charts discussion HDD: Taylor Swift 6x #1 177k, Billie Eilish #2 149k, Twenty One Pilots #3 139k

[bad guy]

If TTPD continues to drop like this I can see Billie squeezing out a #1 next week especially if her streams remain stable. I would have never expected her to be doing better than her debut. Insane 

[Illuminati]

4 minutes ago, Hurem said:

Anyone with two functioning brain cells can see that in the streaming era, it will always be easier for an album with 31 tracks to get bigger numbers compared to an album with only 10 tracks. Not to mention the cult-like following that's obsessively streaming/buying the album, as opposed to Billie's organic success with the GP.

It's kinda a lame excuse imo. Does Billie deserve a #1 week? Yes. Having 31 tracks dilutes the streams, there's only so many times people can listen to all of the 2 hour long album in its entirety and it's not like Billie, the second most streamed female artist of all time, doesn't have a cult following of her own. Not to mention that no one forced Billie to craft an album that's only one track away from being an EP.

 

Taylor has so many albums to use as an example that even if TTPD was short it would have sold more

[fridayteenage]

That one album is getting 200 weeks huh? 

[Mitsuki]

I can't with people calling Billie's abusive Discovery Mode usage 'organic' and coming for Taylor. At least the later's 'inorganic' streams are given by fans who chose to do It instead of being forcefully exposed to the song. 

 

[Almodusa]

Yess TOP

[UnusualBoy]

How's Morgan that stable with both albums? Dangerous was already pulling 30k-ish and it's now back in the 40k range. 

[WildHeart]

17 minutes ago, Hurem said:

Anyone with two functioning brain cells can see that in the streaming era, it will always be easier for an album with 31 tracks to get bigger numbers compared to an album with only 10 tracks. Not to mention the cult-like following that's obsessively streaming/buying the album, as opposed to Billie's organic success with the GP.

Second week sales 

TTPD - 450k ("fanbase") 

HMHAS - 145k ("GP driven") 

 

If only you had the two functioning braincells you were talking about 

[Bonicap]

18 minutes ago, Hurem said:

Anyone with two functioning brain cells can see that in the streaming era, it will always be easier for an album with 31 tracks to get bigger numbers compared to an album with only 10 tracks. Not to mention the cult-like following that's obsessively streaming/buying the album, as opposed to Billie's organic success with the GP.

Anyone with two functioning brain cells would be able to have an argument more solid than "I don't like this artist so her success comes from a cult and I like this artist so her success comes from GP support". Grow up.

[Lightbringer007]

great hold for billie! 

[TeamThiem]

Oh snap, need to stream that 21 Pilots album!!

 

Didn't realize it was out.

[Feanor]

'TTPD' will be at 4.15M units by the end of this week.

The way even if you took out it's huge first week sales, it still would be the best selling album of the year by a big margin too, yet people still act like only Taylor's "cult!!!!" is consuming her music.

[Trent W]

Just now, WildHeart said:

Second week sales 

TTPD - 450k ("fanbase") 

HMHAS - 145k ("GP driven") 

 

If only you had the two functioning braincells you were talking about 

I'll say that it's obvious that Taylor has GP support

 

But if you read anywhere online the way people talk about HMHAS and TTPD would make you think those numbers should be inverted, everyone loves Billie right now even more than in 2019.

 

There is just too many swifties that will keep Taylor on top no matter what, also most swifties only listen to Taylor, that would explain why Lover is still so insanely high  

[naval23]

Amazing stable 2nd week drops by Billie - not everyone can relate 

 

[Papi Juancho]

13 minutes ago, fridayteenage said:

Where did pilots find 50k extra sales vs last album?

The era of "Let me buy this album to put in my room as a piece of art" is doing incredible things for alternative artists, I'm more surprised by the 30k streaming with zero songs on AM, Spotify, Deezer or Youtube. 

[Ger]

Those are EXCELLENT figures for 21P, oh wow

[Blade Runner]

39 minutes ago, Hurem said:

Anyone with two functioning brain cells can see that in the streaming era, it will always be easier for an album with 31 tracks to get bigger numbers compared to an album with only 10 tracks. Not to mention the cult-like following that's obsessively streaming/buying the album, as opposed to Billie's organic success with the GP.

