celeb news Ed Sheeran doesn't believe artists who "don't care" about charts/perception

[AvadaKedavra]

All of them care. Even indie artists. Imagine giving your all in a project and selling only 100 copies of that project. 
They will probably will make music if they have the budget but they will feel underlooked by everyone. 

Major artists clearly wanna stay major artists. They dont want to turn into random forgotten singers who sing in random bars their past hits
They want still large budgets. better lookin tours, to have status in their field, to get that applause from the masses.
Is like havin a successful restaurant. Youre selling really and suddenly your sales are goin lower and lower.
Like working in your field and gettin promoted and ascending and suddenly u dont get hired anymore and u get pay less and less

Edited June 7 by AvadaKedavra

[Wicked]

16 hours ago, AvadaKedavra said:

All of them care. Even indie artists. Imagine giving your all in a project and selling only 100 copies of that project. 

There are only 200 slots on Billboard, everyone isn't going to make it. You are overestimating how much anyone cares.

[XtiRih]

On 6/7/2024 at 6:02 AM, Anvarie said:

I think almost every artist does care about their music. I'm sure they want to create quality art. However, not all artists focus their creative process and thrill of music making on catering to radio/commercial success. While some like Ed and friends, believe being #1 for weeks and dominating the radio is the pinnacle what an artist can achieve, there are others out there who are able to find fulfillment and happiness from within. They don't rely on blocking newer artists or jetting around on tour for 365 days to collect an obscene amount of wealth. They are able to find joy in life through other avenues such as family and friends. Most of these mature artists have outgrown the petty childish mentality most of their stans exhibit where they only thing that matters is the stats versus the quality  

[AvadaKedavra]

7 hours ago, Wicked said:

There are only 200 slots on Billboard, everyone isn't going to make it. You are overestimating how much anyone cares.

I think they care cause Indie projects are also very expensive to make

[DiabeticGrandpa]

On 6/6/2024 at 11:00 PM, dirrtydiana said:

I didn't hear anything about charts though. Britney, Adele, Zayn and Lana are probably the only ones who truly don't care about charts.

 

what he said about caring how people receive the music via concerts is true though.
 

Of course people want their work to sell but the chart obsession is silly and unhealthy. so many amazing songs never even reach the top spot yet become iconic classics

Among the ones you mentioned, it's only Zayn the right answer

[DiabeticGrandpa]

Why does it feel like only women care about charts and not men? Is it internalized misoginy? Like it's always pop girls who show how mugh they care about success and charts 

[dirrtydiana]

5 minutes ago, DiabeticGrandpa said:

Among the ones you mentioned, it's only Zayn the right answer

Please enlighten us on how Britney-had no idea of her 1.3M debut week record and went 10 years without a #1- Spears cares about charts. We'll wait 

 

Adele literally was uncomfortable with the fame Hello brought her and purposely stepped back and even cancelled her residency 

 

And Lana is the epitome of arts not the charts 

 

EDIT: and your next post makes no sense since drake and ed sheeran are equally as chart obsessed as miss allison swift 🤷‍♀️ 

 

Edited June 8 by dirrtydiana

[CocoPouf]

Come on Britney doesn't care right now, but on her peak? Doubt it. 

[CaptainMusic]

There's a difference between being happy if your album or song goes #1 and being obsessed with your sales and chart positions like Ed.

 

Kate Bush for example clearly doesn't care about the charts and mainstream music but she was still happy when RUTH was smashing around the world and kept making posts about its chart positions. 
 

While Ed and lately Taylor make their music with success and charts in mind. 

[DiabeticGrandpa]

5 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said:

Please enlighten us on how Britney-had no idea of her 1.3M debut week record and went 10 years without a #1- Spears cares about charts. We'll wait 

 

Adele literally was uncomfortable with the fame Hello brought her and purposely stepped back and even cancelled her residency 

 

And Lana is the epitome of arts not the charts 

 

EDIT: and your next post makes no sense since drake and ed sheeran are equally as chart obsessed as miss allison swift 🤷‍♀️ 

 

Can you please chill? I cant with this stan obsession. 
 

All the artists you mentioned are basically products manufactured by the music industry . Their mission in life is to sell and therefore they do care about charts whether you like it or not, especially the princess of pop, miss Britney. Maybe not now she has other issues to care about. 

