celeb news Taylor releases 3 new versions of TTPD

[wantedyoutogrow]

she's so chart obsessed and i actually kinda love it, like idk but i just love #real frauds

 

also she must hate Billie so bad

 

[PoisonedIvy]

Like, there are people who literally brown nose their managers at work just for a promotion. They don't get called sociopaths just for stepping over their coworkers and prioritizing their own professional development. Career growth is a perfectly sane and reasonable goal. You don't get further in life if you stand at the door holding it open for others. You get there by taking life by the reins and taking charge. Man up, most of yall are grown ass men whining about a woman in total control of her career. 

[PrettyHurts]

1 minute ago, PoisonedIvy said:

Like, there are people who literally brown nose their managers at work just for a promotion. They don't get called sociopaths just for stepping over their coworkers and prioritizing their own professional development. Career growth is a perfectly sane and reasonable goal. You don't get further in life if you stand at the door holding it open for others. You get there by taking life by the reins and taking charge. Man up, most of yall are grown ass men whining about a woman in total control of her career. 

not your fave inspiring you to be a worse person  touching grass is needed. taylor is capable of greed, which she's clearly showing signs of. greed sucks. it's okay to admit that 

[PoisonedIvy]

2 minutes ago, PrettyHurts said:

not your fave inspiring you to be a worse person  touching grass is needed. taylor is capable of greed, which she's clearly showing signs of. greed sucks. it's okay to admit that 

My role models are not celebrities, I do not model my values after theirs. I am not an ambitious person, I do not dream of overcoming hurdles. I dream of a simple life. I can see someone that has big aspirations and applaud their growth without it affecting or influencing my life. You should try it

[americanshameless]

2 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

Like, there are people who literally brown nose their managers at work just for a promotion. They don't get called sociopaths just for stepping over their coworkers and prioritizing their own professional development. Career growth is a perfectly sane and reasonable goal. You don't get further in life if you stand at the door holding it open for others. You get there by taking life by the reins and taking charge. Man up, most of yall are grown ass men whining about a woman in total control of her career. 

How about just doing you and letting your supposed art take you there instead of numbers and positions determining your worth? And speaking bout control when the numbers quite evidently control her sanity  

[Jay07]

Just now, PoisonedIvy said:

Being strategic, ambitious, and cunning will never be sociopathic to me. Sorry babe. If she wants to claim the title of the biggest solo artist of all time, none of us are gonna stop her, clearly, nor is there even a reason to? Let her achieve it, it's a personal goal. Once she achieves it she will probably have fulfilled that incessant need that drives her career forward. Maybe then you'll know peace. But until then, get used to it — she's not taking her foot off the gas. There's blood in the water and you seem to be lingering near it. 
 

I didn't claim she "doesn't do it for success" btw, I said songwriting is her lifeline. Two things can be true at once

These rantings sound like what CEOs tell themselves when they destroy hundreds of lives for their own personal gain. She is not doing this for the title of "biggest artist of all time". She is doing this out of spite, because she hates female artists and because she wants another meaningless trinket like another week at #1 at the expense of someone who rightfully called her out for being chart obsessed (how ironic). As for your bizarre gloating, I'm not even a Billie stan and I cannot fathom people who get a bizarre kick out of someone else's achievements. I'm just honestly shocked that someone who is this successful can still be this jealous and insecure and that people actually applaud it instead of being embarrassed for them. Birds of a feather, I guess.

 

And you said Taylor makes music for the songwriting and that success is just a "bonus". Clearly not since you claim that being the most successful artist ever is her basic driving principle. Get your spin straight.

[PoisonedIvy]

Just now, americanshameless said:

How about just doing you and letting your supposed art take you there instead of numbers and positions determining your worth? And speaking bout control when the numbers quite evidently control her sanity  

How about you navigate your career the way you want to, and let others navigate theirs the way they want to? Funny how the world keeps turning if we do that! It's almost like we can individually choose to exercise the values and beliefs that are important to us! 

[RoseBud]

 

   And I try to understand why you would do this all to me
   You must be insecure, you must be so unhappy  

                                                         the grudge....Olivia Rodrigo

 

   Now it all makes sense

[Gladiator]

8 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

Like, there are people who literally brown nose their managers at work just for a promotion. They don't get called sociopaths just for stepping over their coworkers and prioritizing their own professional development. Career growth is a perfectly sane and reasonable goal. You don't get further in life if you stand at the door holding it open for others. You get there by taking life by the reins and taking charge. Man up, most of yall are grown ass men whining about a woman in total control of her career. 

Nothing like releasing phone memo versions of your songs to prioritize professional development. 

