Saintlor Posted May 12 Posted May 12 (edited) 1 minute ago, More Than A Melody said: And it's almost doubling its streams daily 89 5 Blinding Lights The Weeknd 1 94 1626 1,735,026 24 5 As It Was Harry Styles 1 29 773 3,145,580 Less Still hasn't overtaken it and you don't know what can happen in the future. Taylor isn't the best selling female artist of all time right now just because she possibly/likely will be in the future. Anything can happen in the meantime. Edited May 12 by Saintlor
More Than A Melody Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Just now, Saintlor said: Still hasn't overtaken it and you don't know what can happen in the future. The question is: Is As It Was the biggest streaming hit? My answer: not yet but it probably will be. I'm contesting this nonsensical inclusion of big YouTube songs. At this rate you're gonna claim that Waka Waka is a big streaming hit 1
More Than A Melody Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Saintlor fuming because Harry Styles has one of the biggest (soon to be THE biggest) streaming hits is very funny.
Saintlor Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Just now, More Than A Melody said: I'm contesting this nonsensical inclusion of big YouTube songs. At this rate you're gonna claim that Waka Waka is a big streaming hit So if Billboard stopped using Spotify streams for the charts you would automatically not consider As It Was to be a streaming hit?
More Than A Melody Posted May 12 Posted May 12 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Saintlor said: So if Billboard stopped using Spotify streams for the charts you would automatically not consider As It Was to be a streaming hit? No, because they used Spotify for the charts when it came out. Billboard started using YouTube views in 2013 but it was never a major component of the formula. I'm literally Latina and I was living in Miami when Despacito came out. If YouTube views had been significantly counted on the charts back in 2017, then I promise you the OG Despacito would've hit top 10. The Latino community used to almost exclusively use YouTube to stream music. (We almost exclusively use Spotify now tho). When Despacito came out, it peaked where it peaked and for that long because it was #1 on US iTunes and Spotify. Those were the two biggest components. YouTube views counted but the original Despacito peaked at #44 (I stand corrected cause I thought it hadn't charted). It wasn't until Justin Bieber did a remix, which as I said, doesn't have a music video, that it peaked at #1 for 16 weeks. It's not rocket science to realize that YouTube isn't a major component and never was if the biggest music video in history only peaked at #44. So if it wasn't a major component for the charts, then it's not relevant to pick the biggest streaming hit. Right now, it's Blinding Lights, but I do think As It Was is edging it. It got to 3 billion nine months earlier than Blinding Lights, and it was #1 for 15 weeks while BL was only #1 for 4. What Blinding Lights has going for it right now is time. If AIW continues with this longevity it will be the biggest streaming hit, but of course we can't know what will happen in three years. Edited May 12 by More Than A Melody Clarity
VioletsandRoses Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Streaming era hit? No. Hello, Despacito, Shape of you and have way too much pure sales and YouTube views to overtake just yet. If we're talking recently or of the 20s then yes. It'll end up bigger than Blinding Lights and Stay. It's impressive because he sold the album too unlike the other two.
More Than A Melody Posted May 12 Posted May 12 4 minutes ago, VioletsandRoses said: Streaming era hit? No. Hello, Despacito, Shape of you and have way too much pure sales and YouTube views to overtake just yet. If we're talking recently or of the 20s then yes. It'll end up bigger than Blinding Lights and Stay. It's impressive because he sold the album too unlike the other two. I disagree with including YouTube views for reasons stated above. I do think pure sales are against it, because it's just not a thing anymore, but only insofar Shape Of You. Hello is 5x Platinum in the UK, which has automatic certifications. As It Was is 4x. Hello is literally 7 years older than AIW and it only reached 5x in January this year. There's no comparison. As It Was is miles bigger. So Despacito and Hello are not contenders imo. Shape Of You is, but As It Was can be bigger eventually. It just depends on its longevity. It's definitely already bigger than Stay. It passed it in streams a while ago and it outstreams daily. It charted in more places, higher, for longer. I think it's still a little bit away from being bigger than Blinding Lights. So far I'd rank it third of the streaming era. I know Starboy and Sunflower have more Spotify streams, but that's not the only metric that counts. It's just one of the big ones.
charot Posted May 12 Posted May 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, SignificantOther said: Youtube is dead though. It's dead but still a good metric how global and how popular with the gp the songs are. Most of the smash hits like Flowers still made numbers there (by today's Youtube viewing standards). Edited May 12 by charot
More Than A Melody Posted May 12 Posted May 12 6 minutes ago, charot said: It's dead but still a good metric how global and how popular with the gp the songs are. Most of the smash hits like Flowers still made numbers there (by today's Youtube viewing standards). As It Was did numbers too. It has 722 million views.
LastGreatBloodline Posted May 12 Posted May 12 it's criminal how a straight up Blinding Lights rip-off might end up bigger 1
45seconds Posted May 12 Posted May 12 1 hour ago, SignificantOther said: Youtube is dead though. And it still has 8.4 billion views.
Armani? Posted May 12 Posted May 12 It's a huge hit but it still has a long time before passing Blinding Lights. Streaming patterns can change in 3 years 1
charot Posted May 12 Posted May 12 (edited) 28 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said: As It Was did numbers too. It has 722 million views. Exactly. I said smash hits like Flowers and that includes As It Was. I used Flowers as example since it's the most recent global smasha. Edited May 12 by charot
Saintlor Posted May 12 Posted May 12 (edited) According to Harry Styles fans, streams only count if it's on a website that Harry Styles is successful on And even if a song has more streams that Harry Styles' song on Spotify, it doesn't count because Harry might overtake the song in 3+ years time Edited May 12 by Saintlor
More Than A Melody Posted May 12 Posted May 12 2 minutes ago, Saintlor said: According to Harry Styles fans, streams only count if it's on a website that Harry Styles is successful on And even if a song has more streams that Harry Styles' song on Spotify, it doesn't count because Harry might overtake the song in 3+ years time Smells like desperation cause no one claimed any of this. If you have to misrepresent an argument (ie: I said Blinding Lights and Shape Of You are currently bigger than AIW and who knows what will happen in three years), then you already lost.
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