ithinkheknowsoutsold Posted May 24 Posted May 24 She could've released Red TV the week after 30 to block 30's subsequent weeks at number one but she chose not to, generous queen 3 2
TayDuaStan Posted May 24 Posted May 24 (edited) Because she wanted do some charity. Otherwise Red TV would've blocked 30's streaming debut Imagine a re-recording blocking your brand new album RED TV - 90.8M 30 - 60.9M Edited May 24 by TayDuaStan 3
Kristie Kuwa Posted May 24 Posted May 24 1 hour ago, Hurem said: Because Taylor, like bullies usually do, only goes for weaker targets. That's why she sabotaged Katy when she was at her lowest, Olivia Rodrigo who was a newbie, and now Billie. You will never see her try to pull that **** with the likes of Beyonce or Adele. She did actually by making AMC leak Beys surprise concert Film and push hers before Bey DURING the actual Tour run just out of spite. Taylor is CRAZY and desperate like no other artist 2 3 4
perfectillusion204 Posted May 24 Posted May 24 1 hour ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: because she didnt want to get blocked from #1 First response is the only correct answer. Close thread! 1 1
Folklore89sm Posted May 24 Posted May 24 Not yall still going on about November 2021. We've lived a thousand lives since then.
Badgalbriel Posted May 24 Posted May 24 Just now, Kristie Kuwa said: She did actually by making AMC leak Beys surprise concert Film and push hers before Bey DURING the actual Tour run just out of spite. Taylor is CRAZY and desperate like no other artist The conspiracy theories you guys come up with. She made the AMC LEAK Bey's film now? 1
liam13 Posted May 24 Posted May 24 1 minute ago, Kristie Kuwa said: She did actually by making AMC leak Beys surprise concert Film and push hers before Bey DURING the actual Tour run just out of spite. Taylor is CRAZY and desperate like no other artist yall just make stuff up now don't yall nurse! 1
dussel_06 Posted May 24 Posted May 24 1 hour ago, Hurem said: Because Taylor, like bullies usually do, only goes for weaker targets. That's why she sabotaged Katy when she was at her lowest, Olivia Rodrigo who was a newbie, and now Billie. You will never see her try to pull that **** with the likes of Beyonce or Adele. That's not true. Katy was coming from a huge era. And Taylor came for Katy when Katy was a bigger popstar. Dark Horse and Roar are huge smashes so nobody expected Katy the nosedive on her next era. The thing is these girls did her dirty. Katy trying to sabotage her tour, Billie dragging and being shady to her and I'm not sure what happens to Olivia but I'm sure something happened in the backgrounds She never came for Beyonce, Adele, Gaga, Rihanna, and even Ariana whose previous manager is a major nemesis. That's because they never came for her too. But we know she can easily beat them if she wants to. I mean she hasn't even announce the boxscores of eras tour to let the Renaissance Tour shine. And she's very supportive of a lot of new and upcoming artists. 5 5
OrgVisual Posted May 24 Posted May 24 1 hour ago, Hurem said: Because Taylor, like bullies usually do, only goes for weaker targets. That's why she sabotaged Katy when she was at her lowest, Olivia Rodrigo who was a newbie, and now Billie. You will never see her try to pull that **** with the likes of Beyonce or Adele. Well said
OrgVisual Posted May 24 Posted May 24 13 minutes ago, dussel_06 said: That's not true. Katy was coming from a huge era. And Taylor came for Katy when Katy was a bigger popstar. Dark Horse and Roar are huge smashes so nobody expected Katy the nosedive on her next era. The thing is these girls did her dirty. Katy trying to sabotage her tour, Billie dragging and being shady to her and I'm not sure what happens to Olivia but I'm sure something happened in the backgrounds She never came for Beyonce, Adele, Gaga, Rihanna, and even Ariana whose previous manager is a major nemesis. That's because they never came for her too. But we know she can easily beat them if she wants to. I mean she hasn't even announce the boxscores of eras tour to let the Renaissance Tour shine. And she's very supportive of a lot of new and upcoming artists. I'm not sure what happened but Taylor is definitely a victim. yeah yeah 4
OrgVisual Posted May 24 Posted May 24 33 minutes ago, ithinkheknowsoutsold said: She could've released Red TV the week after 30 to block 30's subsequent weeks at number one but she chose not to, generous queen She wouldn't know how much Adele would do at the time (nobody did btw) given that "25" debuted with over 3M first week and 1M second week. It's still a risk that Adele could still block her on her 2nd week. So that's not a smart choice at all 1
Keeandga Posted May 24 Posted May 24 17 minutes ago, dussel_06 said: That's not true. Katy was coming from a huge era. And Taylor came for Katy when Katy was a bigger popstar. Dark Horse and Roar are huge smashes so nobody expected Katy the nosedive on her next era. Wasn't Katy flopping/underperforming since Birthday? & the singles before Witness also flopped/underperformed? she was definitely at her lowest. 2
Pinkbutterflies Posted May 24 Posted May 24 1 hour ago, Hurem said: Because Taylor, like bullies usually do, only goes for weaker targets. That's why she sabotaged Katy when she was at her lowest, Olivia Rodrigo who was a newbie, and now Billie. You will never see her try to pull that **** with the likes of Beyonce or Adele. Oh please. At any point in her career, she would have crushed bey
Støned Posted May 24 Author Posted May 24 40 minutes ago, ithinkheknowsoutsold said: She could've released Red TV the week after 30 to block 30's subsequent weeks at number one but she chose not to, generous queen This! If she was that petty, 30 would've been #1 for less weeks. I guess it only shows she and Adele have no issues with each other at all.