[Taylor fanboy]

[americanshameless]

1 minute ago, PoisonedIvy said:

It's almost like we can individually choose to exercise the values and beliefs that are important to us! 

 

[PrettyHurts]

3 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

My role models are not celebrities, I do not model my values after theirs. I am not an ambitious person, I do not dream of overcoming hurdles. I dream of a simple life. I can see someone that has big aspirations and applaud their growth without it affecting or influencing my life. You should try it

well you shouldn't make endless excuses for narcissism, vengefulness and greed  it's okay to call a thing a thing.

[JJZAW]

1 hour ago, Guilherme Make Love said:

I'm sure Billie will be blocked by Taylor

 

That won't prevent Billie from getting the actual respected album, something sales doesn't buy 

Tbh maybe billie should be blocked.

So that the backlash for tay will be even greater and more people wake up from her schemes and antics

[wehavetostan]

2 minutes ago, JJZAW said:

Tbh maybe billie should be blocked.

So that the backlash for tay will be even greater and more people wake up from her schemes and antics

When these girls start the “wronged by Taylor” club

[PoisonedIvy]

1 minute ago, Jay07 said:

These rantings sound like what CEOs tell themselves when they destroy hundreds of lives for their own personal gain. 

And yet I am not a CEO, nor is Taylor Swift destroying anyone's life. Like, anyone. How melodramatic. Do you hear yourself? She. Is. Not. Hurting. Anyone. She is not taking food off of their tables, stripping them of their income, or causing injury to them in any way. 
 

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She is not doing this for the title of "biggest artist of all time". She is doing this out of spite, because she hates female artists and because she wants another meaningless trinket like another week at #1 at the expense of someone who rightfully called her out for being chart obsessed (how ironic).

Did she tell you she hates women? I don't think she hates anyone. I think she loves success. People have a hard time separating those things when they're viewing it externally but the truth is to succeed, you have to step over people. That's literally just a fact of life. I don't like it and that's why my goals never veer into career ambitions. I do not have the shark mentality.

 

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As for your bizarre gloating, I'm not even a Billie stan and I cannot fathom people who get a bizarre kick out of someone else's achievements. I'm just honestly shocked that someone who is this successful can still be this jealous and insecure and that people actually applaud it instead of being embarrassed for them. Birds of a feather, I guess.

Where the hell was I gloating? Taylor's achievements are not my own, they are hers. She sets goals and she meets them. That's it, that is an observation. I do not care about her success, I've been a fan of her music since I was a 13 year old that didn't even know what a Billboard Hot 100 was. I am categorically different from my Taylor so your birds of a feather idiom falls flat on its face. 
 

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And you said Taylor makes music for the songwriting and that success is just a "bonus". Clearly not since you claim that being the most successful artist ever is her basic driving principle. Get your spin straight.

Success is a bonus in that she is reaping the professional rewards of a personal creative outlet. It just so happens that something she started at age 11 to cope with her emotions (writing songs) led to a lucrative and successful career where she was then able to set her ambitions higher and higher. In her early documentaries, like pre 2010, she mentions just wanting people to know the words to her songs. Well, she gets what she wanted. People know her songs. That wasn't motivated by a drive for success, that was motivated by artistic connection. As her success grew, so did her ambition. Success is the symptom, not the disease.

[PoisonedIvy]

5 minutes ago, Gladiator said:

Nothing like releasing phone memo versions of your songs to prioritize professional development. 

People literally compliment their boss's tie and get introduced to higher ups at networking events. People do seemingly insignificant things to reap significant professional rewards. 

[Archetype]

She's so petty and actually insane for doing this.  It could have been any other week, but it had to be this one.  I normally support her trampling over other artists, but Billie is a good person and this just comes across as trying to sabotage another female artist's release.

[PoisonedIvy]

5 minutes ago, PrettyHurts said:

well you shouldn't make endless excuses for narcissism, vengefulness and greed  it's okay to call a thing a thing.

See but that's the thing, the types of greed I was taught to reject are the kind that harm others. Greed like hoarding property or food and making it inaccessible to the needy. Taylor isn't doing anything even remotely on that scale. So again I say: what you call greed she calls ambition. Her goals do not diminish the quality of anyone else's life. I see no inherent harm in her actions. 
 

Im willing to concede if yall present a valid argument — for example, she is absolutely wreaking irreversible damage to our planet with her jet usage. (So are many, MANY others, so I don't single her out, but I can concede that to yall without blindly defending her. She is doing more damage than hundreds of thousands of us could cumulatively do in a lifetime) But nothing yall say is actually proving that her ""greed"" is detrimental to her fellow humans. 

