official chart Billboard Charts (Week of May 11, 2024)

[raisetheroof]

I don't understand how people think there is something suspicious about her pure sales plummeting in week two.

 

I, like the majority of her fans buying a copy, purchased the physical copy the first week, it's not like I'm going to … buy it again?

[brenda-walsh]

26 minutes ago, Squall said:

Not thing being the only thing that comes to your mind, not only it was in 2015 in a market with healthier pure sales but also, it had the Thanksgiving boost  

not you getting triggered over a small comment  get over yourself 

[Squall]

3 minutes ago, dumbsparce said:

So she relies on variants to sell as much as she does? Is that what you're saying?

? You know that people can be interested in having an alternative edition instead of the main one (like me since I didn't get one). I am just saying it didn't help.

 

4 minutes ago, anti-***** said:

Lol Thanksgiving was during its release week. And that does not explain how 25 did three weeks above 1M pure sales.

 

And the "sales climate" doesn't affect Taylor's first week sales because her fans buy anything she releases, but from the second week forward it hits her too. The general public just doesn't buy albums anymore, except for some of gen z.

She had Xmas/year-end boost, stop playing dumb please.

 

And yes, the sales climate does have something to do, especially when we are talking about the GP + second week.

Edited May 5 by Squall

[Michael196]

1 minute ago, dumbsparce said:

A 2 million drop  Sth is just not adding up, I'm sorry.

At least she got 2M to lose, can't say that for anyone else, hell, they can barely hit that in a year…

[Squall]

1 minute ago, brenda-walsh said:

not you getting triggered over a small comment  get over yourself 

I am not the one coming in a BB200 thread to dislike a joke and using another artist to minimize another artist's 2nd week numbers, if someone has to get over themselves, it's you  

[family.guy123]

53 minutes ago, Squall said:

Maybe they meant modern era and not prehistoric times? 

Back when physical sales were still relevant?

[brenda-walsh]

1 minute ago, Squall said:

I am not the one coming in a BB200 thread to dislike a joke and using another artist to minimize another artist's 2nd week numbers, if someone has to get over themselves, it's you  

because your joke was incredibly unfunny

 

and where did i minimize anyone's achievement? i specifically said "this" (taylor's second week numbers) show how impressive adele's numbers were. i'm not taking anything away from what taylor did, in fact i'm putting into perspective that her numbers were really amazing 

[Squall]

2 minutes ago, brenda-walsh said:

because your joke was incredibly unfunny

 

and where did i minimize anyone's achievement? i specifically said "this" (taylor's second week numbers) show how impressive adele's numbers were. i'm not taking anything away from what taylor did, in fact i'm putting into perspective that her numbers were really amazing 

It made some people laugh it seems, maybe you are the one being too serious  

 

Sure, as if it means anything positive, the Adele mention was unnecessary and you perfectly knew what you were doing  

Edited May 5 by Squall

[roso]

3M in two weeks is isane for reference, it took Midnights 8 weeks to hit that mark

[Patient Zero]

That drop is insane when Adele still did more than 1mln second week.

 

This also confirms first week sales inflation with Swifties buying the 65 versions of the album during first week.

 

 

[brenda-walsh]

1 minute ago, Squall said:

It made some people laugh it seems, maybe you are the one being too serious  

 

Sure, as if it means anything positive, the Adele mention was unnecessary and you perfectly knew what you were doing  

there are as many people that disliked your "joke" as there are that liked it, so maybe it really wasn't that funny after all 

 

and pls take off your Swiftie stan goggles and realize that just because someone isn't blowing smoke up her ass, it doesn't mean they hate her or are trying to drag her. some of the very first replies in this thread were about adele, so yes, it made me realize how impressive her numbers were. praising one artist ≠ tearing another down 

[americanshameless]

12 minutes ago, Squall said:

I am not the one coming in a BB200 thread to dislike a joke and using another artist to minimize another artist's 2nd week numbers

 

1 hour ago, Squall said:

Maybe they meant modern era and not prehistoric times? 

Edited May 5 by americanshameless

[anti-bitch]

1 minute ago, Squall said:

 

 

She had Xmas/year-end boost, stop playing dumb please.

 

And yes, the sales climate does have something to do, especially when we are talking about the GP + second week.

