charts discussion HDD: Taylor Swift 6x #1 177k, Billie Eilish #2 149k, Twenty One Pilots #3 139k

[Headlock]

18 minutes ago, DiabeticGrandpa said:

Swifties adore Lover  wyd 

That's a good one tell another 

[Headlock]

22 minutes ago, Trent W said:

The actual thought that the GP is buying Lover and not newer swifties is absolutely insane

 

The GP doesn't buy albums

So all sales are fanbase driven? Cause that would make all popgirls fanbase driven 

[family.guy123]

I think Swifties are being confused with online Swifties. They're a whole different breed. 
 

Of course her fanbase likes her *checks notes* most streamed album of all time and *checks notes* highest charting catalogue album. 

[family.guy123]

It's just that there's a small, but noisy group trying to convince us that her second best album is actually her worst. 

[fridayteenage]

34 minutes ago, Headlock said:

So all sales are fanbase driven? Cause that would make all popgirls fanbase driven 

No, almost all of them sell minimally

[The Music Industry]

The idea that Lover, of all albums, is only doing so well because of her core fanbase is genuinely hilarious. It's quite literally one of the least liked Taylor albums by Swifties. 

 

[pinkdiamond]

My big question is how is Benson Boone holding on this well? Surely it can't just be units from Beautiful Things

[DiabeticGrandpa]

1 hour ago, The Music Industry said:

The idea that Lover, of all albums, is only doing so well because of her core fanbase is genuinely hilarious. It's quite literally one of the least liked Taylor albums by Swifties. 

 

Thats not true

[fridayteenage]

2 hours ago, pinkdiamond said:

My big question is how is Benson Boone holding on this well? Surely it can't just be units from Beautiful Things

it was #10 on us spotify last week.

global daily streams include: slow it down 2.8 mil

cry 840k

[WildHeart]

8 hours ago, Trent W said:

The actual thought that the GP is buying Lover and not newer swifties is absolutely insane

 

The GP doesn't buy albums

The "newer swifties" are GP she turned into fans... 

[Trent W]

7 hours ago, Headlock said:

So all sales are fanbase driven? Cause that would make all popgirls fanbase driven 

Album physical consumption is 100% by fans/stans in 2024

 

Physical albums are merch/collectibles only consumed by fans

 

There is literally no reason why a normal person would buy an album from an artist they just casually like.

 

Casual listeners stream only

Edited May 30 by Trent W

[cat1867]

47 minutes ago, Trent W said:

Album physical consumption is 100% by fans/stans in 2024

 

Physical albums are merch/collectibles only consumed by fans

 

There is literally no reason why a normal person would buy an album from an artist they just casually like.

 

Casual listeners stream only

Mostly true.

 

But people getting into vinyl also often buy some classic albums to start their collection.  That's why Rumors has had high vinyl sales for the last 4 years or so.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if some casual listeners who are pop fans would buy 1989. Them buying lover is less likely.

[Clauss]

Another massive week, wonder how many above 100k we will see. How many did 1989/Midnights had?

[WildHeart]

On 5/29/2024 at 12:40 AM, bad guy said:

If TTPD continues to drop like this

Streaming Equivalent Sales 

 

TTPD - 165k > 135k (-18% drop) 

HMHAS - 143k > 106k (-26% drop) 

 

Good luck at that #1 

[chiliam]

2 hours ago, Trent W said:

Album physical consumption is 100% by fans/stans in 2024

 

Physical albums are merch/collectibles only consumed by fans

 

There is literally no reason why a normal person would buy an album from an artist they just casually like.

 

Casual listeners stream only

if only i was in the US, i would buy a bunch of albums from artists that im casual fans.

Like 10USD-15USD/CD 30USD/vinyl doesnt sound bad 

 

But it sucked to leave in South East Asia, the shipping cost is insane. CD is 20-30USD, Vinyl is 40-50 USD lol, and not to mention the exchange rate/ income gap so i can only afford Taylor`s album (1 variant only )

 

Is there someone from the US can share their habit? liek you only purchase physical from your main fave or just buy whatever album you like

[Jessie]

Surely it's pretty clear the reason Lover has had such longevity is because Cruel Summer has turned into Taylor's biggest streaming era smash and the soundtrack of the eras tour, which is her pop cultural peak that continues to be a dominant part of cultural conversation? It's GP driven.

