Cesar Posted May 10 Author Posted May 10 32 minutes ago, Flanders said: That is really stretching it paper thin boycott Israel tho How is it a stretch? Have you not looked into the correlation on Cop City & Israel / IDF? Quote "You have private capital essentially invested in supporting this program. Politicians at every level in Georgia support this program, to the point where hundreds of police trainees are sent from Georgia and across the U.S. to train with Israeli occupation forces in Palestine. They're learning these advanced tactics that the Israeli Occupation Force uses because they're known for being innovative and repressive." The statement reads, "Designed to refine the tactics of urban warfare and repression, Cop City epitomizes the connections between white supremacy-fueled genocide, militarism and oppression. It threatens to expand the cycle of state-sanctioned violence and political repression upon working-class African/Black and Indigenous communities, and would further expand the GILEE program's resources and capabilities." https://prismreports.org/2023/11/14/stop-cop-city-gilee-palestinian-genocide/ Quote Fascist police violence happened at the same time as the Israeli army's aggression. This led the SDS to create an interesting connection between supporting Third World Liberation efforts (including solidarity with Palestine) and challenging police violence and other forms of state repression within what was then West Germany. That a student could be killed for participating in peaceful protests provided clear evidence that West Germany had not overcome the dangers of fascism. At a time of growing global solidarity with Third World struggles, all of the groups I worked with — the Communist Party, the Black Panther Party, and the Los Angeles chapter of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) — were absolutely clear about their solidarity with Palestine. Angela Davis - Black Panthers Party https://hammerandhope.org/article/angela-davis-palestinians-gaza Quote "But we know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians." Nelson Mandela - 1994 https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/nelson-mandelas-support-for-palestinians-endures-with-south-africas-genocide-case-against-israel These are some just to name a few. 3
kataraqueen Posted May 10 Posted May 10 1 hour ago, Cesar said: Given that Beyonce was seemly tributing Black Panthers on the superbowl + showing support for black live matter + appearing to be anti-cop. it's interesting she hasn't been vocal about palestine, when those issues intersect on colonization & occupation of Palestine. beyonce is a black woman in america? like i get that she's performative but PLS your logic is so flawed
Cesar Posted May 10 Author Posted May 10 3 minutes ago, vale9001 said: I follow hundreds of journalists talk every minute about these things and even being personally involved in some of these territories. I never ready someone of them caring if ariana grande, a private Citizen as any other, is talking about a thing, as every other private Citizen. Imagine wasting your time at refreshing Kim Kardashian Page to see if She spoken of about a thing, to waste time to Google of Kim Kardashian spoken about something. And wasting tour time to make Tik toks about It. Imagine the **** the people on Gaza right now can care about Kim Kardashian. And why you don't care if Kim Kardashian talked about ukraine, Yemen, North korea, Iran, tibet, every civil war in africa happening right now in this exactly Moment too. Cause It's not a trend? Cause usually being celeb obsessed It's exactly connetted with being obsessed with trends. So seems like a perfect circle.
Chris Posted May 10 Posted May 10 1 hour ago, sbenci said: wonder how many of these tiktok like chasers actually donated or did something useful None of them. 3
50thStateofMind Posted May 10 Posted May 10 college kids are doing more for Palestine than any of these online fools... 4
gm4567 Posted May 10 Posted May 10 (edited) I mean why stop at Palestine? Why not block them for the other 1 million issues effecting the world. Just a way for lazy people to feel like theyve done something for Palestine whilst the people in Gaza continue to be indiscriminately bombed. Edited May 10 by gm4567 3
Triton Posted May 10 Posted May 10 2 hours ago, SinnerCity said: This was your chance to beat the dumbass allegations and you blew it Anyway, these celebrities mean ****, people should be taking this where it matters. A change needs to happen and it has go to start on the streets. I was going to drag her actually and reinforce them but I've gotten warned too many times. #FreePalastine
Aribiotch. Posted May 10 Posted May 10 It is absolutely terrible what it going on , but what do you expect these celebs to do? Remember during the BLM protest when celebs were changing their profile pics to black? It didn't do a damn thing and people were calling them out for being "performative". Yall give celebs too much power when the pressure should be on governments.
i spit on haters Posted May 10 Posted May 10 3 hours ago, MrPiggyMoka said: And what will celebs talking about it change anything, like be for real People are so dumb I cannot. Why are they not protesting and blocking the politicians who actually are the cause all of the wars and genocides?? Make it make sense please, we truly are living the South Park episodes. ....Many do. I don't know why some of you keep saying this when protesters have showed up and protested outside of politicians homes and protested by withholding their votes. Biden may very well lose reelection largely due to his unwavering support of a genocidal state. You and others will say 'Why are they not protesting politicians' but when we do, you tell us to shut up and vote. 3
i spit on haters Posted May 10 Posted May 10 1 hour ago, Chris said: None of them. You've seen their monthly bank-statements ? 1 1
woohoo Posted May 10 Posted May 10 3 hours ago, Gwendolyn said: I wish people put as much energy as they did into making very distasteful tiktoks of suffering and traumatised Palestinian people and comparing them to Met Gala and Hunger Games (The Met is a charity event with a lot of time that is put into it made by multiple people who aren't all major celebrities, from designers, to hairstylists, photography, architects and so much more for a Fashion Museum) and instead start writing letters to their MPs and local politicians, I see more tiktoks about the upper than I've seen from the latter. I also find it interesting how none of the same energy is put into football and other sporting events, The Olympics is happening soon and Israel will most likely compete but I haven't seen any attempts at all, all of it is focused on Art industries (which take over thousands of people to put together, majority not millionaires but working people). It is extremely disappointing that Celebrities haven't spoken out but we need to truly pinpoint on our governments to make a change. If I could give you 100 trophies I would! I agree and this also goes into voting. Why does everyone in our generation think f**king tiktoks and blocking celebs is gonna spark any change at all. It's just like voting, be damned if they stand in line but they'll make 1,000 tiktoks complaining about candidates, won't phone bank or spread the word of primaries etc. now they're trying to make change from behind a screen give me a break. You make change by pressuring the hell out of politicians etc but you can't get anyone to call their offices. All this while trying to block celebs add revenue from clicks and views all while jumping on this "trend" for clicks and views. The lack of self awareness is wild.
