Wonderland Posted June 10 Posted June 10 (edited) They seem more comparable to Lana Del Rey and Dua Lipa tbh Edited June 10 by Wonderland
Witnessed ET Posted June 10 Posted June 10 4 hours ago, Pink Whitney said: Sabrina has more of a personality than Katy ever did Imagine believing this, let alone thinking and typing it on a keyboard Katy is known for her bubbly and witty personality since her debut era. 1
DiabeticGrandpa Posted June 10 Posted June 10 9 hours ago, Pink Whitney said: Sabrina has more of a personality than Katy ever did Espresso is a faceless hit. Anyone could sing that song. Katy was a known celebrity the moment she released I kissed a girl.
PoisonPill Posted July 2 Posted July 2 (edited) **Edit: I'm not predicting Sabrina and Chappell are going to become as big as Katy and Gaga, or claiming they're exactly the same. I'm drawing comparisons between their respective breakout years... so try to not be so literal ** As we witness the simultaneous rise of Sabrina Carpenter and Chappell Roan to pop superstardom in 2024, I'm starting to see strong similarities between the joint rise of Katy Perry and Lady Gaga in 2008. Both pairs are perfect complements to each other, each satisfying a different corner of the pop market. Sabrina/Katy are the sexy bombshells putting out bright bouncy pop radio earworms. While Chappell/Gaga are their "weirder" counterparts using a stage name alter-ego, also making catchy mainstream pop music but with an edge: extravagant costumes and high-camp, drag-esque styling, connecting deeply with the queer community. Like Sabrina, Katy blew up first with an infectious pop anthem that became song of the summer (Espresso even emulates the sound of the producer behind I Kissed a Girl ) Like Chappell, Gaga followed soon behind with rapid momentum from her viral live performances and looks - and a general fascination with her persona - sending her months-old album flying up the charts with multiple songs taking off alongside. Both of their first smash singles are also about bisexuality (Good Luck Babe and Poker Face). Do you see the parallels between 2024 Sabrina and Chappell and 2008 Katy and Gaga? Do you think both women will continue on the trajectory of their predecessors? Edited July 2 by PoisonPill 1 1
Illuminati Posted July 2 Posted July 2 (edited) Too early to tell, they're both giving flavour of the month. If they can outlast Gayle and Tate then perhaps they're the new Olivia and Billie. The latter two are established artists at this point. I also get the impression that Chappel doesn't even want to be a mainstream artist Edited July 2 by Illuminati 4
Breakdown Posted July 2 Posted July 2 (edited) Sabrina is gorgeous with pop bops just like Katy although obviously not as grand as her but the industry is constantly declining, so I won't hold that against her. The other two, well hm, I do see a little pattern there, no wonder I don't use either. Edited July 2 by Breakdown 2 2
PoisonPill Posted July 2 Posted July 2 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Illuminati said: I also get the impression that Chappel doesn't even want to be a mainstream artist Welp, it looks like she doesn't have a choice anymore I fear, the industry and gp have anointed her. On one hand, she seems overwhelmed and uncomfortable with the attention, but on the other hand she's doing everything in her power to become a huge star. Edited July 2 by PoisonPill 1 1
Space Cowboy Posted July 2 Posted July 2 Yes, but Chappelle is more talented than Gaga, and Sabrina is more talented than Katy. 2 4
Minto Posted July 2 Posted July 2 good luck babe is the first hit song in a while i've enjoyed espresso was cute but her whole schtick is so julia michaels
Stunnah Posted July 2 Posted July 2 Yes, I see it! Sabrina: the sexy hitmaker. Chappell: the aesthetically challenged and pretentious *** hag who will burn out after 1.5 albums. Truly, the Katy and Gaga of our time! 6 8
Tm4074 Posted July 2 Posted July 2 I can see it on a very surface level comparison but still way too early to tell how they will pan out longterm. Chappell hasn't had a moment similar to Just Dance yet never mind Poker Face or Bad Romance. But she can definitely get there with the momentum she is experiencing now so obviously the GP is loving what she offers as an artist similar to Gaga's debut gaining momentum before it became obvious she was the next big thing. Sabrina isn't going to come close to Teenage Dream dominance in the year 2024. Impossible to do that in the streaming era and with our fragmented pop culture landscape. Sabrina shouldn't use Katy as a career blueprint anyway. Katy's brand of pop isn't meant to have longevity and isn't taken seriously by the industry. There is no place for singles artists in the streaming era if you want a long career. Sabrina needs to develop artistic merit beyond fun, sexy pop hits to sustain herself after this moment. I would compare her more with pre-Sweetener Ariana than Katy. Sabrina is an ex-act, has a loyal fanbase going back to her child acting days on Disney, and fits more in the pocket sized diva sexy/cute image opposed to the traditional bombshell image like Katy. Sabrina also leans into the retro aesthetic and is more tongue-and-cheek in her approach like Ariana rather than blatantly on-the-nose silly like Katy. Vocally Sabrina pulls from Ariana's book with the layered harmonies, ad-libs and overall r&b influenced delivery which is nothing like Katy either. 3
halcyonday Posted July 2 Posted July 2 In some ways, sure. Sabrina took 10 years to blow up, similar to Katy who was ditched by her 3 record labels. Chappell is slowly burning up just like Gaga with Just Dance. I don't see them have even half of the power these two had from 2008 to 2014 tho.
