Blackout2006 Posted May 19 Posted May 19 1 minute ago, The Music Industry said: Intent vs impact. Again, she needs a new PR team. Then again, she didn't say she hated releasing singles as a whole
glitch Posted May 19 Posted May 19 1 hour ago, TayDuaStan said: To be honest i'm really sorry for the eyelashes. Didn't their fave say "she wanted to be poor like her fans" back in 2021 yet she's milking her fans dry with those multiple versions This is fake please... source
Blackout2006 Posted May 19 Posted May 19 (edited) 1 minute ago, cruelhprince said: how sure are we that the voice memos aren't a move from Taylor's label Taylor is in control of her brand. She's a talented businesswoman foremost and wouldn't involve her label in decisions that keep her at the top until it comes to executing them Edited May 19 by Blackout2006 1
Le Grande Posted May 19 Posted May 19 43 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said: So Taylor responding to shade is not ok but Billie responding is completely OK? That groomed-te-be-a-popstar mentally aged 17 little girl felt deeply hurt by THAT?
Frozen99 Posted May 19 Posted May 19 all this talk about tactics and hypocrisy and what not but can someone please tell me, if she's getting the #1?
Brikenbur Posted May 19 Posted May 19 (edited) Taylor has been playing dirty for so long so GOOD Edited May 19 by Brikenbur
Squall Posted May 19 Posted May 19 So apparently, you get it for free if you already bought a digital version, so it won't be that useful
LoveInStereo Posted May 19 Posted May 19 The way some of you guys are excusing this solely bc you hate Taylor that much rly exposes that you never ****** with Billie. Not even 48 hours ago, half this site became a flock of parrots squawking about artistry. Here's the diff for me: Taylor never claimed to not care about chart positions. To have all the publicity of an album cycle built around "no singles, idgaf where I chart" to dropping acapellas before the weekend's out: desperate & 0 integrity! She and/or her shitty team & a lot of you are a bunch of hateful, hypocritical phonies fr. Rules for thee & not for me, huh? But her numbers are karma! She coulda done more if she'd just been direct. Next time, she should tell the fans what she rly wants & stop playing coy with the cryptic doublespeak. The corniness from anybody defending this is unreal. The worst thing an artist can be is a two faced fake. Nothing about her brand adds up! She's gotta think before she yaps. If anybody's "not a girl's girl", it's the 1 who throws stones, hides her hands & plays victim. Billie, management, bandwagon so called fans: cut the bs! 11 3
Jpkun Posted May 19 Posted May 19 48 minutes ago, Sawk said: Thank you for being one of the few people with a brain in this thread. — The girls being purposefully ignorant about having different tracks on distinct physicals versions will never not be funny. The fact that you CANNOT own a sole physical copy of TTPD that has all the songs is the problem, different colors of vinyl with the SAME track list will NEVER be the same thing, nor does it promote the same level of consumerism. People really think printing 50,000 copies of black vinyl is somehow more ecologically friendly than printing 10,000 blue, 10,000 red, 10,000 yellow, 10,000 green, and 10,000 black. That being said, pressing vinyl in any way shape of form is going to have some ecological repercussions, but it's crazy how some people exaggerate the color variants as some sort of manipulative capitalist scheme when having tracks gatekept to a certain version does much much worse not only for the fans' pockets, but also for the environment. I can agree with your sentiment to some degree except, at least this time around (TTPD) literally no songs are exclusive to their physical versions. They are ALL available on streaming as well as other free platforms (youtube, etc). This contrasts to Midnights (Hits Different) or something like GUTS (prior to deluxe release), where some songs were ONLY available in physical form. In my opinion, that is peak consumerism. In fact one could say maybe it's actually a really great thing that the full complete versions of Midnights or TTPD are not available physically. That would probably extend Midnights to a double vinyl release and TTPD to a 3-4 disc release, which if we're talking about ecological repercussions, would be worse. Would she get tons of more sales? Probably, so maybe she should be applauded for not doing these releases.
