charts discussion HDD: Taylor Swift 6x #1 177k, Billie Eilish #2 149k, Twenty One Pilots #3 139k

[fridayteenage]

6 hours ago, Trent W said:

 

You are still a fan of music in general and collect music. The average person is not doing that.

 

For example there are not 20k people like you buying Lover and only Lover.

 

I really don't wanna come as a taylor hater cause Im a fan

 

So the public are not fans of music at all, got it 

[Starchild]

3 hours ago, Lorenzo22 said:

lover is just higher than most of her albums because it has her most recent smash hit, it's not that complicated 

!

Some people just like playing dumb for some reason 

[dussymob]

48 minutes ago, Starchild said:

!

Some people just like playing dumb for some reason 

Who's playing dumb? When you buy an album for an artist in this day and age you have been converted into a fan. Unless you're a boomer. 

[Cloröx]

On 5/30/2024 at 5:32 AM, More Than A Melody said:

Swifties breaking their backs trying to claim that an album having 31 tracks doesn't make it easier to get more streams has got to be one of the most delusional things they've tried to pull.

 

Of course it doesn't mean that she's not the biggest artist on the planet (the fact that you have to clarify this every single time you try to argue a point with them because they're so deeply insecure FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON). It doesn't mean her numbers aren't incredibly impressive. She absolutely is and they absolutely are. But don't be obtuse for the love of god lmao.

 

The more tracks you have, the easier it is to get more streams. That's a fact. This fact is also more prevalent for artists who have a dedicated fanbase. Because a huge percentage of that fanbase will stream the album front to back at least once a day.

 

Let's say there are 10,000 Swifties who stream TTPD once a day every day for a week. That is 2,170,000 streams in a week. 1,447 units. Legitimately, just from 10,000 Swifties streaming the album once (1 time) a day.

 

Let's say there are 10,000 Billie fans who stream HMHAS once a day every day for a week. That is 700,000 streams in a week. 467 units.

 

So if they had the exact same amount of fans doing the exact same thing, Taylor would get almost 1,000 extra units over Billie. How can you argue with this? Like, what can you possibly say that can counter this?

 

Does it take longer to stream TTPD? Yes. That does not change the fact that most dedicated Swifties will stream it at least once a day every day, at least for the first couple of months. That is how fanbases work, and she has the largest one.

 

"But in the time you stream TTPD you can stream HMHAS twice" (not thrice, twice). Uh, yeah, but you're going a step further. You're talking about extreme fans who will loop and listen to the same 10 songs a million times a day. In THAT regard, Billie would have an advantage, but you can't be obtuse enough to imply that Billie has a ton of fans who will do that, proportionally speaking. Like, the length of the album as a shortcoming is irrelevant here because the amount of Billie fans who will loop her album is minimal. And furthermore, looping a 10 track album would result in filtered streams which do not count for the charts. The same thing would apply for a 31 track album, of course, but to a MUCH lesser degree. The longer your track list, the less of a chance there is to lose streams due to filter.

 

This and trying to quiet people who use the figure of average streams per track has to be one of the most annoying things they do. You can't compare a 31 track album to a 10 track album, it doesn't make any sense. The fairest possible way to compare those is to use averages. It won't be 1000% fair, but it'll be the fairest comparison. "You lose steam" doesn't really apply when we're talking about the first couple of months after release for artists with huge dedicated fanbases.

What kind of horsesh!t post is this lol

[Taylor fanboy]

5 hours ago, dussymob said:

Who's playing dumb? When you buy an album for an artist in this day and age you have been converted into a fan. Unless you're a boomer. 

Oh thank you for a new nickname to Taylor's seventh album, "Boomer".

 

[Taylor fanboy]

If Swifties could command the Hot 200 based on favorite albums, 1989 TV and Red TV will be higher than Lover and Midnights.

[More Than A Melody]

15 hours ago, Cloröx said:

What kind of horsesh!t post is this lol

A post that makes so much sense no one could give a single argument to debunk it.

[WildHeart]

5 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said:

A post that makes so much sense no one could give a single argument to debunk it.

 

On 5/30/2024 at 5:58 PM, WildHeart said:

There is a fairer way - comparing first 10 songs from both. 

