Trent W Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 (edited) 1 minute ago, AndThenTheCocaine said: To be fair Universal probably needs her more than the other way round but yeah. Sometimes I do wonder if she'll start her own label She can do whatever she wants, she's huge did she sign for 6 albums? She already delivered 5 with Universal with TTPD Edited June 4 by Trent W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shimenawa Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 4 minutes ago, AvadaKedavra said: Omg is the Dream the producer of the 3 act? I thought the next act was a rock album with rock producers He worked on the first two acts and if he worked on country music, he can do rock too Maybe he will be credited under a different name like Dr Luke did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cat1867 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 (edited) 4 minutes ago, AndThenTheCocaine said: To be fair Universal probably needs her more than the other way round but yeah. Sometimes I do wonder if she'll start her own label UMG doesn't really have any control over her . She basically just uses them as contractor for physical distribution. There is reason why basically all big artists sign their second contracts with the majors. Their network is hard to replicate. It would cost her hundreds of millions if not more for her to replicate it and that would basically require creating a new label that by nature replicate the same issue. The Dreamz was able to take advantage of this girl not due to a label but due to offering a road to fame due to his success as a producer for stars. Music being decentralized and producers/artists having no hr departments is a bigger issue. It's an industry of contractors where public pressure is the only way to go after those who harm you. Edited June 4 by cat1867 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndThenTheCocaine Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 2 minutes ago, Trent W said: She can do whatever she wants, she's huge did she sign for 6 albums? She already delivered 5 with Universal with TTPD No idea tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudbusting Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 absolutely appalling and horrendous. too many people get away with abuse for way too long. wishing nothing but justice and healing for Ms. Mangroe - no one should have to go through that ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonsé Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 23 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: she had a big chance lets be real. it was gonna be between billie and bey. Except no. She didn't have a big chance. She's gone 0-4. Her odds literally couldn't be any worse. Billie and Taylor who have both won the award before have much greater chances. If lemonade, which is one of the most awarded albums of all time couldn't snag it, it's not happening. Especially since people still are rambling on about the amount of credits on the album (see: the Miley interview posted yesterday and the whole thread being about beyonce) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
réveuse Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 The Music Industry is cursed. WHY ARE THERE SO MANY ABUSERS??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gesamtkunstwerk Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 The entertainment industry just keeps on giving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
professor2000 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 That's kinda crazy because wasn't it rumored that Bey does #MeToo checks on her collaborators? I would do the same. But I guess if the woman didn't come forth until now, no way of her knowing. Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chemist Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 3 hours ago, Burn said: Let's not make this about artists he's worked with. If you do, all you're proving is that you don't really care about victims. If getting a quick drag in over something as serious as this is more important, that's really sad. literally everyone who worked/works with Dr Luke gets dragged to hell and back, why wouldn't it be the same with the artists who work with The Dream? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVP Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Making this thread about Beyoncé is somehow blaming her for a man raping another woman 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maybe Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 14 minutes ago, professor2000 said: That's kinda crazy because wasn't it rumored that Bey does #MeToo checks on her collaborators? I would do the same. But I guess if the woman didn't come forth until now, no way of her knowing. Damn. There were already allegations before this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cat1867 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 (edited) 3 minutes ago, LVP said: Making this thread about Beyoncé is somehow blaming her for a man raping another woman I mean the victim literally talked about how he used his connections to Beyoncé and Rihanna to entrap her. He said that he could make her the opening act for Beyoncé. And he already had publicly reported credible allegations of sexual assault in domestic abuse from 2014. Edited June 4 by cat1867 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVP Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Just now, cat1867 said: I mean the victim literally talked about how he used his connections to Beyoncé and Rihanna to entrap her And that's Beyoncés fault? btw why Rihanna is not mentioned as often as Beyoncé here? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonedIvy Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 This site never fails to amaze me with how low they'll stoop just to land a blow on a woman whose actions have nothing to do with their coworkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay07 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Imagine hearing these horrific allegations and being so morally bankrupt that you make this about Beyonce as if she is responsible for his actions or the promises he made to his victim. Keep blaming women for men's mistakes. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegaMyth Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 You guys remember his Grammy speech when Cuff It won. He's f*****g trash. I hate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegaMyth Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Jay07 said: Imagine hearing these horrific allegations and being so morally bankrupt that you make this about Beyonce as if she is responsible for his actions or the promises he made to his victim. Keep blaming women for men's mistakes. Beyonce has built a career championing women, but here she is, yet again surrounded by another monster that abuses women. Kanye = Monster Diddy = Monster LA Reid = Monster The Dream = Monster Edited June 4 by LegaMyth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent W Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 I really don't think someone like Beyonce can have tabs on all the producers from the industry, she would have to have a PI on everyone and this would be an absolute mess The only way for her or any mainstream artist to do this ethically is work with new non-famous talent Blaming her is ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay07 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 4 minutes ago, LegaMyth said: Beyonce has built a career championing women, but here she is, yet again surrounded by another monster that abuses women. Kanye = Monster Diddy = Monster LA Reid = Monster The Dream = Monster You're blaming Beyonce for what these men did? Are you also blaming the actresses who worked for Harvey Weinstein or the other DOZENS of recording artists who worked with LA Reid and The Dream? This is disgusting. The total perversion of Me Too to score cheap stan war points. Sometimes I am amazed by the depths of depravity some people can reach and I've been here a while. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegaMyth Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 2 minutes ago, Jay07 said: You're blaming Beyonce for what these men did? Are you also blaming the actresses who worked for Harvey Weinstein or the other DOZENS of recording artists who worked with LA Reid and The Dream? This is disgusting. The total perversion of Me Too to score cheap stan war points. Sometimes I am amazed by the depths of depravity some people can reach and I've been here a while. I'm not blaming Beyoncé for their behavior. I'm questioning her judgement. All of these men seemed like a**h***** from the outside looking in. Turns out, they are demons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShouldersSideways Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 10 minutes ago, LegaMyth said: I'm not blaming Beyoncé for their behavior. I'm questioning her judgement. All of these men seemed like a**h***** from the outside looking in. Turns out, they are demons. Why are you questioning her judgement in particular when there are hundreds of men and women who both associated with these men even more closely? She and Jay cut off Kanye long before the worst of his behavior came to light and she's never been close to LA Reid so I'm not sure where you got that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paparazzaid Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 2 hours ago, charot said: I thought it's the face reveal youtube guy That was my first thought too you are not alone sis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegaMyth Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 4 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said: Why are you questioning her judgement in particular when there are hundreds of men and women who both associated with these men even more closely? She and Jay cut off Kanye long before the worst of his behavior came to light and she's never been close to LA Reid so I'm not sure where you got that. These people were CLOSE. Kanye and Diddy referred to Bey as their sister at one point. The Dream writes all of her songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabilicious Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Mr. Gesteelde-Diamant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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