More Than A Melody Posted May 19 Posted May 19 1 hour ago, The Music Industry said: Well... that's just it. Nobody here cares when Billie does it but you were all having insane meltdowns when Taylor did it not even 48 hours ago. It's almost as if the moralistic posturing from y'all was dumb and inconsistent to begin with! This is Billie's release week she hasn't been #1 yet, so how is it hypocritical to care if someone who's already been #1 for four weeks does it but not when the person releasing does it? Isn't it the exact reason people were upset on Billie's behalf? That it's Billie's week and they wanted her to be #1? You make no sense. It isn't different standards. It'd be different standards if they'd both released this week and were battling for #1 but that's absolutely not the case. It'd be different standards if people had criticized Taylor for pulling a move like this on her release week, but that's also not the case. It's not hypocritical at all if you think Billie should have her chance of being #1, to not be upset that she's trying to be #1. Like, what is this argument? If you want to come for her by saying that she's hypocritical because "a source close to her said..." then fine? I personally think the most likely scenario is that Billie doesn't care that much (but deep down does, like most artists), but that either way it wasn't her decision. Label-heads get a bonus for reaching a milestone like #1 and they miss out on that when it peaks lower. Sure, you can claim that Taylor's label is pulling the chart games, but we all know she has the label by the nose and they will do whatever she wants them to do and that it's unlikely Billie has that pull with her own label. It's like y'all are incapable of nuance. 11 1
More Than A Melody Posted May 19 Posted May 19 10 minutes ago, Squall said: So apparently, you get it for free if you already bought a digital version, so it won't be that useful Wouldn't it work the other way around tho? Knowing that if you buy one digital version you get both, it'll push people to buy more digitals. Meaning, people who only care about the accapella will buy it, but also people who think it's a good deal to own both versions and probably wouldn't have been fully swayed to buy the accapella otherwise will think it's a good deal and buy it for that reason. I doubt too many people had bought the digital version before this.
Shelter Posted May 19 Posted May 19 Is Billie a scammer like Taylor, laughing emoji for yes, heart emoji for no. You decide 4
ChrisTheLoner Posted May 19 Posted May 19 (edited) Not all the "bUt I hEaRd!!1!1!!!" comments, yall are so insufferable and give me second hand embarrassment. Some of y'all are going on as if she released an additional 16 songs when all she did was put out a digital acapella edition of her album. Good on Billie for getting her ART to #1 Edited May 19 by ChrisTheLoner 1 1
PoisonedIvy Posted May 19 Posted May 19 2 minutes ago, Shelter said: Is Billie a scammer like Taylor, laughing emoji for yes, heart emoji for no. You decide Neither are a scammer, hope this helps 1
theboyismine Posted May 19 Posted May 19 Taylor could ever afford to release an acapella version of one of her albums in the first place so I don't know what the fuss is all about 5
boys Posted May 19 Posted May 19 3 minutes ago, ChrisTheLoner said: Not all the "bUt I hEaRd!!1!1!!!" comments, yall are so insufferable and give me second hand embarrassment. Some of y'all are going on as if she released an additional 16 songs when all she did was put out a digital acapella edition of her album. Good on Billie for getting her ART to #1 If those people screaming "but I heard!" actually listened to what they heard they wouldn't even be streaming a Taylor album in the first place given how bland the vocals are.
OrgVisual Posted May 19 Posted May 19 Quote Even those agents, managers and label folk not associated with the artist, meanwhile, are said to be rolling their eyes at the D2C maneuver designed to deprive Billie of the top spot. I guess the whole industry is Taylor haters now according to Swifties' "logic"
CécredSpaces Posted May 19 Posted May 19 2 hours ago, YellowRibbon said: https://store.billieeilish.com/products/hit-me-hard-and-soft-exclusive-digital-album-with-all-isolated-vocals I'm confused, I thought she didn't care about commercial success like other mainstream artists? Was Ms Eilish lying? Discuss "Eilish has plenty of parti-hued LP offerings in her own online shop, though, in the words of one member of her camp, she doesn't "give two shits" about her first-frame chart standing" - HDD https://m.hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=341283&title= The album is still $9.99, not discounted at $5.99 like some other girls. If you already have the digital album from the site, you will get it for free. No purchase necessary. So obviously it's not a 'sales' ploy. Billie serves vocals on this album. Not everybody has done that on theirs. 5
YellowRibbon Posted May 19 Posted May 19 Just now, CécredSpaces said: The album is still $9.99, not discounted at $5.99 like some other girls. If you already have the digital album from the site, you will get it for free. No purchase necessary. So obviously it's not a 'sales' ploy. Billie serves vocals on this album. Not everybody has done that on theirs. 1. The price is kinda irrelevant when the gap is $4. 2. It's still one additional version of the album you can buy, it doesn't matter if people that already bought the album can get it for free, in fact, the most diehard fans will probably buy it either way from another email account. 3. Whispers are part of the vocals of a song so yeah, in a sense she does serve vocals.
CécredSpaces Posted May 19 Posted May 19 34 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said: but we all know she has the label by the nose and they will do whatever she wants them to do and that it's unlikely Billie has that pull with her own label. Taylor doesn't even have the normal deal with Republic like it is with other artists. She's only "signed" as far as distribution goes. But the label can't hold her to account in terms of how she wants to release or promote it. It's all her. Her releases aren't even (C) Republic Records. It's (C) Taylor Swift. Billie doesn't have that pull, nor the exact deal. 2
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