Thuggin Posted June 3 Posted June 3 Just now, Kimbra said: I don't your ire? I highlighted those letters because the credits go in the order of either the first or last name. Usually the first. Order of the writers doesn't indicate alphabetical order either. It's just a game of label politics basically. If a song is going on an artist's album, they're probably being listed as the first writer regardless of what their actual publishing split was. And yes, this applies to EVERYONE'S faves. 2
mrpartyrocker Posted June 3 Posted June 3 Just now, Kimbra said: I don't your ire? I highlighted those letters because the credits go in the order of either the first or last name. Usually the first. The credits on spotify are in the following order michael pollback beyonce knowles carter miley cyrus ryan tedder apple music Beyonce knowles carter miley cyrus ryan tedder michael pollback either way, it's not in alphabetical order! go to school 3 9 1
on the line Posted June 3 Posted June 3 4 minutes ago, mrpartyrocker said: The credits on spotify are in the following order michael pollback beyonce knowles carter miley cyrus ryan tedder apple music Beyonce knowles carter miley cyrus ryan tedder michael pollback either way, it's not in alphabetical order! go to school This is top-notch investigative journalism! Receipts, timelines, proof, thievery, ******* Beyoncé! Threads like this are why I continue to visit this forum. *chef kiss* 10
Kimbra Posted June 3 Posted June 3 9 minutes ago, mrpartyrocker said: The credits on spotify are in the following order michael pollback beyonce knowles carter miley cyrus ryan tedder apple music Beyonce knowles carter miley cyrus ryan tedder michael pollback either way, it's not in alphabetical order! go to school I was going off wikipedia. Which the original comment I'm assuming was as well. I'm aware every platform arranges it differently even ASCAP. So I still don't understand the ire.
CécredSpaces Posted June 3 Posted June 3 5 hours ago, ShouldersSideways said: Where did you get this from? There's no such thing as credit for lead writer. Credits are in three different orders: Alphabetical: Most common in bands where every member writes. Chronological: Writers are listed in the order of when they first laid their hands on the song (who wrote first, then who it got passed on to, etc.) Top Billing: Everyone is listed based the percentage of how much they contributed to the writing of the song. 2
stjosephprey4us Posted June 3 Posted June 3 Inb4 Beyoncé removes Miley like she did with Kelis for being ungrateful
Pepo Posted June 3 Posted June 3 1 hour ago, Thuggin said: Being listed first doesn't mean you contributed the most to the song or get the largest publishing split. The split for II Most Wanted is as follows: Miley Cyrus - 28.4 Beyoncé - 15 Michael Pollack - 28.3 Ryan Tedder - 28.3 Watch them ignore this post on purpose just to act obtuse.
chiliam Posted June 3 Posted June 3 This is why she wont win that AoTY. Like she is already an amazing artist without those songwriting credit. But to pretend she wrote those songs and stuffs like this come out, its a slap to the face to her peers and they wont vote for her. Whitney abd Celine managed to win AOTY without writting credit or pretend to write songs. Beyonce already won if she did not pull these shenanigans 7 1 1 2
TeemoR Posted June 3 Posted June 3 6 hours ago, Johnny Jacobs said: But Bey is listed as lead writer FRAUD as per usual 1 1
TeemoR Posted June 3 Posted June 3 3 hours ago, Where are you now? said: This is not a good look at all for Bey. Has this woman legit ever written a song herself (lyrics / instrumentation)? If you're not talented enough to write your own songs it's fine... plenty of artists don't. But at least OWN up to it, don't just stamp your name on every single song under the writing credits! NEVER. Also, have you heard her even speak on interviews? 1 5 1
tomo Posted June 3 Posted June 3 She didn't even say anything about the credits and people here commenting based on their feelings about a certain artist. 1
Namie-Knowles Posted June 3 Posted June 3 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Asscatchem said: then why is beyonce's name listed first on the credits? The way it's been explained to you already if your scrolled up three posts. Sends I love this messy ass forum Edited June 3 by Namie-Knowles
Soda Pop Queen Posted June 3 Posted June 3 Eh, makes sense. It explains why Miley opens the track and Beyoncé sounds like the featured guest instead of the other way around. Anyway, I think it's so cool Beyoncé seems to occasionally reach out to all the girls, both young and old. Wasn't surprised to hear that her and Miley text lol. Kesha said the same thing many moons ago. Also, I wonder does she still have that Dereon outfit that Bey gifted her. That's how I know she been a stan her whole career lol
Asscatchem Posted June 3 Posted June 3 8 minutes ago, Namie-Knowles said: The way it's been explained to you already if your scrolled up three posts. Sends I love this messy ass forum i can't find the answer
Wicked Posted June 3 Posted June 3 This site focuses on Pop artists that work from demos 9/10 times so idk why y'all use this as a drag so much. 5 2
slw84 Posted June 3 Posted June 3 3 hours ago, mrpartyrocker said: The credits on spotify are in the following order michael pollback beyonce knowles carter miley cyrus ryan tedder apple music Beyonce knowles carter miley cyrus ryan tedder michael pollback either way, it's not in alphabetical order! go to school I admire the creativity in using alphabetic order. I was growing tired of the oohs and aaahs serving as writing credit just like that Deja vu demo (one of my faves). Miley the talented songwriter that you are
Xtina23 Posted June 3 Posted June 3 1 hour ago, tomo said: She didn't even say anything about the credits and people here commenting based on their feelings about a certain artist. "feelings"? No gurlll. People are talking about the long HISTORY of a certain artist regarding song credits. As in, this had happened MULTIPLE times now.
Katamari Posted June 4 Posted June 4 55 minutes ago, Broken said: and then he goes to work with her a mess! 1
tomo Posted June 4 Posted June 4 19 minutes ago, Xtina23 said: "feelings"? No gurlll. People are talking about the long HISTORY of a certain artist regarding song credits. As in, this had happened MULTIPLE times now. Hey gurl! There is no mention of anything about the credits from Miley.
toxicgenie Posted June 4 Posted June 4 4 hours ago, Thuggin said: Being listed first doesn't mean you contributed the most to the song or get the largest publishing split. The split for II Most Wanted is as follows: Miley Cyrus - 28.4 Beyoncé - 15 Michael Pollack - 28.3 Ryan Tedder - 28.3 Assuming this is true (no source/evidence). He clocked the 15%. 1
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