Wicked Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 TMZ trying to smother this when we know they're on Drakes payroll lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specter Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Drake is dropping again? Why? Just shut up what else is there to say he's making it worse for himself. Even if Kendricks subsequent response is mid, he still did what he did. Where do we even go from here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinorhino Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 37 minutes ago, Relampago. said: It really is SO sweet that Kendrick not only out-rapped Drake (no surprise), but also managed to out-hit THEE hit maker Drake. Beating him at his own game Not Like Us is about to be one of the biggest rap songs in awhile, and Like That was already huge It's not really a feat to out rap Drake and the intention of the diss tracks from either party weren't to be hits, but it's more of a drag that the only way for Kendrick to not struggle to get hits (especially a solo hit) is for him to diss Drake People flop back and forth between saying it's not a numbers game/not about success in a genre where predominately brag about their riches and how much better they are over someone else and only want to bring up career success when they have the advantage, idgi 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimulus Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 1 hour ago, 4RCH1M3D35 said: An apology is unwarranted and won't change anything. The only way this works for the label is to have Kendrick ghost write for Drake. Call the album "The Best of Both Worlds". An homage to the other album by Jay Z and R. Kelly, a rapper and a pedophile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relampago. Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 4 minutes ago, dinorhino said: It's not really a feat to out rap Drake and the intention of the diss tracks from either party weren't to be hits, but it's more of a drag that the only way for Kendrick to not struggle to get hits (especially a solo hit) is for him to diss Drake People flop back and forth between saying it's not a numbers game/not about success in a genre where predominately brag about their riches and how much better they are over someone else and only want to bring up career success when they have the advantage, idgi Humble was a mega hit tho? Swimming Pools? Alright? But beyond the fact Kendrick does have hits, NLU/Euphoria/Like That just shows he can get a hit whenever he pleases, he's just concerned with expressing his artistry while Drake is concerned with pumping out forgettable hits like Toosie Slide 11 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 14 minutes ago, dinorhino said: It's not really a feat to out rap Drake and the intention of the diss tracks from either party weren't to be hits, but it's more of a drag that the only way for Kendrick to not struggle to get hits (especially a solo hit) is for him to diss Drake People flop back and forth between saying it's not a numbers game/not about success in a genre where predominately brag about their riches and how much better they are over someone else and only want to bring up career success when they have the advantage, idgi Get this cope out of here. Aubreys angels have been backing their boy as being both the best in the game and the most popular. Comparing flexing in lyrics to how the culture values rappers is bullshit, which is exactly why the angels are getting dragged. At the end of the day the fabric of Hip Hop discussion is not reliant on commercial success, we go for talent first. Kendrick just so happens to be whooping his ass on and off the charts. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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4RCH1M3D35 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 22 minutes ago, Stimulus said: An homage to the other album by Jay Z and R. Kelly, a rapper and a pedophile I was wodnering if I was getting too old for this forum. Thanks for the rescue! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchmoodRing Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 1 hour ago, Relampago. said: It really is SO sweet that Kendrick not only out-rapped Drake (no surprise), but also managed to out-hit THEE hit maker Drake. Beating him at his own game Not Like Us is about to be one of the biggest rap songs in awhile, and Like That was already huge Someone has literally gotten shot. Can ya not be petty stans and chill for a bit. 1 hour ago, Specter said: Drake is dropping again? Why? Just shut up what else is there to say he's making it worse for himself. Even if Kendricks subsequent response is mid, he still did what he did. Where do we even go from here? Oh nevermind this a dumb case of egos. But whatever. End it now Aubrey. Someone literally almost died on your property. Bigger **** is going on now. 48 minutes ago, Relampago. said: Humble was a mega hit tho? Swimming Pools? Alright? But beyond the fact Kendrick does have hits, NLU/Euphoria/Like That just shows he can get a hit whenever he pleases, he's just concerned with expressing his artistry while Drake is concerned with pumping out forgettable hits like Toosie Slide Drake factually has more hits than Kendrick. One is an actual artist. The other is a popstar. 43 minutes ago, Wicked said: Get this cope out of here. Aubreys angels have been backing their boy as being both the best in the game and the most popular. Comparing flexing in lyrics to how the culture values rappers is bullshit, which is exactly why the angels are getting dragged. At the end of the day the fabric of Hip Hop discussion is not reliant on commercial success, we go for talent first. Kendrick just so happens to be whooping his ass on and off the charts. Hip hop is still also reliant on commercial success though so that's a lie 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinorhino Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 35 minutes ago, Wicked said: Get this cope out of here. Aubreys angels have been backing their boy as being both the best in the game and the most popular. Comparing flexing in lyrics to how the culture values rappers is bullshit, which is exactly why the angels are getting dragged. At the end of the day the fabric of Hip Hop discussion is not reliant on commercial success, we go for talent first. Kendrick just so happens to be whooping his ass on and off the charts. Do you call anything that you don't agree with cope? Drake has always been a crappy rapper (although tbf Kendrick's voice is twice as cringey, but lyrically he is noticeably better but the two cancel each other out) and I realised this several years ago, but he is the most popular and most successful rapper (and subsequently, most popular) by a longshot and even now, that's not to be denied. Hip hop by and large has always been a flexing game and not a sole let alone predominant emphasis on talent so that's also not true either. Even for rappers who don't have a background of doing crossovers like Drake/don't have