Redstreak Posted May 23 Posted May 23 28 minutes ago, gustavothehuman said: She's only a feminist when it affects her and it's pretty obvious at this point. Feminism is when a woman makes herself smaller for someone else 7 1 2
Rino Posted May 23 Posted May 23 Billie it's time to release HMHS (Finneas cum stained version) vinylsΒ 13 1
Gwendolyn Posted May 23 Posted May 23 All this beef is going to do is make Billboard reform the rules once againΒ 5
SweetenerNostalgia Posted May 23 Posted May 23 I think the problem here is that Taylor is not going to be #1 without effort. If she were to block Billie without doing anything like in the week of radical optimism, the story would be different. Β 25 by Adele, for example, sold huge amounts after its debut week, being able to calmly block albums that sold 200 or 300k. TTPD is incredibly successful but releasing extra versions to block an album that without these would easily be #1 feels wrong. Β anyways, the album is very stable so with a deluxe version in the future it could reach #1 1 6
Arrows Posted May 23 Posted May 23 1 minute ago, dawnettakins said: How embarassing and pathetic, according to all the Swifties calling the same methods being used by Billie anyway. Β Bet they have a different response when it comes to this tho.Β And so do you - or do you think Billie is also "embarassing and pathetic"? 4
Kassi Posted May 23 Posted May 23 I have insider information stating that Taylor has contacted ATRL to have them replace Billie's banner with TTPD Β 1
Zari Posted May 23 Posted May 23 6 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said: Taylor is truly the VILLAIN of music Β She's not being villainness enough. We need a Billie diss track QUICKLYΒ 1
badidearight Posted May 23 Posted May 23 the meltdowns are hilariousΒ Β the way people who hate taylor talk about her is so intense Β impatiently waiting for the anthology vinyls next! 4 1 3 3
JennyWayne Posted May 23 Posted May 23 Weeks where other artists are predicted to be close to Taylor in sales are always exciting. We love her scrambling. Β Β 2
Khal Posted May 23 Posted May 23 Really hope some of you are trolling by being this overdramatic. It's really not that serious Β Billie will be fine with her #2. She'll always be #1 in the eyes of Mother EarthΒ 4
dawnettakins Posted May 23 Posted May 23 2 minutes ago, Burn said: Billboard need to introduce a rule just for Taylor to divide her sales and only count 1/4 of them since that's probably a more realistic representation of the amount of people buying the album. I tend to (and think it's totally fair to) cut her sales and streams at least in half to get a more accurate and realistic picture of her sales between all the spam releases and duplicate sales. Β Billboard charts are total frauds these days tbh what with how the top "sellers" play them and manipulate.Β 1 1 4
Thor Posted May 23 Posted May 23 This is by far the most blatant and aggressive feud between two pop stars in a long long time Β 1
woohoo Posted May 23 Posted May 23 4 minutes ago, Burn said: Billboard need to introduce a rule just for Taylor to divide her sales and only count 1/4 of them since that's probably a more realistic representation of the amount of people buying the album. 2.6M/4 is still 650k. She still Stomps. But as I've said in the past, we divide her, we divide every other artist as well with more than one version on vinyl and one version on digital. Not even so much as a deluxe version.Β
Popular Post rΓ©veuse Posted May 23 Popular Post Posted May 23 (edited) At this point, Taylor Swift is neither an artist nor a musician. She is a capitalist who will take what ever it gets to get money. This behaviour is absolutely shameless, disgusting, and evil but this is nothing new. Β She sabotaged Kate Bowen while she was up-and-coming (Mind you, this was during the time when she called out Scooter Braun for sabotaging her) Β When Katy released her album, Taylor put her music back on Spotify. When Olivia was massively successful with her debut album, Taylor demanded credits in order to get a profit (she also released a vinyl a week after Olivia released her debut album). When artists like Drake, Rihanna, and SZA were releasing, Taylor dropped eight remixes and four digital versions of her album. When Billie Eilish complained about greed in the industry, Taylor dropped new variants, When Jungkook released his debut, Taylor dropped deluxes from 10 years ago, and finally, when Sabrina was having a massive hit with Espresso, Taylor released CDs to get on top. Β It's becoming a pattern and she does not like other women (Or artists in that matter) succeeding. Β She also has a pattern of greed, acting innocent about the Ticketmaster deal even though she knew about everythingβher merchandise, her billionaire status, etc.. Β Back to the previous topic, it's quite funny how she calls herself a feminist when actually she's a misogynist. She constantly feuds with other women, sends her fans to cyberbully women, and uses feminism to her benefit. She attacked Nicki Minaj when she pointed out double-standards in award shows, and she mocked Kim Kardashian repeatedly by mocking her robbery in the LWYMMD music video, still referencing a decades-old feud and attacking her, and even going to the point where a death threat was in a song and dragging Kim's kids into it. Β I need you to know that Taylor Swift is NOT a Girl's Girl. She is just a capitalist. Β Edited May 23 by rΓ©veuse 27 3 1 14
Jay07 Posted May 23 Posted May 23 2 minutes ago, Arrows said: And so do you - or do you think Billie is also "embarassing and pathetic"? You realize who initiated this "war" with the first three variants? Is Billie supposed to lie down and take it? This is obviously targeted harassment and bullying. This is her SIXTH variant. She didn't have this many on release weekΒ Β This is beyond pathetic. 9 3
