news Democrats in full-blown 'freakout' over Biden

[Vermillion]

10 minutes ago, shyboi said:

 

 

y'all give him to much credit, as if he or his team have the intelligence to establish him as a dictator

 

if he wins, he will come, go and be forgotten 

Disagree wholeheartedly, full stop. 

 

I'm going to need folks to do deeper dives on Leonard Leo's plans to do away with Schedule F.

 

The Federalist Society, the Heritage Foundation, the Hudson and Claremont Institutes have all linked themselves to Project 2025. 

 

Please do your research people.

 

This isn't hyperbolic or alarmist, and what they've projected they plan to do with lasting impact is now well documented.

[Vermillion]

4 minutes ago, PoisonPill said:

FYI this administration got the Respect for Marriage Act, that codified nationwide protection for marriage equality, passed into law with a bipartisan vote in Congress in December 2022.

 

With the CURRENT Senate make-up, which will likely take a beating (and the majority) this cycle.

 

A hypothetical Senate Republican Majority Leader Rick Scott would absolutely drop the filibuster to pass a federal abortion ban and eliminate the ACA.

 

Period, point blank.

[Reflektor]

9 minutes ago, PoisonPill said:

FYI this administration got the Respect for Marriage Act, that codified nationwide protection for marriage equality, passed into law with a bipartisan vote in Congress in December 2022.

 

True -- but in true Big D-Democratic fashion, they weren't bold enough to actually codify the right to same-sex marriage, though it does make it more difficult for red states if Obergfell is repealed.

 

[PoisonPill]

Just now, Reflektor said:

True -- but in true Big D-Democratic fashion, they weren't bold enough to actually codify the right to same-sex marriage, though it does make it more difficult for red states if Obergfell is repealed.

 

Because they needed substantial Republican votes to get it passed. That's the reality of divided government, one can't make perfect the enemy of the good.

[Vermillion]

1 minute ago, PoisonPill said:

Because they needed substantial Republican votes to get it passed. That's the reality of divided government, one can't make perfect the enemy of the good.

When they eliminate the filibuster for what they want accomplished this entire discussion will be moot.

[Tylerbv]

Putting human ethics aside, Biden was dumb af for backing Israel when he knows his supporters basically all side with Palestine. I don't understand how this was a difficult decision. He never had anyone who supports Israel's vote anyways.

[Orsay]

Yeah, whatever powers that be in the DNC who thought running with Biden again was a good idea are so beyond dumb. I just can't believe they had NO other (younger) options, almost anyone would have been better ..

[ForgottenSoul]

2 hours ago, i spit on haters said:

The democratic establishment in a nutshell. Which is why we get virtue signaling, performative acts and they move further right. They couldn't even codify Roe v wade when they were in power. Thanks, Obama. 

 

And we firmly believe Israel shouldn't exists in its current form of a fascist, colonial project. It's an ethostate to keep Jews as the majority. So no, under those egregious circumstances it shouldn't exist. But you and others are trying to frame it as though we want the eradication of jews, which couldn't be more far removed from the truth. 

I mean its ATRL.. people here think Hamas are freedom fighters so.. 

[ForgottenSoul]

2 hours ago, Johnny Cash said:

"Lesser of two evils" gays still not understanding that mindset is what got you into this situation to begin with

I mean the options are two trash people you vote for the best of 2 evils its not that hard tbh

[ForgottenSoul]

46 minutes ago, Tylerbv said:

Putting human ethics aside, Biden was dumb af for backing Israel when he knows his supporters basically all side with Palestine. I don't understand how this was a difficult decision. He never had anyone who supports Israel's vote anyways.

Okay he doesnt support Israel then loses Jewish voters, moderates, people on the fence who support Israel.. Israel aint the reason hes losing at all and if he went in the other direction it would make him seem weak actually. 

 

1 hour ago, Espresso said:

Disagree wholeheartedly, full stop. 

 

I'm going to need folks to do deeper dives on Leonard Leo's plans to do away with Schedule F.

 

The Federalist Society, the Heritage Foundation, the Hudson and Claremont Institutes have all linked themselves to Project 2025. 

 

Please do your research people.

 

This isn't hyperbolic or alarmist, and what they've projected they plan to do with lasting impact is now well documented.

 

Yeah these people wont understand until they have no rights. 

Edited May 28 by ForgottenSoul

[ForgottenSoul]

1 hour ago, Raver said:

LGBTQ rights are being taken away under Biden. Abortion was taken away under Biden. Biden is now using abortion as a campaign promise and as a reason to vote for him when it was taken away TWO years ago. Why is he waiting until after he wins to do something? It's disgusting to be dangling rights in front of people like that to vote for him. 

What delusion its being taken away by who? Conseratives leaders in Conserative states, it was taken away due to Supreme court which who appointed? You people act like he can just wag his finger and Israel stops attacking gaza and all these issues magically get sorted.. 

 

LGBTQ rights and Abortion rights are under threat due to Conseratives trying to pin that on Biden is hilarious. 

[Raver]

3 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said:

What delusion its being taken away by who? Conseratives leaders in Conserative states, it was taken away due to Supreme court which who appointed? You people act like he can just wag his finger and Israel stops attacking gaza and all these issues magically get sorted.. 

 

LGBTQ rights and Abortion rights are under threat due to Conseratives trying to pin that on Biden is hilarious. 

