lonnie Posted May 13 Posted May 13 The only thing I don't agree with is the self-righteousness some of the people I've seen have. It seems they're more concerned with their political actions than the Palestinians facing a genocide. Other than that people have the right to follow, unfollow, and block whoever they want. Especially if the person in question has contrary views to yours. And I don't really see how this will affect anyone other than a few influencers. Instead of targeting celebrities, more energy and focus should be placed on the companies, institutions, and governments supporting and enabling the genocide and finding ways to get aid to Palestinians. All this other noise detracts from what's most important at this moment.
Letemtalk Posted May 13 Posted May 13 ATRL is more upset by this boycott than they are by a genocide. Your faves are billionaires and multi-millionaires, they are going to be o.k. if they lose a few followers. No one really thinks that people are going to stop listening to music. On 5/10/2024 at 10:33 AM, vale9001 said: What gives more celeb obsessed than going to see if a celeb said something about a political issue but not if your barber did It too Most stans on ATRL will rush to start a thread if their fave posted "black lives matter", or someone posted a picture of them waving a rainbow flag, or they said something to criticise Trump, or if they endorsed Democratic candidates for midterm elections. But now ATRL doesn't want them to be political? Most people don't need their favourite celebrity to tell then that dropping bombs on women and children is bad, or that targeting and killing journalists is bad, or that targeting doctors and hospitals is bad and killing and burying doctors and patients in mass graves is bad, or that deliberately creating a famine to stave a population is bad, and that performing amputations on prisoners is bad. When they see their own favourite artists speaking out, they see that they are not alone and might feel more confident in saying something. But if they see their favourite artists who are billionaires and multi-millionaires and according to ATRL, some of the most powerful people in industry remaining silent, and frightened to speak out, then those people might be more inclined to stay silent too. There are plenty of celebrities that signed that open letter supporting Joe Biden's handling of the Gaza war. Did any of them say "sorry I made a mistake" yet? 1 1 1
Margaux Posted May 13 Posted May 13 this is peak slacktivism. the social media truly rotten some people brains that they think this would stop the genocide 5 2
americanlife Posted May 13 Posted May 13 (edited) This lost steam very quickly and it's only a TikTok thing. No one in real life is blocking celebrities. #SJW Edited May 13 by americanlife 8
More Than A Melody Posted May 13 Posted May 13 3 hours ago, MattieB said: This entire post is a cavalcade of contradiction, at the very least you will UNDERSTAND the core principle of why people are removing access to their online data from celebrities and their associated companies. You following every boycott and attending protests does NOT absolve you from being blinded by celebrity worship because this time UNLIKE the others we're targeting celebrity worship, the very essence of yalls personalities. It's not a contradiction. Literally said in another thread that I will support the art of celebs whose art I like (of course) and who I don't think are terrible people, but that I do not look for them in terms of political or societal opinions. Why? Because I do not worship celebrities. I'm an adult with a job and responsibilities. I do not have time for celebrity worship. I do not have the motivation for celebrity worship. Just because I don't think it's a productive way to bring attention to this issue doesn't mean I worship celebrities. Where the hell is the correlation? Cause y'all keep repeating this over and over and yet not one of you have explained why. I don't follow celebrities on instagram. I follow exactly 47 people and they're all friends and family. The last time I posted on my feed was 2021 when someone close to me passed away. I have posted on my stories exactly one time in all of 2024. It will make absolutely ZERO difference if I block Beyoncé or don't. So why would I make "excuses" for myself? If I thought it'd be productive for me or anyone else to block celebs, then I'd just do it. I have zero motivation to say any of this. Quote NOW THIS I can agree with you on, HOWEVER, you have to give people grace, the met gala and that Haley bailey moron was the cherry on the cake. You can tell society has become restless from the years of abuse from their government and are lashing out any way they can. On my FYP the blocking is bringing more attention to Passthehat and Operation Olive Branch, its doing something. Its funny you bring up that performative black square BS back in 2020, the gestures may have been hollow, but peep the patterned behavior of people who denounced it then and how its repeating itself now. These people would've never cared regardless, then or now and will paint the movements black just so they can sleep well at night. Look at the inane comments in this thread alone I cannot give people grace for clogging every news avenue with irrelevant sh*t about celebrities, nope. The fact that the initial "blockout" video was by a man who had never talked about Palestine (or any important subject whatsoever) and whose objective was to gain followers, and went from 200 to 100,000 in 48 hours, and when exposed dipped, should tell you