 

But of course you will keep with your average nonsense because despite albums like TTPD's first 10 songs stomping on Harry's House's top 10, you will say Harry's House is bigger because it has higher "average" than 31 songs album and somehow bigger

But of course you chose to ignore it, second time

[Renan90]

SPS

Chart Date: 05/31/2024 (WEEK ENDING: 05/30/2024)
MARKETSHARE: UMG 57% WMG 24% SME 15% OTHERS 4%

Status: Final

LW	TW	ARTIST | TITLE | LABEL	TOTAL	CHANGE	ALBUMS	TEA	SEA
1 1 TAYLOR SWIFT | THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT REPUBLIC (UMG)			177,008	-53%	42,444	1,015	133,549
2 2 BILLIE EILISH | HIT ME HARD AND SOFT DARKROOM/INTERSCOPE (UMG)			149,258	-55%	43,345	686	105,227
-- 3 TWENTY ONE PILOTS | CLANCY FUELED BY RAMEN (WMG)			139,072	--	110,068	295	28,709
3 4 MORGAN WALLEN | ONE THING AT A TIME BIG LOUD/MERCURY/REPUBLIC (UMG)			74,696	1%	1,260	729	72,707
-- 5 RM | RIGHT PLACE, WRONG PERSON BIGHIT/GEFFEN (UMG)			54,522	--	44,066	3,250	7,206
6 6 MORGAN WALLEN | DANGEROUS: THE DOUBLE ALBUM BIG LOUD/MERCURY/REPUBLIC (UMG)			45,578	3%	354	258	44,966
5 7 FUTURE & METRO BOOMIN | WE DON'T TRUST YOU BOOMINATI/FREEBANDZ/REPUBLIC/EPIC (UMG/SME)			42,862	-10%	63	198	42,601
4 8 GUNNA | ONE OF WUN YOUNG STONER LIFE (WMG)			42,819	-25%	103	68	42,648
7 9 NOAH KAHAN | STICK SEASON MERCURY/REPUBLIC (UMG)			40,318	5%	2,980	344	36,994
8 10 ZACH BRYAN | ZACH BRYAN WARNER (WMG)			37,990	1%	2,256	267	35,467
9 11 SZA | SOS TDE/RCA (SME)			35,730	-4%	1,699	106	33,926
11 12 ZACH BRYAN | AMERICAN HEARTBREAK WARNER (WMG)			32,317	3%	992	270	31,056
10 13 BENSON BOONE | FIREWORKS & ROLLERBLADES NIGHT STREET/WARNER (WMG)			31,313	-7%	614	859	29,840
12 14 POST MALONE | THE DIAMOND COLLECTION MERCURY/REPUBLIC (UMG)			30,250	-1%	231	279	29,741
14 15 TAYLOR SWIFT | LOVER REPUBLIC (UMG)			28,682	-2%	6,214	355	22,113
-- 16 SEXYY RED | IN SEXYY WE TRUST OPEN SHIFT/GAMMA (GAMMA)			28,167	--	2,050	1,701	24,416
28 17 CHAPPELL ROAN | THE RISE AND FALL OF A MIDWEST PRINCESS ISLAND (UMG)			27,107	24%	6,046	132	20,929
13 18 BEYONCE | COWBOY CARTER PARKWOOD/COLUMBIA (SME)			26,739	-10%	1,889	397	24,453
16 19 ARIANA GRANDE | ETERNAL SUNSHINE REPUBLIC (UMG)			24,805	-8%	2,717	187	21,901
24 20 LUKE COMBS | THIS ONE'S FOR YOU RIVER HOUSE/COLUMBIA NASHVILLE (SME)			24,159	5%	377	144	23,638
18 21 OLIVIA RODRIGO | GUTS GEFFEN (UMG)			23,930	-8%	2,770	132	21,029
19 22 TAYLOR SWIFT | 1989 (TAYLOR'S VERSION) REPUBLIC (UMG)			23,856	-2%	5,816	242	17,799