As if Taylor has not benefited from holiday sales/Q4 release before? i thought it was odd she released in April

 

But the second week pure sales drop is a sign that she gets most of her sales from her fans. i think it happened with her previous albums too. And that's great for her ofc. I mean, that she gets such sales still. It's just that I've seen some swifties get upset if we say that her pure sales a fan-driven

 

Anyway,  TTPD is doing great still. Nothing to say against that

[Squall]

Just now, brenda-walsh said:

there are as many people that disliked your "joke" as there are that liked it, so maybe it really wasn't that funny after all 

 

and pls take off your Swiftie stan goggles and realize that just because someone isn't blowing smoke up her ass, it doesn't mean they hate her or are trying to drag her. some of the very first replies in this thread were about adele, so yes, it made me realize how impressive her numbers were. praising one artist ≠ tearing another down 

 

Just now, americanshameless said:

 

Shocking fact: Britney stans didn't laugh  

 

« this proves that Adele were so big » is nothing but a compliment, stop pretending and move on, the Adele base probably needs your posts.

[raisetheroof]

Also, after a quick google search, Cowboy Carter's physical sales plummeted by 88% on the second week, eternal sunshine's by 56%. Going back to 2023, Guts' pure sales went down by 84% in its second week while Pink Friday 2's declined by roughly the same.

 

Why are people acting like it's not on par, as if it was doing worse than its contemporaries, just because in absolute terms the decline was larger? It declined 83%, practically the same as other releases, but just had somewhere higher to fall from.

 

Do these people really not understand basic principles of proportionality?

[Squall]

Just now, anti-***** said:

As if Taylor has not benefited from holiday sales/Q4 release before? i thought it was odd she released in April

 

But the second week pure sales drop is a sign that she gets most of her sales from her fans. i think it happened with her previous albums too. And that's great for her ofc. I mean, that she gets such sales still. It's just that I've seen some swifties get upset if we say that her pure sales a fan-driven

 

Anyway,  TTPD is doing great still. Nothing to say against that

I didn't say she never did but we can also say TTPD is her peak (at the moment).

 

The second week pure sales drop was to be excepted in 2024 as no one cares about pure sales anymore. I am not saying Adele wasn't an anomaly back in 2015, I am saying the GP was still more willing to buy an album than it is in 2024. In 2024, what matters for longevity is SEA so I am not sure why some are still trying with the lame pure sales argument.

[brenda-walsh]

2 minutes ago, Squall said:

« this proves that Adele were so big » is nothing but a compliment, stop pretending and move on, the Adele base probably needs your posts.

it is a compliment to both artists, but clearly adele is a touchy subject for you so that's your problem! 

[Squall]

3 minutes ago, brenda-walsh said:

it is a compliment to both artists, but clearly adele is a touchy subject for you so that's your problem! 

Is it? We can discuss their latest albums if you are passionate about her.

[By the Water]

People talking about Adele still haven't realized how streaming changed the industry, have they? TTPD's second week ranks among the top 10 biggest streaming weeks of all time but that only translates into 330k units (for reference, 25's second week was the 14th biggest sales-week at the time). Don't be surprised when TTPD starts outpacing 25 in the future just like Midnights did, though I'm sure people will then remember the differences between the digital and the streaming era 

[NEX]

TTPD & 25 are the only albums in history to drop over 2m in a week. Not everyone has that

[Twizzy]

3 minutes ago, raisetheroof said:

Also, after a quick google search, Cowboy Carter's physical sales plummeted by 88% on the second week, eternal sunshine's by 56%. Going back to 2023, Guts' pure sales went down by 84% in its second week while Pink Friday 2's declined by roughly the same.

 

Why are people acting like it's not on par, as if it was doing worse than its contemporaries, just because in absolute terms the decline was larger? It declined 83%, practically the same as other releases, but just had somewhere higher to fall from.

 

Do these people really not understand basic principles of proportionality?

Cowboy Carter went down by 69%, not 88%... You are correct about Eternal Sunshine.

[Rep2000]

29 minutes ago, dumbsparce said:

A 2 million drop  Sth is just not adding up, I'm sorry.

Would you say the same thing about Adele too I wonder. Stay true to your namesake I guess.

[The Music Industry]

Cannot believe some people are genuinely trying to drag someone who did 440K second week

[brenda-walsh]

3 minutes ago, Squall said:

Is it? We can discuss their latest albums if you are passionate about her.

i really loved 30, everyone said she rehashed her work but i loved that she was very inspired by jazz and the album felt like much more of a lounge + cocktail album than just her standard piano ballads 

[Klein]

2 minutes ago, Twizzy said:

Cowboy Carter went down by 69%, not 88%... You are correct about Eternal Sunshine.

No, it's the total units that went down 69%. The pure sales went down 88%. 

 

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Of Cowboy Carter's second-week unit sum of 128,000, SEA units comprise 105,500 (down 53%, equaling 136.08 million on-demand official streams of the set's songs), traditional album sales comprise 20,500 (down 88%) and TEA units comprise 2,000 (down 70%).