JorgeM Posted May 23 Posted May 23 1 minute ago, dawnettakins said: I tend to (and think it's totally fair to) cut her sales and streams at least in half to get a more accurate and realistic picture of her sales between all the spam releases and duplicate sales. Β Billboard charts are total frauds these days tbh what with how the top "sellers" play them and manipulate.Β Are you cutting people who attend eras tour in a half too? Only counting their legs? Well still with half bodies at her tour she is destroying other artist attendance numbersΒ 1
Selfloathingpoet Posted May 23 Posted May 23 (edited) Taylor releasing more variations that no one asked for and that add absolutely nothing to an already dull album. Love Tay but... Edited May 23 by Selfloathingpoet 3
Marla Singer Posted May 23 Posted May 23 Oh wow. I think Billie got under her scales even more than Olivia did. 1
The Music Industry Posted May 23 Posted May 23 2 minutes ago, dawnettakins said: I tend to (and think it's totally fair to) cut her sales and streams at least in half to get a more accurate and realistic picture of her sales between all the spam releases and duplicate sales. Β Billboard charts are total frauds these days tbh what with how the top "sellers" play them and manipulate.Β Literally every other big female artist a bunch of variants. Ariana had like 9. Dua had a dozen. Billie has over 15. It's not Taylor Swift's fault they don't sell. She doesn't manipulate any more or any less than the others, she just has the power to sell.Β 4 1 1
Rep2000 Posted May 23 Posted May 23 1 minute ago, rΓ©veuse said: At this point, Taylor Swift is neither an artist nor a musician. She is a malevolent capitalist who will take what ever it gets to get money. This behaviour is absolutely shameless, disgusting, and evil but this is nothing new. Β She sabotaged Kate Bowen while she was up-and-coming (Mind you, this was during the time when she called out Scooter Braun for sabotaging her) Β When Katy released her album, Taylor put her music back on Spotify. When Olivia was massively successful with her debut album, Taylor demanded credits in order to get a profit (she also released a vinyl a week after Olivia released her debut album). When artists like Drake, Rihanna, and SZA were releasing, Taylor dropped eight remixes and four digital versions of her album. When Billie Eilish complained about greed in the industry, Taylor dropped new variants, When Jungkook released his debut, Taylor dropped deluxes from 10 years ago, and finally, when Sabrina was having a massive hit with Espresso, Taylor released CDs to get on top. Β It's becoming a pattern and she does not like other women (Or artists in that matter) succeeding. Β She also has a pattern of greed, acting innocent about the Ticketmaster deal even though she knew about everythingβher merchandise, her billionaire status, etc.. Β Back to the previous topic, it's quite funny how she calls herself a feminist when actually she's a misogynist. She constantly feuds with other women, sends her fans to cyberbully women, and uses feminism to her benefit. She attacked Nicki Minaj when she pointed out double-standards in award shows, and she mocked Kim Kardashian repeatedly by mocking her robbery in the LWYMMD music video, still referencing a decades-old feud and attacking her, and even going to the point where a death threat was in a song and dragging Kim's kids into it. Β I need you to know that Taylor Swift is NOT a Girl's Girl. She is just a capitalist. Β Gurl, just go touch grass like a normal person. You are malding and balding over 3 live songs lol Β 4 7
Zari Posted May 23 Posted May 23 ATRL needs to understand that Billie is not a victim in this AT all. She threw the first stone (and she honestly did it already before the vinyl stuff happend) and Taylor is rightfully retaliating.Β 7 14
woohoo Posted May 23 Posted May 23 1 minute ago, rΓ©veuse said: At this point, Taylor Swift is neither an artist nor a musician. She is a malevolent capitalist who will take what ever it gets to get money. This behaviour is absolutely shameless, disgusting, and evil but this is nothing new. Β She sabotaged Kate Bowen while she was up-and-coming (Mind you, this was during the time when she called out Scooter Braun for sabotaging her) Β When Katy released her album, Taylor put her music back on Spotify. When Olivia was massively successful with her debut album, Taylor demanded credits in order to get a profit (she also released a vinyl a week after Olivia released her debut album). When artists like Drake, Rihanna, and SZA were releasing, Taylor dropped eight remixes and four digital versions of her album. When Billie Eilish complained about greed in the industry, Taylor dropped new variants, When Jungkook released his debut, Taylor dropped deluxes from 10 years ago, and finally, when Sabrina was having a massive hit with Espresso, Taylor released CDs to get on top. Β It's becoming a pattern and she does not like other women (Or artists in that matter) succeeding. Β She also has a pattern of greed, acting innocent about the Ticketmaster deal even though she knew about everythingβher merchandise, her billionaire status, etc.. Β Back to the previous topic, it's quite funny how she calls herself a feminist when actually she's a misogynist. She constantly feuds with other women, sends her fans to cyberbully women, and uses feminism to her benefit. She attacked Nicki Minaj when she pointed out double-standards in award shows, and she mocked Kim Kardashian repeatedly by mocking her robbery in the LWYMMD music video, still referencing a decades-old feud and attacking her, and even going to the point where a death threat was in a song and dragging Kim's kids into it. Β I need you to know that Taylor Swift is NOT a Girl's Girl. She is just a capitalist. Β For starters, Katy had it coming. Another male who worked on Taylor's song supposedly initiated the writing credits from Olivia. Kim K gets whatever is coming to her in any situation. Rihanna and drake and the rest, it's chart battles. Almost every artist has used a tactic to get to the top. If you can't take the heat, in Taylor's case the volcano, move your release dates.Β 2 4
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