21 23 TEDDY SWIMS | I'VE TRIED EVERYTHING BUT THERAPY (PART 1) WARNER (WMG)			23,195	-4%	1,738	943	20,514
27 24 BAD BUNNY | UN VERANO SIN TI RIMAS (THE ORCHARD)			22,683	2%	156	50	22,476
23 25 TAYLOR SWIFT | MIDNIGHTS REPUBLIC (UMG)			21,964	-6%	4,365	230	17,369
25 26 LUKE COMBS | GETTIN' OLD RIVER HOUSE/COLUMBIA NASHVILLE (SME)			21,482	-6%	485	323	20,674
26 27 DRAKE | FOR ALL THE DOGS OVO/REPUBLIC (UMG)			20,582	-8%	18	48	20,516
-- 28 WALLOWS | MODEL ATLANTIC (WMG)			20,567	--	14,741	65	5,762
20 29 KENDRICK LAMAR | DAMN. TDE/AFTERMATH/INTERSCOPE (UMG)			20,534	-16%	1,644	53	18,837
22 30 TRAVIS SCOTT | UTOPIA CACTUS JACK/EPIC (SME)			20,520	-14%	534	57	19,929
39 31 FLEETWOOD MAC | RUMOURS WARNER (WMG)			20,389	13%	4,078	277	16,035
29 32 KENDRICK LAMAR | GOOD KID M.A.A.D CITY TDE/AFTERMATH/INTERSCOPE (UMG)			20,188	-7%	2,199	53	17,936
40 33 CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL | CHRONICLE: THE 20 GREATEST HITS FANTASY (UMG)			19,404	8%	1,615	210	17,579
47 34 BOB MARLEY & THE WAILERS | LEGEND TUFF GONG/ISLAND (UMG)			19,206	14%	2,827	202	16,177
31 35 PESO PLUMA | GENESIS DOUBLE P/PRAJIN PARLAY (THE ORCHARD)			18,930	-6%	16	37	18,876
41 36 OLIVIA RODRIGO | SOUR GEFFEN (UMG)			18,843	6%	3,057	70	15,716
-- 37 BRING ME THE HORIZON | POST HUMAN: NEX GEN RCA (SME)			18,709	--	3,081	370	15,259
35 38 FRANK OCEAN | BLONDE BOYS DON'T CRY (BLONDED)			18,635	2%	139	25	18,471
37 39 ELTON JOHN | DIAMONDS ISLAND (UMG)			18,625	3%	498	363	17,765
30 40 FUTURE & METRO BOOMIN | WE STILL DON'T TRUST YOU BOOMINATI/FREEBANDZ/REPUBLIC/EPIC (UMG/SME)			18,429	-11%	396	25	18,008
33 41 LINKIN PARK | PAPERCUTS WARNER (WMG)			18,336	-4%	2,258	183	15,895
43 42 MORGAN WALLEN | IF I KNOW ME BIG LOUD (STEM)			18,286	5%	337	144	17,805
50 43 EAGLES | TO THE LIMIT: THE ESSENTIAL COLLECTION ELEKTRA/RHINO (WMG)			18,136	9%	1,225	280	16,631
32 44 FUERZA REGIDA | PA LAS BABY'S Y BELIKEADA RANCHO HUMILDE/STREET MOB (SME)			18,035	-6%	16	26	17,993
34 45 TAYLOR SWIFT | FOLKLORE REPUBLIC (UMG)			17,828	-5%	3,974	116	13,738
38 46 BAILEY ZIMMERMAN | RELIGIOUSLY. THE ALBUM. WARNER NASHVILLE (WMG)			17,582	-3%	169	184	17,228
-- 47 GLORILLA | EHHTHANG EHHTHANG CMG/INTERSCOPE (UMG)			17,063	--	14	81	16,968
45 48 HOZIER | UNHEARD COLUMBIA (SME)			16,813	-3%	274	621	15,919
48 49 EMINEM | CURTAIN CALL SHADY/AFTERMATH/INTERSCOPE (UMG)			16,777	1%	529	213	16,035
-- 50 QUEEN | GREATEST HITS 1 HOLLYWOOD (UMG)			16,718	--	1,940	289	14,489

