PoisonedIvy Posted May 17 Posted May 17 1 minute ago, zzmyth said: I am a white male babe. You do not live your life through your fave, you will never be her, you will never have her success or her money. Let it go sis. Now. I resort to WHITE PRIVILEGED BLONDE. check it up. It's a thing... and when you realize Taylor didn't start from zero, you will understand what I mean. Anyway.... #choices In that case your white savior complex is seeping out. You wield the same white privilege she does Who are you to shame her for it. I'm aware Taylor didn't start from zero. I also don't care, because neither did many other musicians and artists. She's not a nepo baby, she just had a family with decent careers and a lot of love for their child. Why would I have any room in my heart for disdain of that? Correct, I don't want to be her, I don't want that much money, and I do not live my life through her. I very much enjoy my simple life, my simple job, my simple friends, and my humble income. not sure where the disconnect kicked in that insinuated otherwise 4
zzmyth Posted May 17 Posted May 17 3 minutes ago, Saintlor said: How cringe to be a white male and saying "That's why I don't stan privileged white blondes" How cringe to not be aware of your own white privilege babe.
Saintlor Posted May 17 Posted May 17 Just now, Rep2000 said: It reeks "The Beyonce professor" tbh. Most white people who say stuff like that only associate with and date white people too. They somehow think they're edgy and don't benefit from white privilege just because they say things like that
iamanearthling Posted May 17 Posted May 17 Not Taylor's fault for being the baddest ***** in the game. 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Saintlor Posted May 17 Posted May 17 (edited) 4 minutes ago, zzmyth said: How cringe to not be aware of your own white privilege babe. I am Eurasian... and how does my post mean that I'm not aware of privileges in life? Let me guess, you (a white man) knows everything about race and wants to tell everyone how it works just because you're a fan of a black woman Edited May 17 by Saintlor 2
istan4badgalriri Posted May 17 Posted May 17 5 hours ago, Into The Void said: They truly are. Like... you can't be worshipping that woman and not be brainwashed lmao 6 1 1
zzmyth Posted May 17 Posted May 17 4 minutes ago, Saintlor said: Most white people who say stuff like that only associate with and date white people too. They somehow think they're edgy and don't benefit from white privilege just because they say things like that I benefit from it, THAT'S WHY I'M AWARE OF IT. Grow up babe. You can stan an artist and put in the same sentence that everything they do is not always right. IT'S CALLED MATURING 3
Mr.X Posted May 17 Posted May 17 (edited) Trash move, but what to expect from ha? We been knew she was trash.... Oh, and digital carbon footprint is a thing huns. Just cos she is not (yet) reproducing these new versions on Vinyl, it doesnt mean it doesnt have an impact. Streaming and digital storage of files has an incredible impact (and also the files sit in hard drives usually stored in warehouses in the Global South that consume so much water to keep cool or from overheating, some of them are depriving whole villages of water... so take a chill before you claim environmental responsability for either of these two acts!) But I have to laugh with Swifties now claiming racism against white people/caucasian people because they feel butthurt their favourite acts like a spoilled brat YET AGAIN.... Trash follows trash, as per usual Edited May 17 by Mr.X 14 3
PoisonedIvy Posted May 17 Posted May 17 2 minutes ago, istan4badgalriri said: Like... you can't be worshipping that woman and not be brainwashed lmao Why do you presume the people that don't criticize her every move worship her? I don't worship her but I also think y'all antagonize her over the most insignificant bullsh!t. And this "brainwash" crap is such a cop out. My thoughts can easily be rationalized into words that you would understand, my perception of reality is perfectly aligned with everyone else's, and my sanity is perfectly intact. You're afraid of confronting an opposing point of view that could challenge your beliefs in a legitimate way, so you write anyone else off as brainwashed. 1
PoisonedIvy Posted May 17 Posted May 17 (edited) 1 minute ago, Mr.X said: But I have to laugh with Swifties now claiming racism against white people/caucasian people because they feel butthurt their favourite acts like a spoilled brat YET AGAIN.... Literally no one is doing this. Not a single soul. Edited May 17 by PoisonedIvy 1
shark_heather Posted May 17 Posted May 17 I will never understand how this singer is so successful but i cannot acknowledge the fact that she is probably the entire music industry What Rihanna did in the 2010s ( working and releasing non stop ) , Taylor does it 10x times more
istan4badgalriri Posted May 17 Posted May 17 6 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said: Why do you presume the people that don't criticize her every move worship her? I don't worship her but I also think y'all antagonize her over the most insignificant bullsh!t. And this "brainwash" crap is such a cop out. My thoughts can easily be rationalized into words that you would understand, my perception of reality is perfectly aligned with everyone else's, and my sanity is perfectly intact. You're afraid of confronting an opposing point of view that could challenge your beliefs in a legitimate way, so you write anyone else off as brainwashed. You bragged about her hating both men and women and loving success more than anything else. You're brainwashed baby 9
Bey'Knight Posted May 17 Posted May 17 For those saying, it's just business. It's not. She's being vindictive, an ugly precedent that dates back to her 3rd album. Taylor responds to criticism by throwing her weight around. Her vengeful lyrics began with bragging of living in a big ol mansion in the city to likening her scorn to a scorpion's fatal sting. The only that has grown is her bank account and size of her legion of followers. One feeds the other. And what do the feeders get, a parasocial validation? Congrats. What an achievement. 14