crossover hits on pop platforms, a substantial number of modern popular rap songs reflect little to no talent lol. People do not care about talent, they want a bop, which is why Not Like Us is being received so well because it is a bop even though prior diss tracks were better from a talent perspective. My biggest ick of this entire feud is the hypocrisy as well as them using serious allegations of pedophilia and domestic violence with zero proof for fodder in silly drama and the gp being too dumb to not take it 100% completely seriously 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dinorhino Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 23 minutes ago, REDMAN said: All the while collaborating with a pedophile on his diss tracks too 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gesamtkunstwerk Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 34 minutes ago, dinorhino said: Do you call anything that you don't agree with cope? Drake has always been a crappy rapper (although tbf Kendrick's voice is twice as cringey, but lyrically he is noticeably better but the two cancel each other out) and I realised this several years ago, but he is the most popular and most successful rapper (and subsequently, most popular) by a longshot and even now, that's not to be denied. Hip hop by and large has always been a flexing game and not a sole let alone predominant emphasis on talent so that's also not true either. Even for rappers who don't have a background of doing crossovers like Drake/don't have crossover hits on pop platforms, a substantial number of modern popular rap songs reflect little to no talent lol. People do not care about talent, they want a bop, which is why Not Like Us is being received so well because it is a bop even though prior diss tracks were better from a talent perspective. My biggest ick of this entire feud is the hypocrisy as well as them using serious allegations of pedophilia and domestic violence with zero proof for fodder in silly drama and the gp being too dumb to not take it 100% completely seriously So there's no discussion to be having, because hip hop isn't about talent and authenticity, it's about numbers and flexing ? Ok. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinorhino Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 12 minutes ago, Gesamtkunstwerk said: So there's no discussion to be having, because hip hop isn't about talent and authenticity, it's about numbers and flexing ? Ok. You need to re-read what I said because I was merely calling out the hypocrisy. The fans of the genre that is mostly recycled lyrics about flexing and being more successful~popular than your opps or any given person suddenly only wants to talk about commercial success not being relevant when they didn't achieve it and now want to weaponise it against Drake/have it be a relevant factor because it's something they've finally achieved lmao. Hip hop stopped being only let alone largely about talent a long ass time ago and even now Not Like Us is overwhelmingly liked because it's a bop, not because it's lyrically the superior choice of out Kendrick's diss tracks and rapping skills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 The reddit and discord posts were real. Mind you, he is directly tapped into Kendrick. He said MTG was dropping 20 minutes before it dropped and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space&Time Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Not Like Us is a bop, it's clever, it's viceral, it's got bars, and it was the death nail for Fake. Kendrick completely enraptured the culture. He isn't releasing an album every 4 months and hopping on trends to be fad like for the sake of snatching hits and being in the public eye 24/7. He's an artist, he makes albums, extremely regarded, acclaimed, respected, and sells better than most. The idea that he needs this beef with Fake to make a hit is dumb when he has them already and is showing us he has the talent and witt to spit a out hit in literally 5 hours. He literally beat Fake at his own game. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgos Groove Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Drake stans trying to pull the commercial success card... nah, you're not gonna Pusha T your way out of this one. Kendrick has the arts and the charts. Plus, like other people have mentioned, numbers are not as important as talent and quality in hip hop (pop could learn a thing or two, and I say this as a pop fan). This is what happens when you let hubris get in the way. He thought his numbers would back him up against Kendrick ******* Lamar in a rap battle and he just got a cold dose of reality. It was over for him the moment "with some bodyguards like Whitney" came out of his mouth. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rep2000 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 (edited) 7 hours ago, Specter said: Drake is dropping again? Why? Just shut up what else is there to say he's making it worse for himself. Even if Kendricks subsequent response is mid, he still did what he did. Where do we even go from here? Because his last response is just so, so bad lol. And Drake's pride is too fragile to take an L with grace. Edited May 8 by Rep2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roso Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Still #1 in the US with 6,812,361 It's now the 10th biggest streaming day ever on Spotify US 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armani? Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 26 minutes ago, roso said: Still #1 in the US with 6,812,361 It's now the 10th biggest streaming day ever on Spotify US Going on Category 6 Hurricane status 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braz Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Not O-V-Hoe becoming a summer chant... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wicked Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 (edited) Streaming my heart out on Tidal since I have a premium subscription there but not Spotify. 2 hours ago, Virgos Groove said: Drake stans trying to pull the commercial success card... nah, you're not gonna Pusha T your way out of this one. Kendrick has the arts and the charts. Plus, like other people have mentioned, numbers are not as important as talent and quality in hip hop (pop could learn a thing or two, and I say this as a pop fan). This is what happens when you let hubris get in the way. He thought his numbers would back him up against Kendrick ******* Lamar in a rap battle and he just got a cold dose of reality. It was over for him the moment "with some bodyguards like Whitney" came out of his mouth. And people still acknowledge Pusha T got that ass Aubreys Angels are the whipping boys of Hip Hop discussion because they stay bringing up numbers. Pusha T destroying him can be brushed aside but Kendrick can't. Thats why I think Drake never wanted to get direct. Edited May 8 by Wicked 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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