Julia Fox Posted July 2 Posted July 2 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Tm4074 said: I can see it on a very surface level comparison but still way too early to tell how they will pan out longterm. Chappell hasn't had a moment similar to Just Dance yet never mind Poker Face or Bad Romance. But she can definitely get there with the momentum she is experiencing now so obviously the GP is loving what she offers as an artist similar to Gaga's debut gaining momentum before it became obvious she was the next big thing. Sabrina isn't going to come close to Teenage Dream dominance in the year 2024. Impossible to do that in the streaming era and with our fragmented pop culture landscape. Sabrina shouldn't use Katy as a career blueprint anyway. Katy's brand of pop isn't meant to have longevity and isn't taken seriously by the industry. There is no place for singles artists in the streaming era if you want a long career. Sabrina needs to develop artistic merit beyond fun, sexy pop hits to sustain herself after this moment. I would compare her more with pre-Sweetener Ariana than Katy. Sabrina is an ex-act, has a loyal fanbase going back to her child acting days on Disney, and fits more in the pocket sized diva sexy/cute image opposed to the traditional bombshell image like Katy. Sabrina also leans into the retro aesthetic and is more tongue-and-cheek in her approach like Ariana rather than blatantly on-the-nose silly like Katy. Vocally Sabrina pulls from Ariana's book with the layered harmonies, ad-libs and overall r&b influenced delivery which is nothing like Katy either. I agree with everything you have stated but one thing: I don't think Sabrina fits into the category of single artists. You can see her streams at least with her past two albums and you can see people are streaming the entire album and have their favorites. For example, Looking At Me is a non single that's the most streamed song from Singular Act II with no radio release, viral TikTok trend, playlist payola, a MV or even a live performance and it's one of her most streamed songs. On the other hand, emails I can't send has a lot of streams that are pretty balanced, there are some songs that are beloved from the GP even more than her singles like Read Your Mind, Vicious, opposite, Already Over and the title track, and even Feather was getting a lot of love way before getting a single treatment. I would say she isn't an album artists yet but she could become one when Short n Sweet comes out since it seems she will snatch a huge numbers of physicals since whenever a new variant of a vinyl is on it's sold out in a day so I expect at least a 50k number only on physicals if it's not more Edited July 2 by Julia Fox
Tm4074 Posted July 2 Posted July 2 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Julia Fox said: I agree with everything you have stated but one thing: I don't think Sabrina fits into the category of single artists. You can see her streams at least with her past two albums and you can see people are streaming the entire album and have their favorites. For example, Looking At Me is a non single that's the most streamed song from Singular Act II with no radio release, viral TikTok trend, playlist payola, a MV or even a live performance and it's one of her most streamed songs. On the other hand, emails I can't send has a lot of streams that are pretty balanced, there are some songs that are beloved from the GP even more than her singles like Read Your Mind, Vicious, opposite, Already Over and the title track, and even Feather was getting a lot of love way before getting a single treatment. I would say she isn't an album artists yet but she could become one when Short n Sweet comes out since it seems she will snatch a huge numbers of physicals since whenever a new variant of a vinyl is on it's sold out in a day so I expect at least a 50k number only on physicals if it's not more Oh I 100% agree I don't think Sabrina is a singles artist. I was referring to how Katy is a singles artists and there isn't a place for that in 2024. I think Sabrina is an albums artist for sure. emails i can't send proved there is sustained interest in her albums beyond the promoted singles and her upcoming album will likely do numbers as an entire project. Sabrina has supportive fanbase unlike Katy so if she plays her cards right I don't see her going down a similar path to Katy. That's why I compared her more with Ariana than Katy which makes way more sense when we consider all the factors at play. Edited July 2 by Tm4074 1
supertiffany Posted July 2 Posted July 2 2 hours ago, Illuminati said: Too early to tell, they're both giving flavour of the month. If they can outlast Gayle and Tate then perhaps they're the new Olivia and Billie. The latter two are established artists at this point. I also get the impression that Chappel doesn't even want to be a mainstream artist Sabrina had definitely outlasted and is bigger than Gayle and Tate her next goal if she is the new Olivia and Billie
$ebert Posted July 2 Posted July 2 Chappell gives drag queen energy, she is not giving me Gaga. Sabrina actually sounds good live, so it would be rude to compare her to Katy. 1 4
Draper. Posted July 2 Posted July 2 2 hours ago, Illuminati said: Too early to tell, they're both giving flavour of the month. If they can outlast Gayle and Tate then perhaps they're the new Olivia and Billie. The latter two are established artists at this point. I also get the impression that Chappel doesn't even want to be a mainstream artist Gayle? She only charted one song ever while Chappell is charting 5 and Sabrina 3 simultaneously just this week. 1
PoisonPill Posted July 2 Posted July 2 6 hours ago, $ebert said: Chappell gives drag queen energy, she is not giving me Gaga. Sabrina actually sounds good live, so it would be rude to compare her to Katy. Fame-era Gaga served plenty of femme drag looks (and later created a drag king alter-ego Jo Calderone). And of course "Lady Gaga" is basically a drag name.
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