover1989 Posted June 16 Posted June 16 2 minutes ago, Talento said: It more than Dua in streams though. Without TTH unlike Radical Optimism! Doesn't it have more tracks ? So by atrl logic it obv will have more streams 1 4
halcyonday Posted June 16 Posted June 16 gagged @ brat outdoing it in streams (houdini had 130m playlist reach for half a year) 2 2
Popular Post Talento Posted June 16 Author Popular Post Posted June 16 (edited) 4 minutes ago, FolkLover1989 said: Doesn't it have more tracks ? So by atrl logic it obv will have more streams By other ATRLers logic Brat having variants and bonus tracks just means she has demand because nobody's forced to listen/buy them Edited June 16 by Talento 1 22
Mikeymoonshine Posted June 16 Posted June 16 I know it's Dua's flop era but she was coming off of FN and charli had no hit to speak of. Her last album did like 30k 1
Just a Gay on ATRL Posted June 16 Posted June 16 1. Consistent quality music that has made her lose very little fans overtime and only gain more that are passionate about her/faithful to her brand. It's been a slow burn but a strong one. Dua has more sheer numbers and reach, but i don't think her fans are as ride or die as Charli fans ride for her. 2. People like to joke that the LGBT fanbases are fickle, but I completely disagree and think people have it totally wrong. Building an LGBT-centric fanbase is one of the most dedicated long-term fanbases you can build yourself overtime. Whether you're at a general career low or career high, if you're a pop girlie they love, they WILL keep listening to you. It will ebb and flow in strength of support, but Charli has that fanbase for life Dua does too, so I believe Dua can always depend on them to keep her afloat. 3. She delivered exactly what people wanted from her, experimental but carefully curated hyper-pop. Dua did not what people anticipated from Radical Optimism and tbh I don't think it got as many repeat listens first week. I was underwhelmed personally. 8
James_Joint Posted June 16 Posted June 16 I feel like they have a similar sized fan base, but Charli built hers without commercial success or hits, which is now really benefiting her and makes her numbers impressive whereas Dua always had the hits and commercial success, so without them, she naturally declined.
KatyPrismSpirit Posted June 16 Posted June 16 dua completely wasted whatever goodwill she had in the US post dance the night by releasing Houdini. It's too Euro-pop for the US.
Popular Post Talento Posted June 16 Author Popular Post Posted June 16 1 minute ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: dua completely wasted whatever goodwill she had in the US post dance the night by releasing Houdini. It's too Euro-pop for the US. It was "too Euro-pop" for Europe too 22
Kavish Posted June 16 Posted June 16 Same numbers but it's a radical optimism for Charli and a radical floptimism for Dua.
M!X Posted June 16 Posted June 16 I am actually shocked they are even close because they not seem like they are on the same level popularity vise...like at all 1 1
KatyPrismSpirit Posted June 16 Posted June 16 Just now, Talento said: It was "too Euro-pop" for Europe too Not really. Spoiler Weekly chart performance for "Houdini" Chart (2023–2024) Peak position Belarus Airplay (TopHit)[46] 1 Belgium (Ultratop 50 Flanders)[47] 1 Belgium (Ultratop 50 Wallonia)[48] 1 Bulgaria (PROPHON)[51] 1 Canada AC (Billboard)[53] 1 Croatia (HRT)[59] 1 Czech Republic (Rádio – Top 100)[60] 1 Estonia Airplay (TopHit)[64] 1 Greece International (IFPI)[69] 1 Latvia Airplay (LAIPA)[79] 1 Paraguay (Monitor Latino)[92] 1 Poland (Polish Airplay Top 100)[93] 1 Russia Airplay (TopHit)[98] 1 Slovakia (Rádio Top 100)[100] 1 US Hot Dance/Electronic