enough about what the motivation is and who benefits from this. The patterned behavior of what? People who denounced it then were BLACK PEOPLE who wanted their voices to be heard and were instead drowned by black f*cking squares. Be serious. Quote You simply do not get why this boycott was started, the boycott has zero to do with Biden's decisions, its to do with deified figures in society who are literally refusing to do their part by influencing their supporters to help the cause Of course she will, celebs buy followings all the time, I don't doubt the huge celebs will gain some if not all back, swifties alone will make sure their white overlord gets her lick back This is where you lose me. Because it just shows that y'all are not serious people. Will it have an impact to block Chris Olsen enough times for him to say something? Sure. Will it have an impact to block Rare Beauty enough times for them to donate money? Sure! I'm a marketing director for an international brand. I know EXACTLY the impact Instagram has on branding. It's the reason I don't personally use it much. The problem here is cost-benefit. Is whatever money Chris Olsen donates a good trade off for the absolute wall on information on Gaza in the past week? NO. Will this blockout have enough of an impact that someone like Beyoncé or Taylor Swift or The Rock will do something big enough to warrant this frenzy? NO. That's my point. I do get why this boycott was started, and that's MY WHOLE PROBLEM. It's just not good enough of a reason. In the middle of this boycott, Israel bombed Raffah and then bombed the entirety of the Gaza strip. And barely any of it made my usual news outlets because everyone was too busy arguing back and forth about whether to block Ariana or not! We cannot count on traditional media. Communication has been the biggest issue since this started. Demonizing Palestinian people, making excuses for Israel, outright lying, bold face, constantly. You were able to access a couple of important campaigns? Great. You clearly are tuned to this issue. Now think of the average person who ISN'T tuned to what's happening, who before got images of dying children on a daily basis, which radicalized a good chunk of the world audience, because you physically have to be a monster not to be radicalized. You got that? Ok, now that person is getting lists of celebrities. That's what's viral. If you don't think this is a MASSIVE issue, and you think getting Lizzo to share a couple of GoFundMe's is a good enough trade-off, then we end this conversation right here, because clearly there's no reasoning with you. Quote I don't think any of that matters, if people want to seize the data from celebrities and their respective companies let them, this is why engagement matters, you can have all the following but the following-to-engagement ratio matters a lot to ad statistics. Bots can only interact much. People feel helpless, alone and scared, we are watching CHILDREN BEING TORN APART ON THE DAILY, if this helps people cope LET THEM, the very least these celebs can do is shine their light of influence to AT THE VERY LEAST fast track the donations to help evacuate families from Gaza, THIS is why we're mad, the BARE MINIMUM is lost on them, they arent even doing THAT, but we should care about whoever the **** designer they got on the met gala. They can **** the entire hell out of here. If Yuval, a tiktoker with 1/1000000000000000000000 the influence of taylor swift helped raise 200k USD for a family, what do you think Taylor can do Has taylor done a free concert for her fans? has beyonce? do they do give aways? all these people do is take and take, and instead of yall focus to be on them, the "performative" movement is where yall's focus is on And herein lies the issue. You feel helpless and you want to do something and you don't know what to do, because so far, everything we've done has accomplished nothing. But this is more of the same if not worse. Celebrities will not lose engagement because of this. There's a ton of people who do not give a damn. Enough of them to drive sales and engagement without any of us helping. Most people blocking celebs are only blocking celebs they never interacted with. Or do not f*ck with celebrity culture whatsoever. Whenever I see one of those videos of who they blocked, they're never even following the celebs they're blocking. So what exactly is the impact here? Like I said, it'll impact a handful of brands and B list celebs. But that's NOT ENOUGH OF A TRADE OFF. MILLIONS of people live in Gaza. We cannot physically evacuate everyone. And Israel is bombing its entirety at this point. I'm not saying efforts to help individual families aren't important, I'm saying that we cannot lose sight of the MAIN issue and that's a cease fire. And blocking celebrities will not accomplish a cease fire. What it does accomplish is easing up the pressure on those in power because the layman person has stopped seeing the carnage, and the average person seeing the carnage is what led to student protests, to massive demonstrations, to blocking arms shipments, to the polls being the way they are. Once again, traditional media IS NOT HERE FOR US. TikTok became such a powerful tool Congress moved at light speed to BAN IT. Do you realize how unprecedented that is? Can you not understand how knowing that, looking at it and seeing this influence disintegrate to talk about F*CKING LADY GAGA is infuriating??? 6