[Club classic]

2 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

See but that's the thing, the types of greed I was taught to reject are the kind that harm others. Greed like hoarding property or food and making it inaccessible to the needy. Taylor isn't doing anything even remotely on that scale. So again I say: what you call greed she calls ambition. Her goals do not diminish the quality of anyone else's life. I see no inherent harm in her actions. 
 

Im willing to concede if yall present a valid argument — for example, she is absolutely wreaking irreversible damage to our planet with her jet usage. (So are many, MANY others, so I don't single her out, but I can concede that to yall without blindly defending her. She is doing more damage than hundreds of thousands of us could cumulatively do in a lifetime) But nothing yall say is actually proving that her ""greed"" is detrimental to her fellow humans. 

all these essays, breathe for a second and think if it's really that serious

[Arrows]

Oh wow, Taylor has really turned into Daenerys (and Billie + Finneas the Lannister siblings)

 

Billie's team made a lot of this album campaign about Billie not being Taylor, which has honestly been really annoying as a fan of both.

 

Anyway, I love the new album

[kyoshi]

I don't think 3 voice notes can block a whole ass new album... WAoLOM's piano clip is cute and all but it won't be enough.

 

Besides, if ms eyelash wants that #1 so bad she can always start doing 🤸🏼‍♀️🤸🏼‍♀️🤸🏼‍♀️  at dawn to move those sales  

[Jay07]

2 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

And yet I am not a CEO, nor is Taylor Swift destroying anyone's life. Like, anyone. How melodramatic. Do you hear yourself? She. Is. Not. Hurting. Anyone. She is not taking food off of their tables, stripping them of their income, or causing injury to them in any way. 
 

Did she tell you she hates women? I don't think she hates anyone. I think she loves success. People have a hard time separating those things when they're viewing it externally but the truth is to succeed, you have to step over people. That's literally just a fact of life. I don't like it and that's why my goals never veer into career ambitions. I do not have the shark mentality.

 

Where the hell was I gloating? Taylor's achievements are not my own, they are hers. She sets goals and she meets them. That's it, that is an observation. I do not care about her success, I've been a fan of her music since I was a 13 year old that didn't even know what a Billboard Hot 100 was. I am categorically different from my Taylor so your birds of a feather idiom falls flat on its face. 
 

Success is a bonus in that she is reaping the professional rewards of a personal creative outlet. It just so happens that something she started at age 11 to cope with her emotions (writing songs) led to a lucrative and successful career where she was then able to set her ambitions higher and higher. In her early documentaries, like pre 2010, she mentions just wanting people to know the words to her songs. Well, she gets what she wanted. People know her songs. That wasn't motivated by a drive for success, that was motivated by artistic connection. As her success grew, so did her ambition. Success is the symptom, not the disease.

Sorry but we simply cannot converse from the same starting point. Both Tay's behavior and your brown nosing example are examples of immoral behavior. Yes it happens in the real world but the fact that you claim it's something to be praised and defended is beyond me. At least artists had enough shame to not do it so shamelessly and at least pretend to support their colleagues instead of sabotaging them. Music and art is beyond petty grudges and meaningless trinkets like weeks at #1. But Taylor has never been a real artist, just a commodity. 

 

And yes, saying bizarre stuff like "she's not going to take her foot off your neck" is gloating and weird. Birds of a feather refers to you defending that in order to win, it's ok to do anything, including backstabbing your peers like you just did above. But I think you know that and you're just squirming to get out of the corner you painted yourself in by defending a ruthless capitalist with a mean, vindictive streak who more often than not targets her female colleagues.

[Arrows]

Billie herself is apparantly above caring for the charts, so she will be happy for Taylor

[PoisonedIvy]

3 minutes ago, sbenci said:

all these essays, breathe for a second and think if it's really that serious

Sorry, I was always an avid debater. I also like to challenge the perspectives of others, just as much as I like my own perspective to be challenged.   

[Funnyfatty]

Like i'm so tired of her clown behaviour. Anytime A FEMALE is releasing material she throws her name in there. Can we talk this week about Billie? NO WE CAN'T EVEN TALK THIS WEEK ABOUT BILLIE. Taylor wants attention again.

 

i can't believe that not even 1 person opens her mouth against her. But that time will come. She will win again the clown of the year award and hell will break. 
 

Secondly isn't she dating a soccer player? I'm sorry but when they seperate  she will experience THE WORST. She will realise that those soccer stans don't care about how many weeks you are on the top because those people are REAL misogynists. Don't forgot how they made her AI porn to bully her. 
 

Anyone who falls under the radar of soccor stans are on danger. Man are dangerous in that sense but Taylor is an horrible person so i'm interested to see what will happen next. 
 

Karma will FIX her (YES IT REALLY CAN)