 

Pretty much how any album, especially pop albums, do well over time these days. You need people streaming hit singles, whether those hits come years later via viral trends that get locals on board or are retroactively tacked on.

[More Than A Melody]

14 hours ago, Axolotl said:

How can average song streams be a fair comparison when time is a finite resource?

Hey hey

 

15 hours ago, More Than A Melody said:

It won't be 1000% fair, but it'll be the fairest comparison. "You lose steam" doesn't really apply when we're talking about the first couple of months after release for artists with huge dedicated fanbases.

 

[family.guy123]

3 hours ago, chiliam said:

if only i was in the US, i would buy a bunch of albums from artists that im casual fans.

Like 10USD-15USD/CD 30USD/vinyl doesnt sound bad 

 

But it sucked to leave in South East Asia, the shipping cost is insane. CD is 20-30USD, Vinyl is 40-50 USD lol, and not to mention the exchange rate/ income gap so i can only afford Taylor`s album (1 variant only )

 

Is there someone from the US can share their habit? liek you only purchase physical from your main fave or just buy whatever album you like

$10 USD for a CD is a ripoff. 

[on the line]

7 hours ago, Trent W said:

Album physical consumption is 100% by fans/stans in 2024

 

Physical albums are merch/collectibles only consumed by fans

 

There is literally no reason why a normal person would buy an album from an artist they just casually like.

 

Casual listeners stream only

I did with Kacey Musgrave's Deeper Well. I wasn't a fan before the first single. So.... maybe best to just take the L and listen to a Calvin Harris song from 2012 again.

 

[Juánny]

7 hours ago, Trent W said:

Album physical consumption is 100% by fans/stans in 2024

 

Physical albums are merch/collectibles only consumed by fans

 

There is literally no reason why a normal person would buy an album from an artist they just casually like.

 

Casual listeners stream only

Absolutely not true. I will sometimes buy an album if it is one that I think is good, even if I am just a casual fan / listener of the actual artist. The last album I bought that fits this was Royals by Lorde—I’m not a huge fan but I was very into Ribs and Team at the time so I made the purchase. Also did the same for Valentine by Snail Mail, I thought the record sounded very cute to play on vinyl format. My collection actually has a lot of vinyl I’ve bought in that vein.

[Trent W]

5 minutes ago, Johnny said:

Absolutely not true. I will sometimes buy an album if it is one that I think is good, even if I am just a casual fan / listener of the actual artist. The last album I bought that fits this was Royals by Lorde—I'm not a huge fan but I was very into Ribs and Team at the time so I made the purchase. My collection actually has a lot of vinyl I've bought in that vein.

 

You are still a fan of music in general and collect music. The average person is not doing that.

 

For example there are not 20k people like you buying Lover and only Lover.

 

I really don't wanna come as a taylor hater cause Im a fan

 

But most of her fanbase has a chronic problem in their head when someone tells them than most of her physical sales come from her own fanbase. New or old.

 

No one even said that she wasn't popular with the GP because she's huge with streaming but her sales are just an anomaly thanks to her fanbase

 

 

[Taylor fanboy]

Are the swifties who adore Lover in the room with us right now?

 

for reputation's second fanbase.

 

Edited May 30 by Taylor fanboy

[dussymob]

16 hours ago, Trent W said:

The actual thought that the GP is buying Lover and not newer swifties is absolutely insane

 

The GP doesn't buy albums

That's what I'm saying. Swifties on this forum stay delusional 

[WildHeart]

2 hours ago, More Than A Melody said:

Hey hey

 

 

There is a fairer way - comparing first 10 songs from both. 

 

But of course you will keep with your average nonsense because despite albums like TTPD's first 10 songs stomping on Harry's House's top 10, you will say Harry's House is bigger because it has higher "average" than 31 songs album and somehow bigger

Edited May 30 by WildHeart

[Lorenzo22]

lover is just higher than most of her albums because it has her most recent smash hit, it's not that complicated