i spit on haters Posted May 10 Posted May 10 1 hour ago, 50thStateofMind said: college kids are doing more for Palestine than any of these online fools... No. They're on the same wavelength, in fact. These "online fools" are doing what Palestinians have asked, actually. And that is to be vociferously vocal online because social media is the easiest source to reach a broad spectrum of millions of people around the world. Do you think Gaza wants their deaths and destitute state of life to be broadcasted to the world ? do you know how embarrassing and dehumanizing that would be for anyone ? but they know it's the only way for the entire world to see what Israel is doing to them. And we're seeing it everyday in real time. If these "online fools" weren't so loud in their support online, the world would forget about them and it would be another silent genocide. One of the main reasons why they want to block tik tok. And the main reason why so many journalists have been assassinated by Israel and are being blocked from investigating. Israel wants all and any support silenced. And no, we're not going to allow that to happen. 8 1
Kassi Posted May 10 Posted May 10 Why would anyone block Beyoncé? They would miss her cute American flag outfits 2
perfect blue Posted May 10 Posted May 10 13 minutes ago, i spit on haters said: If these "online fools" weren't so loud in their support online, the world would forget about them and it would be another silent genocide. This is exactly what the person you're responding to and the person who keeps quoting me in this thread want. They do not give a **** about Palestinians and are tired of hearing about them. They know that it would be uncouth to admit this outright so instead they just derail every thread by arguing semantics or splitting hairs over stupid side topics. 4 2
Digitalism Posted May 10 Posted May 10 atm in my country 7 in 10 children are poor and most of them are malnourished and yet some influencers from my country are still talking about the palestines on tiktok This just to show that a lot of these influencers don't actually care about people in need they just want the likes on their posts 5 1
Into The Void Posted May 10 Posted May 10 Thing is u can post #FreePalestine all you want but it's not going to free Palestine. I don't get the point of these hashtags they don't actually do anything. 2 1
yonsé Posted May 10 Posted May 10 4 hours ago, perfect blue said: The very same homosexuals in this thread that claim their faves shouldn't be held accountable for not speaking out because they're "just celebrities" will write pages of deranged rants about the cultural impact of their favs when it's convenient for them. Lady Gaga is a somehow gay icon for her advocacy of LGBTQ rights in the early 2010s, and Beyonce's activism was crucial during the BLM movement. But now they suddenly lack cultural impact so speaking about Free Palestine would be pointless, right? Your hypocrisy does not go unnoticed. you mentioning two very LOCAL issues and then a centries long international incident that could spark WWIII......please open a book
Fleahive Posted May 10 Posted May 10 5 hours ago, Cesar said: Given that Beyonce was seemly tributing Black Panthers on the superbowl + showing support for black live matter + appearing to be anti-cop. it's interesting she hasn't been vocal about palestine, when those issues intersect on colonization & occupation of Palestine. Notice how she's outspoken about things that happen in HER community. She's a black American woman. This war that has been going on for decades btw has absolutely nothing to do with her. She is not one of these celebs that went on to try to be an activist for world peace. Please. The way the chronically online continue to make the focus of a war about a select group of singers that live on the other side of the world never seems to amaze me. This generation is DOOMED. 2 1
Fleahive Posted May 10 Posted May 10 5 hours ago, perfect blue said: The very same homosexuals in this thread that claim their faves shouldn't be held accountable for not speaking out because they're "just celebrities" will write pages of deranged rants about the cultural impact of their favs when it's convenient for them. Lady Gaga is a somehow gay icon for her advocacy of LGBTQ rights in the early 2010s, and Beyonce's activism was crucial during the BLM movement. But now they suddenly lack cultural impact so speaking about Free Palestine would be pointless, right? Your hypocrisy does not go unnoticed. Lady Gaga is apart of the LGBT community Beyonce is a black woman Neither are from Palestine or Israel. What does this have to do with them? What's your point?
Fleahive Posted May 10 Posted May 10 1 hour ago, Digitalism said: atm in my country 7 in 10 children are poor and most of them are malnourished and yet some influencers from my country are still talking about the palestines on tiktok This just to show that a lot of these influencers don't actually care about people in need they just want the likes on their posts The way they act like there's only one issue going on in the world and that's all anyone should talk about. It's soooo phony. They do not care about anyone they just want brownie points and attention. In America these are the same people that refuse to vote when it's election time. Just ass backwards mentality. 4 1
prettyinpink940 Posted May 10 Posted May 10 Some people chose not to support terrorism and good for them. They should not be blocked but they won't be anyway. 2 2
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