qurl Posted May 13 Posted May 13 often times (nowadays anyway) these really important movements and moments in history get co-opted by terminally online single celled organisms who do nothing of real, tangible importance to these movements except attempt to shame and ostracize other people on the internet for things they only became cognizant of less than 6 months ago based on whether or not people do stupid arbitrary $h!t like this , which mind you is something they're being told that they should be doing and they just follow along the people of Palestine do not give a single f*ck where Beyoncé stands on the issue because she's not the one arming Israel … nor does she have any real power to stop the genocide. how bout yall go and BLOCK these zionist politicians from entering their offices instead of these hollow gestures of "solidarity" that do nothing to stop the bloodshed. it's a way for people to absolve themselves from responsibility and make themselves feel like they're doing something when they're not doing anything at all. anyone participating in this should be looked at and treated like the idiots they are. 1 7
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted May 13 ATRL Moderator Posted May 13 How is blocking a celebrity going to help Palestine in any way? 1 1
Fleahive Posted May 13 Posted May 13 @More Than A Melody you drag people with such class and your profile pic makes you hot. Just thought I'd throw that out there. 1
45seconds Posted May 13 Posted May 13 On 5/9/2024 at 6:46 PM, Cesar said: Given that Beyonce was seemly tributing Black Panthers on the superbowl + showing support for black live matter + appearing to be anti-cop. it's interesting she hasn't been vocal about palestine, when those issues intersect on colonization & occupation of Palestine. Beyoncé is black. Hope this helps.! 2
G.U.Y. Gaga Posted May 13 Posted May 13 After hearing people like Tiffany Hadish talk y'all should want them to stay quiet
Chris Posted May 13 Posted May 13 Has any celebrity had a decrease in followers because of this so far?
BGKC Posted May 14 Posted May 14 That one guy leading this movement is clearly a grifter using celebs to gain traction and fund his dream yacht lol. Like why not just spam your feeds in support for Palestine with history lessons/gofundmes that support displaced families or encourage people to block mainstream media outlets all together? Because for a lot of people blocking celebrities is just a way of projecting their own envy and/or disdain for excessive decadence more than it has anything to do with Palestine. It's not like most of these ppl had any content prior that would even suggest they were pro Palestine to begin with. It's just one big circlejerk that collectively still allows people to obsess over celebrities in the most ironic way.
Maybe Posted May 14 Posted May 14 16 hours ago, Scandalous said: perfect response tbh This response is obnoxious. Post something else about the genocide instead of getting defensive? 1
ZeroSuitBritney Posted May 14 Posted May 14 Let's all just block Nicki and Taylor and call it a successful movement
Inverted Posted May 14 Posted May 14 On 5/9/2024 at 6:52 PM, KFC said: Idk if she's spoken up about Palestine or not but I blocked JLo. Happy to do my part Jennifer Lopez and her husband are like the only A-List celebs to ask for a ceasefire when everyone else was condemning the Hamas attacks and ignoring the fact Gaza is being decimated. 1
Aethereal Posted May 14 Posted May 14 On 5/13/2024 at 1:25 PM, TouchinFree said: What's the point of this? Not like they care to begin with. Boycott your governments the ones that are funding wars against children. All major brands we buy fund genocides in Gaza and have been funding genocides in Yemen for years on now yet the media don't show you that. Or the corruption funded in Africa and the Middle East, Iraq. Let's not. Whilst I think any effort is appreciated, this is useless. Going after Hollywood the biggest Israeli funded industry is just useless. Celebs have to be Israel's number one ally otherwise..... well that's another story. America was not involved in Yemen. Saudis PAID for the weapons from America. And American weapons are more precise to avoid civilians casualties'. I am sure Saudis have and can use weapons of their own.
BionicWooHoo Posted May 14 Posted May 14 On 5/13/2024 at 5:33 AM, Kiss It Better said: i don't care if they get criticized lol i criticize them too but blocking celebrities won't do anything, but protesting and donating will You can't multitask? also how do you think you get people to protest and donate? Cuz let me tell you, the blocking campaign has gotten more celebs/influencers to post about gofundme and subsequently raised more money than I ever could have with my private 600+ IG account
TouchinFree Posted May 15 Posted May 15 (edited) Yeah I've TOTALLY changed my mind and jumping ships immediately and totally on board with this. Just listen to this girl, she spilled. This is for a MUCH bigger cause and might just...might start an actual online revolution. Also I did NOT know about that girl Haylee's " let them eat cake" what an insensitive gesture at THIS time. Also 75k to just attend this so called "charity" event? Yeah that's just terrible regardless of whatever we all think. "Inflation" has set us all workers back decades . We can barely afford rent and keep up with bills. Then there's children literally dying in some parts of the world that WE are all collectively contributing from the taxes taken out of our wages that we can barely get BY. I can definitely understand the frustration. First Hollywood then politicians..... sounds great. Edited May 15 by TouchinFree 1 2 1
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