swissman Posted November 8 Posted November 8 People who can't see the quality of this album are saying more about themselves than the record itself, it seems. 6 1
Mariano Posted November 8 Posted November 8 If you look carefully at the noms she got, she deserves all of them. It's just that she can fit in a lot of different genres. Bodyguard, Levi's Jeans are great. Spagetti deserves melodic rap performance too. And CC and Texas obviously deserve their noms even more. Hope she wins AOTY this time, but if she doesn't it's not a big deal Grammys are obvi not very reliable nowadays. 8
swissman Posted November 8 Posted November 8 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Tayman said: If this nominations would've been for Renaissance aka HER BEST ALBUM that would be fair, but for CC? ... I agree that RENAISSANCE is a stronger album overall, but COWBOY CARTER is still very deserving. RENAISSANCE's 9 nominations aren't even that far behind. As an album it has less genre-play than COWBOY CARTER which accounts for CC's two more nominations. REN got nominations in Dance and R&B, whereas CC got nominations in Country, Americana, Pop, and Rap. Edited November 8 by swissman 1
ScorpiosGroove Posted November 8 Posted November 8 33 minutes ago, G.U.Y. Gaga said: She can't blame roc nation this time give her an hour or two 1
Blade Runner Posted November 8 Posted November 8 And her fans want us to believe she's "underrated" and "mistreated". Pick a narrative. You CAN'T have it both ways lol 6 1
Tayman Posted November 8 Posted November 8 6 minutes ago, swissman said: People who can't see the quality of this album are saying more about themselves than the record itself, it seems. But sis, saying this makes no sense. Music is subjective, I'm not a Bey stan but I LOVED Renaissance and didn't enjoy CC not even a little bit, and as a swiftie I don't think Taylor deserves any Grammy for TTPD at all and I'm sure a lot of swifties would come for my neck for saying this, but at the end of the day that's the fun of discussing music. 1 1
Cloudy Posted November 8 Posted November 8 Why do I feel she will go empty handed? Hopefully not, it'd be so cool to see her go home with a bunch of them!
swissman Posted November 8 Posted November 8 (edited) On 11/8/2024 at 12:52 PM, G.U.Y. said: According to the hive, everyone who disagrees with the excessive nominations Bey is getting is now racist? Why did you just make this up though? Even if we acknowledge your use of hyperbole as not literal fact, the honest hyperbole would be more like "no one who disagrees with the nominations is getting called racist" because in the four pages of this thread so far, the word "racist" or "racism" has occurred in only three instances: In response to someone who likened her nominations to SJW pandering and saying that this is why Tr*mp won (so, in response to someone making it about race, first) By me, while describing the hardship that Linda Martell faced in the 1960s/1970s, so: not what you're describing at all By you, just now Edited November 14 by swissman 2
iHype. Posted November 8 Posted November 8 The genre spamming she does with submissions definitely requires a bigger discussion on if that even should be allowed. This was clearly marketed as a Country album, and the only genre it really should've gotten noms in was Country. All of the songs even when mixing/incorporating other genres and sounds still tie to the overall prominent theme of being a Country project. Trying to individually analyze them and then separate them into 15 completely different genres because one has a piano production, one has rapping in a verse, one has an Americana artist featured, etc is silly. Also besides that, it's borderline greedy and ridiculous she takes nominations and wins from artists who actually put out core music in other genres because she decided to just submit a random deep cut in a lesser genre knowing it'd be carried off her name. 5 4
Burn Posted November 8 Posted November 8 57 minutes ago, DemDam92 said: I hope Charli will win all categories, tired of always the same nominees just because Carters buy all votes and pressure everyone that his wife didn't win album of the year so far ARE YOU ON GLUE? 4
Imaginary Friend Posted November 8 Posted November 8 Both her and sabrina have better albums that were more deserving of a nomination than their most recent releases but I guess that's just the way things work out Von Dutch truly deserved though, glad to see it got its own nomination 1
R.E.M. Posted November 8 Posted November 8 1 hour ago, Aiya said: Ariana not being nominated for pop solo is weird. I didn't expect main categories but pop solo… BL situation all over again. ( I know BL was much bigger) but still "Apple" and "Bodyguard" (love Bey DOWN, but let's be real) getting in over WCBF, which imo was her best shot at taking home a trophy this year, is a pretty egregious snub. She'll collect next year with Wicked but still. 3
swissman Posted November 8 Posted November 8 1 minute ago, Tayman said: But sis, saying this makes no sense. Music is subjective, I'm not a Bey stan but I LOVED Renaissance and didn't enjoy CC not even a little bit, and as a swiftie I don't think Taylor deserves any Grammy for TTPD at all and I'm sure a lot of swifties would come for my neck for saying this, but at the end of the day that's the fun of discussing music. I am aware music is subjective and I have not said otherwise. What I said was people who cannot see the quality of the album are saying more about themselves (the subject) than the record (the object).
Almodusa Posted November 8 Author Posted November 8 Brat is the 4th Dance/Electronic Album in AOTY: The Fame Random Access Memories RENAISSANCE Brat All previous albums won their genre category, win REM winning AOTY.
RiseAndShine Posted November 8 Posted November 8 Was Spaghetti nominated? That song is so laughably bad. I maintain its one of the worst songs she's released in recent times. And no I'm not suprised. She's always the most nominated artist whenever she releases an album. Not sure why this year would be any different.
Cloröx Posted November 8 Posted November 8 2 minutes ago, R.E.M. said: "Apple" and "Bodyguard" (love Bey DOWN, but let's be real) getting in over WCBF, which imo was her best shot at taking home a trophy this year, is a pretty egregious snub. She'll collect next year with Wicked but still. Get real Ariana is not really respected by NARAS, she won BPDGP #thankyouagaga and BPVA because Taylor's hate train was so massive back then 1
swissman Posted November 8 Posted November 8 5 minutes ago, iHype. said: The genre spamming she does with submissions definitely requires a bigger discussion on if that even should be allowed. This was clearly marketed as a Country album, and the only genre it really should've gotten noms in was Country. All of the songs even when mixing/incorporating other genres and sounds still tie to the overall prominent theme of being a Country project. Trying to individually analyze them and then separate them into 15 completely different genres because one has a piano production, one has rapping in a verse, one has an Americana artist featured, etc is silly. Also besides that, it's borderline greedy and ridiculous she takes nominations and wins from artists who actually put out core music in other genres because she decided to just submit a random deep cut in a lesser genre knowing it'd be carried off her name. Spamming? Beyoncé didn't even put an ad out for her consideration like most artists do. The Grammys also have genre committees dedicated to putting the songs in the right categories, the categories that the genre experts believe they fit into. Also no song was put into a category because it had a piano production, nor because of a featured Americana artist. 4
Rhiannon Posted November 8 Posted November 8 The AOTY nom was something i didn't expect, i hope she wins
R.E.M. Posted November 8 Posted November 8 Just now, Cloröx said: Get real Ariana is not really respected by NARAS, she won BPDGP #thankyouagaga and BPVA because Taylor's hate train was so massive back then yawn 3
CaptainMusic Posted November 8 Posted November 8 The Grammys finally getting something right for once 1
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