Facts  are that abortion rights were taken away under his watch. Now he is using it as a campaign promise, why is he doing that? Why isn't he doing something about it when it happened two years ago. Yall will coddle this man and say he has no power but wanna say our rights are protected with him? Now thats laughable 

[ForgottenSoul]

7 minutes ago, Raver said:

Facts  are that abortion rights were taken away under his watch. Now he is using it as a campaign promise, why is he doing that? Why isn't he doing something about it when it happened two years ago. Yall will coddle this man and say he has no power but wanna say our rights are protected with him? Now thats laughable 

Facts are he had no way to stop it when it went to the supreme court. If you need 2/3 to pass certain stuff then yeah he cant do it. Rights are more protected under him then trump but Ill favorite this thread for when Trump wins and **** goes down. 

[Raver]

2 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said:

Facts are he had no way to stop it when it went to the supreme court. If you need 2/3 to pass certain stuff then yeah he cant do it. Rights are more protected under him then trump but Ill favorite this thread for when Trump wins and **** goes down. 

I disagree. Rights are not protected under Biden as we have seen the last few years. 

[PoisonPill]

1 hour ago, Tylerbv said:

Putting human ethics aside, Biden was dumb af for backing Israel when he knows his supporters basically all side with Palestine. I don't understand how this was a difficult decision. He never had anyone who supports Israel's vote anyways.

That's... not true, at all. The majority of Democrat Party voters have always supported Israel since polling began - and still do according to recent polls. And Jewish voters have historically heavily favored Democrats.

[ForgottenSoul]

25 minutes ago, Raver said:

I disagree. Rights are not protected under Biden as we have seen the last few years. 

You're just uniformed and clearly dont understand how **** works. 

Edited May 28 by ForgottenSoul

[Tylerbv]

25 minutes ago, PoisonPill said:

That's... not true, at all. The majority of Democrat Party voters have always supported Israel since polling began - and still do according to recent polls. And Jewish voters have historically heavily favored Democrats.

Hm let me clarify that I meant young voters, who are definitely (…well maybe not this time given the **** show) voting in larger and larger numbers, and he should want to appeal to. The biggest swing that will cause him to lose will likely come from young voters, many due to his actions here.

[PoisonPill]

19 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said:

You're just uniformed and clearly dont understand how **** works. 

Thank you for saying that. I wanted to be like "do you need someone to explain the three branches of government?" but didn't want to be mean  

[Gwendolyn]

47 minutes ago, PoisonPill said:

That's... not true, at all. The majority of Democrat Party voters have always supported Israel since polling began - and still do according to recent polls. And Jewish voters have historically heavily favored Democrats.

Do you have a poll to back this up? Because many people on ATRL say the opposite, and I'm not sure what's true and what's not.

Edited May 28 by Gwendolyn

[Communion]

29 minutes ago, Gwendolyn said:

Do you have a poll to back this up? Because many people on ATRL say the opposite, and I'm not sure what's true and what's not.

Opinion and approval polling is an imperfect science, with often polls cited to show Israel as popular being framed as "Who do you side with more - Israel or KHAMAS?" or "Do you agree Israel has a right to seek the destruction of the terrorist group Hamas following the atrocities of October 7th???" ddd

 

When you get to actual specific policy, majority of those who would vote for Biden believe Israel is committing a genocide or want a permanent ceasefire or ending arm sales. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Tovitov]

I don't feel great about the election right now either, but Politico is infamous for their "Dems in Dissaray" articles. It's kind of a meme at this point. 

[ClashAndBurn]

35 minutes ago, Tovitov said:

I don't feel great about the election right now either, but Politico is infamous for their "Dems in Dissaray" articles. It's kind of a meme at this point. 

well, that's been the pattern for over a decade now. Dem operatives are always panicking internally over the statistics looking really bad for them, it leaks out to Politico/Punchbowl/etc., and then the Joe Biden Whisperers on Morning Joe have to do damage control and downplay it as pointless bedwetting. It's generally clockwork.

[Tovitov]

36 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said:

well, that's been the pattern for over a decade now. Dem operatives are always panicking internally over the statistics looking really bad for them, it leaks out to Politico/Punchbowl/etc., and then the Joe Biden Whisperers on Morning Joe have to do damage control and downplay it as pointless bedwetting. It's generally clockwork.

Except Democrats have arguably won the last few elections, both federally and at the state level. In my state of NJ for example:

 

Shot - https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/11/new-jersey-gop-statehouse-control-00120417

 

Chaser - https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/08/6-takeaways-from-new-jersey-democrats-unexpected-big-night-00126056

 

So what Im saying is, democrats are always worried, Politico will usually report on it and democrats have been doing fine despite the worry. 

Edited May 29 by Tovitov

[CottageHore]

These ******* imbeciles "this is the end of democracy". YEP! And we've been telling y'all to dump Biden for years because we knew if it's between his horrible track record and Trump's (who automatically has a one-up because he hasn't ****** up the country in the last 3 years and America is sick of Biden), Biden is destined to lose and here we are 5 months away from the election and it's too late to put someone else in now. The Biden admin just handed Trump the presidency and it's all because they're so disgustingly selfish and stuck in their old ways. They always need to have their nose up the ass of the sitting President because God forbid we shake things up and give someone else a chance. The two party system is a joke and it's starting to crumble. Too bad most of y'all are privileged brats who refuse to vote 3rd party because it's "never going to happen"… 

[Sprite]

Don't vote for him!

 

Vote him out!