PoisonedIvy Posted May 17 Posted May 17 3 minutes ago, istan4badgalriri said: You bragged about her hating both men and women and loving success more than anything else. You're brainwashed baby I JOKED about her hating both men and women. I did not brag. I then clarified, in that very post, in the very next sentence, that I don't think she hates anyone. She does love success, that does not mean she hates others. It just means she prioritizes her professional growth. That's not my personal value in life, but it's hers. She lives her life and I live mine. Our morals don't have to align, she isn't harming anyone, so I see no need to decry it publicly. See? Rational train of thought, yet for some reason you would rather write me off as brainwashed. Odd. 1
Raspberries Posted May 17 Posted May 17 32 minutes ago, zzmyth said: I am a white male babe. You do not live your life through your fave, you will never be her, you will never have her success or her money. Let it go sis. Now. I resort to WHITE PRIVILEGED BLONDE. check it up. It's a thing... and when you realize Taylor didn't start from zero, you will understand what I mean. Anyway.... #choices Can you go the **** outside? It is NOT that serious, I promise 1
RideOrDie Posted May 17 Posted May 17 24 pages over this... oh my god y'all GIVE IT UP go touch motherf*cking grass please 5
PoisonedIvy Posted May 17 Posted May 17 5 minutes ago, Bey'Knight said: She's being vindictive, an ugly precedent that dates back to her 3rd album. Taylor responds to criticism by throwing her weight around. Her vengeful lyrics began with bragging of living in a big ol mansion in the city to likening her scorn to a scorpion's fatal sting. … she responded to a middle aged man telling her she was dreadful by saying she would keep furthering her career while he just complains about her. In what world is that vindictive? She focuses on the growth of her career while others just groan and whine about her. That's pretty much how it always been. She's not being vindictive, she's staying vigilant and hyperfocused. Something I think yall are unable to see because you're the very people that are groaning and whining about her along the way. For nearly 2 decades her career has continued to flourish in spite of society, news outlets, social media, and in some cases other celebrities trying to tear down. She wouldn't have reached the heights she has if she rolled over when people told her to humble herself. She keeps moving forward and doesn't let anyone slow her down. That's not vindictive, that's driven. Thats motivated. That's goal-oriented. 2
spiritboy Posted May 17 Posted May 17 Why is this pathetic? Every artist is free to release hundreds of versions of their albums but do they have Taylor's selling power? Most pop girls can't sell their original versions let alone different versions And this is coming from someone who is not listening Taylor. Kudos to her for managing to sell all those variants & versions. 5
PoisonedIvy Posted May 17 Posted May 17 1 minute ago, spiritboy said: Why is this pathetic? Every artist is free to release hundreds of versions of their albums but do they have Taylor's selling power? Most pop girls can't sell their original versions let alone different versions And this is coming from someone who is not listening Taylor. Kudos to her for managing to sell all those variants & versions. I was beginning to worry there wasn't anyone unbiased & fair on this site. It's nice to hear from a non-Taylor fan that some of these users are overreacting. 1
cuteboyzay Posted May 17 Posted May 17 (edited) 29 minutes ago, zzmyth said: I benefit from it, THAT'S WHY I'M AWARE OF IT. Grow up babe. You can stan an artist and put in the same sentence that everything they do is not always right. IT'S CALLED MATURING Thank you SO MUCH for saying this. They look so d*mn embarrassing. . They really think them and Taylor are in this together and it's baffling. I just pray some Swifties learn about BetterHelp and download it. It's free! Edited May 17 by cuteboyzay 1
Raspberries Posted May 17 Posted May 17 2 hours ago, Jay07 said: More spinning and trying to qualify immoral behavior. Backstabbing and sabotaging others doesn't always have to lead to loss of life or livelihood. At those levels of success, a debut week at #1 does mean something and Taylor certainly knows that or she wouldn't rush out VOICE NOTES to secure a THIRD week at #1. She just has no scruples and is petty and vindictive and it says a lot about you that you dedicated 20 pages and 60 posts (and counting) to defend that. Talking about immoral behavior with an avi of a member of the Jackson family Just unserious as hell 2
PoisonedIvy Posted May 17 Posted May 17 6 minutes ago, cuteboyzay said: Thank you SO MUCH for saying this. They look so d*mn embarrassing. . They really think them and Taylor are in this together and it's baffling. I just pray some Swifties learn about BetterHelp and download it. It's free! Bro **** Taylor Swift, I need yall to separate her from this conversation I'm having. Someone being ambitious, self serving, and strategic in their career growth is not an immoral evil person. The people whining and insinuating otherwise are the ones that need to get on BetterHelp, because they are trying to impose their moral compasses onto the lives of others, even when their actions are bringing no harm to others. 1
chiliam Posted May 17 Posted May 17 why this thread has 24 pages? When i swear i also read on ATRL over and over again thats no one talk about Taylor except for Swifties Like keep crying, keep her name on your lips, and then keep being delusion the very next minute saying "oh no one talk about her" 2
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