discussion Netflix CEO debuts delusion, says Barbenheimer would've been just as big on streaming

[Virgos Groove]

The CEO of panned production company/streaming service Netflix, who has been trying for years to kill the theatrical experience, has some thoughts on Barbenheimer's success.

 

 

Challenge for ATRLers: name one (1) culturally relevant Netflix original movie!

 

[Da Vinci]

"My son's an editor, he watched 'Lawrence of Arabia' on his phone"

 

[glitch]

14 minutes ago, Virgos Groove said:

Challenge for ATRLers: name one (1) culturally relevant Netflix original movie!

I mean he's lying but there have been some big Netflix films like Bird Box and Don't Look Up

[NoAngelus]

I stopped watching Netflix production few years ago and it was the best decision ever. 

[Hector]

5 minutes ago, glitch said:

I mean he's lying but there have been some big Netflix films like Bird Box and Don't Look Up

Leave The World Behind was very big last year as well. 

[Paultea]

14 minutes ago, glitch said:

I mean he's lying but there have been some big Netflix films like Bird Box and Don't Look Up

 

8 minutes ago, Hector said:

Leave The World Behind was very big last year as well. 

Could those movies be even bigger had they been released theatrically? Like in an ideal pre/post Covid market because obviously some came out when theaters weren't fully back. 
 

This man is adamant that even the biggest Netflix movies wouldn't do any better going to theaters. 

[Gossip_Boy]

Yeah, no. People usually watch Netflix movies as a background while doing something else. He knows this.

Barbenheimer was something that people needed to be invested in. It's why women of all ages were dressed in pink and people were watching two movies that are completely different from one another. Oppenheimer isn't exactly a movie you can watch while scrolling on your phone.

[bliaz]

Well, your son is a stupid and Netflix productions are trash 

[Mirtilo]

Yesterday I watched Oppenheimer at the comfort of my house - which is something that I value -, but I understood what I've lost not watching it in IMAX. Streaming cannot replace the theatrical experience 

[Mr. Blue_Shirt]

The idea of people watching Barbie and Oppenheimer back-to-back while they're doing house chores is kinda depressing

[Space Cowboy]

Barbie was a terrible film

[KingWitch]

5 minutes ago, Space Cowboy said:

Barbie was a terrible film

Agreed, the second half especially, they way they resolved the conflict in the movie was very underwhelming. But it had great marketing

[kimberly]

seeing movies WITH other people is a completely different experience... Barbie would have been cute at home, but nowhere near as relevant, and definitely not as acclaimed without its real-life blockbuster success. Oppenheimer would have been a niche release no one in real life cared about.

 

in fact, in a world where Barbie dropped on streaming and Oppenheimer in theaters on the same day, they both would have suffered drastically.

[ToMmY]

14 minutes ago, Space Cowboy said:

Barbie was a terrible film

 

[IBeMe]

1 hour ago, Virgos Groove said:

Challenge for ATRLers: name one (1) culturally relevant Netflix original movie!

 

Not a movie but tbh Squid Games the tv series was IMMENSE and ground breaking in many ways. Everyone was talking about it for a solid year. 

That said, I agree that Barbenheimer wouldnt have been a thing if both debuted on netflix tbh. Part of the charm was going and dressing up and stuff (especially for Barbie) and for Oppenheimer you really needed the big screen to FEEL that atomic bomb drop scene

[IBeMe]

19 minutes ago, Space Cowboy said:

Barbie was a terrible film

agreed. the message has been hammered down our throats for years now (which is a good thing) but nothing ground breaking about it at all. I thought it would have a unique take on feminist theory but instead it was the same old same old. The only good thing about it was the aesthetics. They NAILED the Barbie world landscape and visuals and stuff but the story, writing and acting wasn't groundbreaking or compelling AT ALL. Hype over substance that's for sure. In some ways, Oppenheimer also suffered similarly though the acting in that one was beyond excellent. But the script etc wasn't as compelling as a film of its caliber and of its topic would make you think it'd be

[okgo]

ntm on Ted

 

 

[Virgos Groove]

6 minutes ago, IBeMe said:

Not a movie but tbh Squid Games the tv series was IMMENSE and ground breaking in many ways. Everyone was talking about it for a solid year. 

That said, I agree that Barbenheimer wouldnt have been a thing if both debuted on netflix tbh. Part of the charm was going and dressing up and stuff (especially for Barbie) and for Oppenheimer you really needed the big screen to FEEL that atomic bomb drop scene

Their series are a different story. Squid Games, House of Cards, Stranger Things, OITNB... they've produced some huge stuff.

 

Their movies, on the other hand, are mostly terrible and haven't had any sort of impact since they started throwing $200M budgets to the most mediocre of ideas. Hell, Red Notice had the only two movie stars of the 21st century and a 200M budget and it barely made a blip (and, no, those fraudulent "record viewing hours!!1!!" don't count; Snyder already exposed them).

 

Bird Box and Don't Look Up are the exception. I guess Glass Onion too, but I feel like that one would've been an even bigger deal if they gave it a proper theatrical window (it would've made them more money too, but they're willing to take that loss to sabotage movie theatres).

[okgo]

5 minutes ago, Virgos Groove said:

Their series are a different story. Squid Games, House of Cards, Stranger Things, OITNB... they've produced some huge stuff.

 

Their movies, on the other hand, are mostly terrible and haven't had any sort of impact since they started throwing $200M budgets to the most mediocre of ideas. Hell, Red Notice had the only two movie stars of the 21st century and a 200M budget and it barely made a blip (and, no, those fraudulent "record viewing hours!!1!!" don't count; Snyder already exposed them).

 

Bird Box and Don't Look Up are the exception. I guess Glass Onion too, but I feel like that one would've been an even bigger deal if they gave it a proper theatrical window (it would've made them more money too, but they're willing to take that loss to sabotage movie theatres).

you forgot to mention Lindsay Lohan's Irish Wish and its tourism boost, now that's impact!

 

https://travel2ireland.ie/netflix-film-irish-wish-set-to-bring-huge-tourism-boost-to-ireland-in-2024-as-searches-soar/

https://lovindublin.com/entertainment/irish-wish-lindsay-lohan-netflix

https://media.ireland.com/en-ie/news-releases/global/new-movie-puts-ireland-on-everyone's-wish-list.aspx

 

 

 

[EnigmaticAndroid]

1 hour ago, IBeMe said:

agreed. the message has been hammered down our throats for years now (which is a good thing) but nothing ground breaking about it at all. I thought it would have a unique take on feminist theory but instead it was the same old same old. The only good thing about it was the aesthetics. They NAILED the Barbie world landscape and visuals and stuff but the story, writing and acting wasn't groundbreaking or compelling AT ALL. Hype over substance that's for sure. In some ways, Oppenheimer also suffered similarly though the acting in that one was beyond excellent. But the script etc wasn't as compelling as a film of its caliber and of its topic would make you think it'd be

I think what it was saying about feminism and womanhood was basic Gender 101, but was very necessarybfor this time. But what it was saying about masculinity- how the patriarchy hurts men too, men need to start understanding who they are apart from women and material things to be truly happy as men and people, Ken's arc as a commentary on incel culture- was pretty inspired and not something spoken about in the mainstream. 

[Nintendoes]

Barbie is boring and can be watched at home or on your phone.

Oppenheimer was big just because Barbie released at the same time. The movie itself is not that spectacular. It's dragged out and brought nothing new to the table.