 

https://hitsdailydouble.com/sales_plus_streaming

[UnusualBoy]

Billie doing almost 150k

 

 

3 4 MORGAN WALLEN | ONE THING AT A TIME BIG LOUD/MERCURY/REPUBLIC (UMG)			74,696	1%	1,260	729	72,707
6 6 MORGAN WALLEN | DANGEROUS: THE DOUBLE ALBUM BIG LOUD/MERCURY/REPUBLIC (UMG)			45,578	3%	354	258	44,966

 

Tired of this motherfucker...

[StayFrosty]

How is it that every week we have a tedious discussion analyzing Taylor's popularity ☠️.

[Cloröx]

6 hours ago, More Than A Melody said:

A post that makes so much sense no one could give a single argument to debunk it.

"You can't compare a 31 track album to a 10 track album, it doesn't make any sense. The fairest possible way to compare those is to use averages."

 

lol your biggest issue is not number of track but fans behavior, their willingness to stream the usic. CC is the perfect example that not every long ass album can benefit from having bigger tracks. By the the time Swifties finished streaming TTPD, The Eyelashes have finished HMHAS thrice and according to your logic HMHAS is the bigger album because it generate three streams per track meanwhile TTPD has one stream per track. For real you are mad that Swifties consume the music regardless the length of the album, if TTPD was shorter with 10 tracks you'll be screaming on how cultish psychotic Swifties are playing the album on loop to inflate number lmao

[Reverse Warholian]

Chappell Roan

[Roberto]

On 5/31/2024 at 5:00 PM, UnusualBoy said:

Billie doing almost 150k

 

 

3 4 MORGAN WALLEN | ONE THING AT A TIME BIG LOUD/MERCURY/REPUBLIC (UMG)			74,696	1%	1,260	729	72,707
6 6 MORGAN WALLEN | DANGEROUS: THE DOUBLE ALBUM BIG LOUD/MERCURY/REPUBLIC (UMG)			45,578	3%	354	258	44,966

 

Tired of this motherfucker...

The fact that he would be #1 without Tay, Billie and 21P. The real enemy.

[RoseBud]

On 5/29/2024 at 2:48 PM, Headlock said:

Wait so Taylor's fanbase includes middle aged and gay people now? I thought it was all preteen girls 

  Taylor is loved by all ages and that is why she continues smashing and setting new records daily.....

[Almodusa]

Oof just 10k behind Billie  proud of em 

[extra_ordinary]

TTPD 

[iam1925]

TTPD the smash that you are 

[liquiddiamonds]

Album charts threads are becoming more and more unhinged… it's just a reflection of what's being consumed the most. how it is consumed shouldn't matter that much… unless it's an actual fraud or something and BB would act swiftly (no pun intended)

17 hours ago, Reverse Warholian said:

Chappell Roan

This organic success. So happy. The fact people are hungry and streaming her previous work when Goodluck Babe is not even part of the project. It's looking good for our synthpop princess. Talent winning, amazing album

[Blackout2006]

On 5/30/2024 at 2:33 AM, DiabeticGrandpa said:

Swifties adore Lover  wyd 

UM who told you that???

[Blackout2006]

On 6/1/2024 at 4:12 AM, Cloröx said:

if TTPD was shorter with 10 tracks you'll be screaming on how cultish psychotic Swifties are playing the album on loop to inflate number lmao

of course, it's just smart of Taylor to release 31 tracks to reduce the burden for Swifties lol

[DiabeticGrandpa]

33 minutes ago, Blackout2006 said:

UM who told you that???

Nobody has to tell me because, unfortunately, I see with my own eyes. These three co workers are stans like they dont listen to any other music , Just TS  and they all talk about how lover is their wedding song, the archer, etc. 

[Blackout2006]

Just now, DiabeticGrandpa said:

Nobody has to tell me because, unfortunately, I see with my own eyes. These three co workers are stans like they dont listen to any other music , Just TS  and they all talk about how lover is their wedding song, the archer, etc. 

i think lover is a fave amongst gp swiftie fans, that's true. within pop culture circles like ATRL and all? I've seen more contempt for Lover than Tay's debut

[More Than A Melody]

On 5/31/2024 at 9:12 PM, Cloröx said:

"You can't compare a 31 track album to a 10 track album, it doesn't make any sense. The fairest possible way to compare those is to use averages."

 

lol your biggest issue is not number of track but fans behavior, their willingness to stream the usic. CC is the perfect example that not every long ass album can benefit from having bigger tracks. By the the time Swifties finished streaming TTPD, The Eyelashes have finished HMHAS thrice and according to your logic HMHAS is the bigger album because it generate three streams per track meanwhile TTPD has one stream per track. For real you are mad that Swifties consume the music regardless the length of the album, if TTPD was shorter with 10 tracks you'll be screaming on how cultish psychotic Swifties are playing the album on loop to inflate number lmao

I already addressed this. HMHAS is not the bigger album, clearly. TTPD is bigger because it sold more and it averaged more per track in a week by week comparison. Never claimed otherwise.

 

Y'all just don't have nuance. It's always been the issue with Swifties. I don't LIKE Taylor, but I don't hate her, and I'm still automatically accused of being an anti. It's a tale as old as time. If you're not permanently lodged in her colon people like you act like you have a vendetta against her and feel personally victimized by her success.

[Clauss]

What is the situation for 7 week? Is it possible to go #1?