celeb news Billie campaigns for #1 by signing vinyls at Walmart, flops & signs plastic sleeve

[Hurem]

Are Swifties triggered because Billie signs vinyls for free? Are they slowly realising how their faves has been draining their wallets?

[Kyoto]

The swifties are losing it

[Mr.X]

The unboxing video is cute and informative. I didnt know how recycled vinyl production works, and if it does indeed reduce cardon footprint by 90% then that's a great initiative and good for for doing it!

 

Really steps on the neck of bad faith critics who complain about her when your fav is doing the same tactics without climate-protecting measures

 

I just bought the vinyl because of this!

 

https://x.com/billieeilishtrs/status/1790777321907175514

[PoisonedIvy]

2 minutes ago, JJZAW said:

You've never seen other athletes be motivated and inspired by the accomplishments of their fellow athlete? The same can happen here. Taylor has said she studied the career decisions of musicians and artists before her, who's to say she isn't now paving a new path/blueprint for artists to succeed in the future? Even with her rerecordings she has massively disrupted the industry and proven that ventures outside of traditional label negotiations can prove to be successful. 
 

But it's not my theory, it's the person's you quoted. I'm just playing devil's advocate here. Taylor has talked about following in the paths laid out for her by her predecessors, while avoiding certain missteps. Now she's the "Madonna" of this generation in terms of trailblazing her way to the top of the industry, so it's fair to assume she could be influencing future practices of emerging artists.

[PoisonedIvy]

2 minutes ago, Kyoto said:

The swifties are losing it

Not at all, yall just fail to recognize intentionally satirical and overzealous spotlights being shined on hypocrisy.

[LosingHimWasBlue]

Mental Gymnastic in here 

y'all token stan billie rn, and sadly Billie stan fall for it. 

[Hurem]

5 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

Now she's the "Madonna" of this generation in terms of trailblazing her way to the top of the industry

No the **** she's not  

[fromily]

7 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

It's a lighthearted recurring joke, lighten up 

 

 
 

Seriously though, you guys have got to stop insinuating we're in a cult. It's a heavily loaded word with seriously negative implications that do not actually apply to the vast majority of the fanbase. It's pretty disrespectful. Have some couth. 

well i mean i'm also joking so 

 

but i agree that cults should not be taken lightly (and for the record I don't actually believe swifties are an actual cult in any way shape or form). I do however genuinely believe that taylor is deliberately fostering a really really unhealthy level of obsession in her fanbase and that that obsession has, in turn, encouraged certain cult-like behaviour from said fanbase.

 

plus i'm a kpop stan lmao i can recognise a fkd up parasocial relationship when i see it

[PoisonedIvy]

Just now, Hurem said:

No the **** she's not  

I am not talking about the type of music they make or your subjective perception of the quality of their catalogs in relation to each other

 

But Taylor is undeniably the biggest woman in music right now in a way that only Madonna has ever really achieved on a global stage. Different routes, same outcome. Thats not really up for debate anymore at this point.

[OrgVisual]

Oh wow the few thousand copies she managed to sign in that one day must make such a difference on the charts

[Démodé]

4 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

I am not talking about the type of music they make or your subjective perception of the quality of their catalogs in relation to each other

 

But Taylor is undeniably the biggest woman in music right now in a way that only Madonna has ever really achieved on a global stage. Different routes, same outcome. Thats not really up for debate anymore at this point.

yes, it IS up for debate.

 

She's no Madonna in any way, music-wise, fashion-wise, impact-wise.

[Hurem]

3 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

I am not talking about the type of music they make or your subjective perception of the quality of their catalogs in relation to each other

 

But Taylor is undeniably the biggest woman in music right now in a way that only Madonna has ever really achieved on a global stage. Different routes, same outcome. Thats not really up for debate anymore at this point.

Madonna's impact isn't strictly related to her numbers, like Taylor's. Madonna had actual impact through pushing societal boundaries, as well as reinventing herself every couple of years. Taylor doesn't hold a candle to Madonna.

[OrgVisual]

Wait she signed it for free?  

CHARITY QUEEN

ANTI-CAPITALISM QUEEN

ENVIRONMENTAL QUEEN

 

 

[PoisonedIvy]

Just now, Démodé said:

yes, it IS up for debate.

 

She's no Madonna in any way, music-wise, fashion-wise, impact-wise.

 Madonna was selling out stadiums on every continent even after 2-3 decades into her career. Taylor is doing the same. They break attendance records that even men can't reach. They succeed at a rate other women can't even begin to replicate. You can dislike Taylor's music or .. fashion? all you want but that does not revoke her place at the pinnacle of the industry right now.
 

And I'm not one of those people that is trying to erase Madonna's legacy, I'm paying my respects. They exist concurrently, independent of each other but parallel in stature. 

[Démodé]

3 minutes ago, Hurem said:

Madonna's impact isn't strictly related to her numbers, like Taylor's. Madonna had actual impact through pushing societal boundaries, as well as reinventing herself every couple of years. Taylor doesn't hold a candle to Madonna.

if you get it, you get it. 