You have to be chronically online (and also STUPID) to think Taylor Swift doesn't have support from the GP. 

 

Gays really leave in a bubble and they still act like 90% of women, especially straight women, aren't obsessed with Taylor. And they're GP too. 

 

Log off from ATRL and Twitter. You clearly need it. 

Edited May 28 by Blade Runner

[Kill Me]

13 minutes ago, period sis said:

Exactly!

Then why is Cowboy Carter the most frontloaded album of the year that is tumbling down every chart faster than shorter albums from khias like Benson Boone despite having 30 tracks?

[Donquizote]

I think billie will repeak with this era

 

[WildHeart]

1 minute ago, Trent W said:

There is just too many swifties that will keep Taylor on top no matter what, also most swifties only listen to Taylor, that would explain why Lover is still so insanely high

Lover's debut - 800k 

TTPD's debut - 2.6M 

 

Lover in April 2022 - #98 

Lover last week - #13

 

If swifties are the reason of Lover's success, why didn't she perform like that in 2019? "Swifties" were there. 

[Hurem]

11 minutes ago, Illuminati said:

It's kinda a lame excuse imo. Does Billie deserve a #1 week? Yes. Having 31 tracks dilutes the streams, there's only so many times people can listen to all of the 2 hour long album in its entirety and it's not like Billie, the second most streamed female artist of all time, doesn't have a cult following of her own. Not to mention that no one forced Billie to craft an album that's only one track away from being an EP.

 

Taylor has so many albums to use as an example that even if TTPD was short it would have sold more

It's not an excuse, but a fact? If one person decided to stream an entire album of Taylor's, it's gonna bring 3x more SEA units than if they streamed Billie's new album.

 

 

Speaking of their fans, I am not sure why all of you are so insecure cause I never mentioned Billie having a bigger following than Taylor?  Taylor is the biggest artist at the moment, but that doesn't negate the fact that her fanbase is as cult-like as BTS' or Nicki's for example. The type of canvas that lives through success of their faves, so they are ready to go above and beyond to make sure the album stays #1 for as many weeks as possible. 

[Trent W]

3 minutes ago, WildHeart said:

Lover's debut - 800k 

TTPD's debut - 2.6M 

 

Lover in April 2022 - #98 

Lover last week - #13

 

If swifties are the reason of Lover's success, why didn't she perform like that in 2019? "Swifties" were there. 

The albums sales are insanely high and albums sales are solely fanbase driven.

 

The GP doesn't buy albums.

 

But streams are definitely coming from the GP rediscovering her older stuff.

[WildHeart]

1 minute ago, Hurem said:

The type of canvas that lives through success of their faves, so they are ready to go above and beyond to make sure the album stays #1 for as many weeks as possible. 

Right, fans are streaming a six week old album so it can be #1... 

 

The way you accuse her fans to be obsessed with her success while... you are here with every possible mental gymnastics to belittle her success so you can somehow cope. Jokes write themselves at this point.

[Mr. Duff]

21P  I'm surprised, I better check out the album. That's insanely good for them!

[Hurem]

4 minutes ago, Blade Runner said:

You have to be chronically online (and also STUPID) to think Taylor Swift don't have support from the GP. 

 

Gays really leave in a bubble and they still act like 90% of women, especially straight women, aren't obsessed with Taylor. And they're GP too. 

 

Log off from ATRL and Twitter. You clearly need it. 

With this vocabulary, sounds like you should be the one logging off ATRL and Twitter 

 

I never said Taylor doesn't have GP's support. She's the biggest artist at the moment, GP support is a given. She does drain her fans' wallets to play the chart as much as she can though.

[Raspy]

the eyelashes using gP SuPpORT as a drag

i'll take it as compliment that taylor fanbase is way bigger than the  imaginary"gp" the little eyelashes keep foaming their mouth about

one with fuctioning brain would choose devoted fanbase over fickle gp that will drop you anytime like they kinda did with HTE

 

congrats to billie for being "gp" darling like katy perry and dua lipa used to i guess