Songs(Billboard)[115] 1 Canada CHR/Top 40 (Billboard)[54] 2 Canada Hot AC (Billboard)[55] 2 Chile (Monitor Latino)[56] 2 CIS (TopHit)[57] 2 Japan Hot Overseas (Billboard Japan)[76] 2 Kazakhstan Airplay (TopHit)[77] 2 Netherlands (Dutch Top 40)[85] 2 Romania (Radio Romania Top 50)[96] 2 South Africa Airplay (TOSAC)[102] 2 UK Singles (OCC)[109] 2 Global 200 (Billboard)[68] 3 Lebanon (Lebanese Top 20)[80] 3 Luxembourg (Billboard)[82] 3 Panama (PRODUCE)[91] 3 Switzerland (Schweizer Hitparade)[107] 3 Hungary (Dance Top 40)[70] 4 Hungary (Rádiós Top 40)[71] 4 Canada (Canadian Hot 100)[52] 5 Lithuania (AGATA)[81] 5 US Adult Top 40 (Billboard)[114] 5 Ireland (IRMA)[74] 6 Suriname (Nationale Top 40)[105] 6 US Mainstream Top 40 (Billboard)[116] 6 Australia (ARIA)[44] 7 France (SNEP)[66] 7 Netherlands (Single Top 100)[86] 8 Ecuador (Monitor Latino)[63] 9 Germany (Official German Charts)[67] 9 Hungary (Single Top 40)[72] 9 Slovakia (Singles Digitál Top 100)[101] 9 Bolivia (Monitor Latino)[49] 10 1
TayDuaStan Posted June 16 Posted June 16 (edited) I blame those endless vacations… and also Danny L Harle & Kevin Parker (truly awful producers, i hope they get blacklisted from working with MPG again) Edited June 16 by TayDuaStan 1 3
makeme Posted June 16 Posted June 16 Most then Doja did with Scarlet and PTTR. Charli really did that
LoveInStereo Posted June 16 Posted June 16 11 minutes ago, FolkLover1989 said: Doesn't it have more tracks ? So by atrl logic it obv will have more streams 16 minutes ago, FolkLover1989 said: It had 14 variants debut week plus sign variants so by Atrl logic it obviously will debut high Is this necessary? And before you reply, consider what you wanna say next & ask yourself is this rly pertinent to the topic at hand? OT: Dua hasn't accrued a devoted fanbase the same way Charli has. She's more of a household name but that doesn't translate to albums the way it does to singles. Charli took a long time to get here but word of mouth has finally rly gotten around 2
Breathe On Moi Posted June 16 Posted June 16 swifties hating Charli for real?? this is a disease at this point! tbh it's so much more impressive for Charli considering no main stream success and 10+ years into her career. both gorgeous foreign girlies tho! 2 1
sunbathinganimal Posted June 16 Posted June 16 that's incredibly impressive considering none of the singles even charted 2
Démodé Posted June 16 Posted June 16 19 minutes ago, TayDuaStan said: I blame those endless vacations… and also Danny L Harle & Kevin Parker (truly awful producers, i hope they get blacklisted from working with MPG again) I mean that's a little brave coming from someone stanning Anton*ff productions but ok werq 1 1 2
glitch Posted June 16 Posted June 16 Those are such good numbers for Charli I was honestly surprised Dua did that much in the US since she seemingly doesn't have much of a US base 2
Parallel Posted June 16 Posted June 16 24 minutes ago, makeme said: Most then Doja did with Scarlet and PTTR. Charli really did that Doja didn't have physicals, both RO and Brat did half their totals from physicals
State of Grace. Posted June 16 Posted June 16 Not very surprising tbh. Charli has been around for over a decade now and she's been cultivating a cult following for years, especially after Vroom Vroom. Add to that the fact that Brat completely exploded this month and took over the internet while Radical Optimism didn't resonate with audiences that much and these numbers totally make sense to me. 1
makeme Posted June 16 Posted June 16 2 minutes ago, Parallel said: Doja didn't have physicals, both RO and Brat did half their totals from physicals oooo yes I forgot this Scarlet probably had higher SEA
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