[dirrtydiana]

35 minutes ago, DiabeticGrandpa said:

Can you please chill? I cant with this stan obsession. 
 

All the artists you mentioned are basically products manufactured by the music industry . Their mission in life is to sell and therefore they do care about charts whether you like it or not, especially the princess of pop, miss Britney. Maybe not now she has other issues to care about. 

Chill how? Stan obsession where? Maybe there's a major language barrier here.

 

And no, please stop with the projection and putting words into people's mouths. When people like Britney and Adele literally opted to deliberately not chart, that means they don't care about charts, period.

 

please learn to read and comprehend and not project your opinions onto others.

[DiabeticGrandpa]

14 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said:

Chill how? Stan obsession where? Maybe there's a major language barrier here.

 

And no, please stop with the projection and putting words into people's mouths. When people like Britney and Adele literally opted to deliberately not chart, that means they don't care about charts, period.

 

please learn to read and comprehend and not project your opinions onto others.

Ok Britney stan if you say so. You're entitled to believe something even when that something is wrong. 

[dirrtydiana]

13 minutes ago, DiabeticGrandpa said:

Ok Britney stan if you say so. You're entitled to believe something even when that something is wrong. 

I've already asked you for proof of your false claims and emotional and personal comments is all you can reply with. 
 

And before quoting me again do a little research on the woman who's the reason this forum even exists. and how from baby one more time to womanizer she didn't release physical singles which caused her not go number 1 on the hot 100 for 10 years because she literally never ever cared about meaningless critics, charts or the even the scammys

 

Edited June 8 by dirrtydiana

[Iñakifan]

1 hour ago, DiabeticGrandpa said:

Why does it feel like only women care about charts and not men? Is it internalized misoginy? Like it's always pop girls who show how mugh they care about success and charts 

Not this when Drake and Ed Sheeran are literally the most chart obsessed artists alive.

[MatiRod]

11 hours ago, Wicked said:

There are only 200 slots on Billboard, everyone isn't going to make it. You are overestimating how much anyone cares.

Everyone cares. Whether or not they let it dictate their happiness is another thing. 

[LegaMyth]

There's one artist who I think truly did not care and that was Whitney Houston. 

 

She was basically following orders in the 80s, and did not give af in the 90s. 

[liquiddiamonds]

The people that some mentioned here that dont care about charts are because they had chart success from day #1 with their debut albums lol they're set

 

The people that truly don't care like that are signed to indie labels and only want to make music for living in their own release schedule and touring. They just sign with labels because they need distribution and promo to achieve that. If you sign to a major label, you probably want some level of success and chart on Billboard, since their advance and promo strategies are all based on that…

Edited June 8 by liquiddiamonds

[Mariya Takeuchi]

he clearly knows nothing about Prince then

[Letemtalk]

On 6/7/2024 at 3:46 PM, TalkThatRihanna said:

@ 42:50

He didn't really talk much about charts at that point. For many artists, they aren't obsessed with charts.

 

On 6/7/2024 at 4:24 PM, ImpressMeMuch said:

Lorde has entered the chat 

She promotes the album during release week, so I guess she cares a little bit and recognises that her label expects her to promote the album. But any of the artists regularly promoting on twitter and TikTok and releasing 10+ different vinyl and CD album versions, care about the charts quite a lot.

[Prodigal Self]

5 hours ago, MatiRod said:

Everyone cares. Whether or not they let it dictate their happiness is another thing. 

Well since you're an artiste you get to speak for everyone

[MatiRod]

6 hours ago, Prodigal Self said:

Well since you're an artiste you get to speak for everyone

Drag me ddddd I mean true, I just assume everyone cares 

[Cooper]

Of course artists care. Obviously they care to different extents, but they all care.

Edited June 9 by Cooper

[Lose My Breath]

On 6/7/2024 at 1:13 AM, MardinBeksloy said:

ATRL gonna hate on him even though he's spitting fact. Beyonce and Billie immediately come to mind despite the way their fans try to push them being above the chart 

Tell me why Beyonce releases the way she does, then?

 

[CherryBay]

[mike_int]

The issue is, there is many smaller unbelievably talented artists who will never get to beat the charts or win grammys cause their record label wont push them enough.

 

Like with Grammy's, whole world and you see handful of artists being nominated and winning over and over again.

Certain artists will be nominated with every new album no manner if it good or bad, if they are big, they bring viewership, which will commercials, which brings money ... thats all