 

We'll remember nothing of Taylor's "hits" in some years, unlike Madge's songs.

[PoisonedIvy]

2 minutes ago, Hurem said:

Madonna's impact isn't strictly related to her numbers, like Taylor's. Madonna had actual impact through pushing societal boundaries, as well as reinventing herself every couple of years. Taylor doesn't hold a candle to Madonna.

That's all fine and dandy but that's not really what I'm getting at here. Madonna was undeniably the biggest female artist of all time in her heyday. Taylor is currently the biggest female artist of this generation. That placement comes with the responsibility of paving paths for future artists. What Madonna did for culture and social issues is remarkable and cannot be replicated. Taylor is doing something different (more business oriented) but equally meaningful for women in music in the long run. 

[Hurem]

Just now, PoisonedIvy said:

That's all fine and dandy but that's not really what I'm getting at here. Madonna was undeniably the biggest female artist of all time in her heyday. Taylor is currently the biggest female artist of this generation. That placement comes with the responsibility of paving paths for future artists. What Madonna did for culture and social issues is remarkable and cannot be replicated. Taylor is doing something different (more business oriented) but equally meaningful for women in music in the long run. 

Taylor is not paving the way for anyone, but herself. We saw over and over again she's not a girl's girl and she cares about her success first and foremost. Comparing her to Madonna is insulting for Madonna, they're nothing alike, nor are their careers.

[Mickie]

17 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

 Now she's the "Madonna" of this generation in terms of trailblazing her way to the top of the industry

Oh wow, your girl wishes she were 

[PoisonedIvy]

2 minutes ago, Hurem said:

Taylor is not paving the way for anyone, but herself. We saw over and over again she's not a girl's girl and she cares about her success first and foremost. Comparing her to Madonna is insulting for Madonna, they're nothing alike, nor are their careers.

I'm not claiming they are alike or that their careers are alike, but they occupy the same role in the industry: the top. That's all. Madonna also had her moments where she was "not a girl's girl" (not that I even endorse this phrase, it's just the competitive nature of a woman ascending to the throne).   

 

They both are ambitious women who sometimes made questionable retaliatory actions/statements against their peers, but at the end of the day their careers will be reflected upon, studied, and replicated by artists of the future. It's not insulting, it's honorable. 

[Gui Blackout]

I'm just imagining someone being so excited to get that vinyl then accidentally wiping the signature off the plastic wrap

[PoisonedIvy]

1 minute ago, Mickie said:

Oh wow, your girl wishes she were 

You Madonna fans are really overprotective, you are not even attempting to understand me. Madonna: #1 female artist in history, competed with (and surpassing) even the biggest male artists of all time in album sales, single success, and touring legacy. Taylor is now the #2 female artist in history, competing with (and surpassing) the biggest male artists of all time in album sales, single success, and touring legacy. That is not "all there is" to Madonna (nor is that all there is to Taylor) and I am not even remotely implying that.  

[WalkAway]

Why is she vandalizing the store? 

[Mr. Duff]

I do love some of the Swifties but I agree some are so unhinged. This thread though  

 

Billie do have some questionable choices and opinions but the album is great. I still prefer TTPD but I wouldn't mind Billie going #1, she deserves it.

 

Now she has to follow-up LUNCH with BOAF and she'll probably have a residency in the top ten, both Hot 100 and 200.

[Mickie]

Just now, PoisonedIvy said:

You Madonna fans are really overprotective, you are not even attempting to understand me. Madonna: #1 female artist in history, competed with (and surpassing) even the biggest male artists of all time in album sales, single success, and touring legacy. Taylor is now the #2 female artist in history, competing with (and surpassing) the biggest male artists of all time in album sales, single success, and touring legacy. That is not "all there is" to Madonna (nor is that all there is to Taylor) and I am not even remotely implying that.  

I am not even a Madonna Stan, but comparing Madonna to Taylor is an insult to the former. Even when it comes to business moves and re-recordings, we all know she wasn't the first to do so, and it just only proves she's a good understudy. So to say she paves something for other girls is such a reach. 

[PoisonedIvy]

Just now, Mickie said:

I am not even a Madonna Stan, but comparing Madonna to Taylor is an insult to the former. Even when it comes to business moves and re-recordings, we all know she wasn't the first to do so, and it just only proves she's a good understudy. So to say she paves something for other girls is such a reach. 

It's not insulting at all. Whether or not Taylor is "intentionally" paving new paths for future artists is irrelevant, the scope of her career when the sun sets on her life will be too immense to ignore, and the same way Taylor studied Madonna, Britney, Joni, Carole, and other female legends that came before her, future women in music will study the decisions Taylor made that got her to where she is. They will either replicate or reject and adjust their decisions to emulate or surpass the thresholds that Taylor herself was able to breach.
 

TLDR: You don't have to be the "first" or even the "best" at something to be remembered and replicated, sometimes being the "biggest" is all it takes to reach the greatest quantity of influence.