Rep2000 Posted May 24 Posted May 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, ReneighIsHere said: so how many weeks does someone have to wait before they can drop their album without taylor pulling all sort of tricks to stay at #1? because it's been more than a month, taylor's album has already spent 4 weeks at #1 but it seems like it's not enough. Her album would have naturally fell to #2 with ~230k units for 1 week and then go back to #1 the week later, most artists would have just let it go ESPECIALLY established artists like her, she's the only artist of her stature that resorts to these cheap tactics just to extend her run at #1... People keep using "cheap tactics" as if the competitors are not also doing them. If we want to look at things that way, then I can also say that Billie is intentionally making this 1 sided feud against Taylor to gather her fans' support for a better 1st week. Her projected 300k sales are now getting another 50k, which makes this her biggest debut when it was originally predicted to be worse. Now that's shady. (And if you wanna know how many weeks to avoid a big release, then that's literally Billie's manager's job to work it out. But he rathers quoting shady stan twitter tweets instead.) Edited May 24 by Rep2000 1
dussel_06 Posted May 24 Posted May 24 18 minutes ago, Keeandga said: Wasn't Katy flopping/underperforming since Birthday? & the singles before Witness also flopped/underperformed? she was definitely at her lowest. Birthday is like the 4th/5th single??? Of course it won't smash. Taylor came for Katy when 1989 wasn't even out and Katy hasn't dropped the lead single for Witness. Katy was a bigger popstar back then. Taylor was still coming from Red era and she only has Shake it Off.
Rep2000 Posted May 24 Posted May 24 1 hour ago, Kristie Kuwa said: She did actually by making AMC leak Beys surprise concert Film and push hers before Bey DURING the actual Tour run just out of spite. Taylor is CRAZY and desperate like no other artist I just can't with this history rewritten conspiracy. Taylor made AMC do what?!? Now this is just crazy talking.
ReneighIsHere Posted May 24 Posted May 24 27 minutes ago, Rep2000 said: People keep using "cheap tactics" as if the competitors are not also doing them. If we want to look at things that way, then I can also say that Billie is intentionally making this 1 sided feud against Taylor to gather her fans' support for a better 1st week. Her projected 300k sales are now getting another 50k, which makes this her biggest debut when it was originally predicted to be worse. Now that's shady. (And if you wanna know how many weeks to avoid a big release, then that's literally Billie's manager's job to work it out. But he rathers quoting shady stan twitter tweets instead.) billie only released the versions because taylor did.. also trying to get a #1 debut is different than doing all that for a 5th week at #1. It's true that competitive weeks push the fans to go harder, but billie's predictions increased before any of the versions. HDD underestimated her streaming numbers (like they'be been doing with almost everyone lately), she would have reached 300k regardless 3
cat1867 Posted May 24 Posted May 24 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ReneighIsHere said: billie only released the versions because taylor did.. also trying to get a #1 debut is different than doing all that for a 5th week at #1. It's true that competitive weeks push the fans to go harder, but billie's predictions increased before any of the versions. HDD underestimated her streaming numbers (like they'be been doing with almost everyone lately), she would have reached 300k regardless billie had her 8 different vinyl versions even before taylor added her extra digital versions during release week. what gave taylor the pure sale advantage were cd and vinyl sales that sold a few weeks ago but started shipping this week since the manufacturing was done. that not the digital variants was what guaranteed taylor the #1. taylor's memo version was just a signal that she was trying to the get the #1 not something that moved many units. Edited May 24 by cat1867
Rep2000 Posted May 24 Posted May 24 Taylor is still being nice with Billie this week, since she waited for the tracking week to be over to release the signed physicals. This is just another chart battle for her, while the obsessed haters are acting like she just killed Billie's career and her manager or something. Such obsession. 1
Feanor Posted May 24 Posted May 24 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kristie Kuwa said: She did actually by making AMC leak Beys surprise concert Film and push hers before Bey DURING the actual Tour run just out of spite. Taylor is CRAZY and desperate like no other artist What in the conspiracy theory. Not only did Taylor not make AMC leak Beyoncé's concert film, who btw concluded her deal with AMC only after Taylor, as AMC themselves described their Taylor-deal as "the inaugural step of a new line of business". But also the reason why Taylor pushed out her film when she did are very well detailed already: Quote When one studio was discussing the film with the Swifts, the presumption was that this might be a 2025 release, something to drop in theaters after the tour ran its course. But the Swifts recognized that putting the tour in theaters now would capitalize on the fan fervor without cannibalizing tour sales. So it dropped today without warning to the studios, and that's scary to them. Indeed, AMC is already talking about what other major artists might want a Taylor-style deal. Beyoncé, your move. Puck News from September 1, 2023 She did not want to wait until the tour was over in 2025 to release the film, and not because of what others were doing. Other artists that have also released tour movies before their tours finished include Coldplay, The Weeknd, Lizzo and Billie Eilish as well. This is a common strategy that you twisted in your delusional mind as spite to Beyoncé. Edited May 24 by Feanor
chiliam Posted May 24 Posted May 24 You guys are crazy to think a re-record will outdebut Adele hype big release after 25 3m debut week. In the end Red TV outstream by wide margin. But no one could predict that Adele would underperformed like that back then. If its Midnights vs 30 then Taylor would keep the date.
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