base talk Bigger era: Hard Candy vs Taking Chances

[prettyinpink940]

 

Released few months from each other, the two eras produced two of the highest-grossing female tours of all time.

 

 

 

 

[TitanicSurvivor]

Kinda weird to compare a hip hop record to a rock one but anyway

[Shimenawa]

Marge's last good album >>

[1989]

Strange comparison, but Taking Chances is one of Celine's best albums. 

[duybeeGAshantiGA]

At least 4 Minutes was a moderate hit. I am more of a Celine fan tho.

[Antisocialites]

Hard Candy is actually a good album and I don't care what people say

[WEEKND]

I see why we don't use Celine as a pokemon 

 

It's strange and it's hard to shade ha

 

Still going with Madge for this alone

 

 

[Facelessboy]

Taking chances is Celine best 00s album

[John Slayne]

never heard of Taking Chances until this thread so Hard Candy

[xperience30]

Hard Candy bigger era

Taking Chances better album 

[TotallyHot]

Hard Candy and it's not close. 

[Cardcaptor Sakura]

Both are great. Love both albums and both tours.

the fact that I have both the CDs >>>>>>

Both are definitely better than the other divas that released around the same time.

Edited April 30 by Cardcaptor Sakura

[JoAddams]

Candy Shop did that 

[Lament]

Honestly I opened this thread not knowing what Taking Chances was…

[Squall]

15 minutes ago, Lament said:

Honestly I opened this thread not knowing what Taking Chances was…

Not surprising since this site loves spending time minimizing Céline's career and success.

[ithinkheknowsoutsold]

Hard Candy was the bigger era but as an album Taking Chances sold about the same actually (both are at around 3.5 million pure sales globally, with Hard Candy being bigger in mainland Europe and Asia whilst Taking Chances sold more in the Anglosphere). The lack of an obvious hit like 4 Minutes for Madge has obviously affected the latter's current public perception though, and also explains the difference in their recurrent streams, as without 4 Minutes the albums are only like 20 million streams apart (100 million for Hard Candy and 78 million for Taking Chances, 4 Minutes boosts Hard Candy to 450 million). 

[ithinkheknowsoutsold]

8 minutes ago, Squall said:

Not surprising since this site loves spending time minimizing Céline's career and success.

Exactly, it just shows their ignorance.

[naval23]

2 hours ago, Lament said:

Honestly I opened this thread not knowing what Taking Chances was…

the 35th biggest selling album of 2008 in the US (Hard Candy was below top 50)

[UseYourIllusion2002]

1 hour ago, ithinkheknowsoutsold said:

Exactly, it just shows their ignorance.

Because I don't know a Celine album, that didn't have a massive hit, from when I was 5 years old? Okay 

 

I'm going with Hard Candy for all because I am ignorant.

[NoAngelus]

9 hours ago, duybeeGAshantiGA said:

At least 4 Minutes was a moderate hit. I am more of a Celine fan tho.

Most artists wish for a moderate hit like this:

Australia (ARIA)[42]	1
Belgium (Ultratop 50 Flanders)[90]	1
Belgium (Ultratop 50 Wallonia)[91]	1
Canada (Canadian Hot 100)[92]	1
Canada CHR/Top 40 (Billboard)[94]	1
Canada Hot AC (Billboard)[95]	1
Costa Rica (Monitor Latino)[97]	1
Denmark (Tracklisten)[100]	1
European Hot 100 Singles (Billboard)[53]	1
European Radio Airplay (Billboard)[53]	1
Finland (Suomen virallinen lista)[102]	1
Germany (Official German Charts)[104]	1
Global Dance Songs (Billboard)[105]	1
Greece Digital Songs (Billboard)[106]	1
Hungary (Rádiós Top 40)[108]	1
Ireland (IRMA)[110]	1
Italy (FIMI)[111]	1
Mexico (Top 20 – Inglés)[113]	1
Netherlands (Dutch Top 40)[114]	1
Netherlands (Single Top 100)[115]	1
Norway (VG-lista)[116]	1
Portugal Digital Songs (Billboard)[118]	1
Romania (Romanian Top 100)[119]	1
Scotland (OCC)[121]	1
Spain (PROMUSICAE)[123]	1
Switzerland (Schweizer Hitparade)[125]	1
Turkey (Billboard)[126]	1
UK Singles (OCC)[46]	1
UK Hip Hop/R&B (OCC)[127]	1
US Dance Club Songs (Billboard)[130]	1
US Dance/Mix Show Airplay (Billboard)[131]	1
Venezuela Pop/Rock (Record Report)[134]	1
Austria (Ö3 Austria Top 40)[89]	2
El Salvador (Monitor Latino)[101]	2
France (SNEP)[103]	2
Hungary (Single Top 40)[109]	2
Russia Airplay (TopHit)[120]	2
Slovakia (Rádio Top 100)[122]	2
Sweden (Sverigetopplistan)[124]	2
Chile (Monitor Latino)[96]	3
Japan (Japan Hot 100)[112]	3
New Zealand (Recorded Music NZ)[44]	3
Poland (ZPAV)[117]	3
US Billboard Hot 100[128]	3
Czech Republic (Rádio – Top 100)[99]	4
CIS (TopHit)[98]	5
US Mainstream Top 40 (Billboard)[31]	5
Hungary (Dance Top 40)[107]	8
Argentina (CAPIF)[88]	13

[nostalgic]

Taking Chances made no noise in the US - I can't even remember any of the singles or if I heard them during that time. That's not to demean Céline, it's just the facts. She was still selling like crazy but radio wasn't playing her and neither was the music channels. Madge on the other hand was still everywhere.

[VioletsandRoses]

I'd say it's even. Celine selling on par with no hits is amazing. Hard Candy had 4 minutes and 2 other moderate hits. The album would've probably only sold half of that if it wasn't for those hits. Remember before streaming, you needed hits in order to sell an album. Very few artists did it without a big hit (Amy, Duffy, Norah, etc). Though the first two had a couple good sized hits in the long run. 

[Chris]

Hard Candy but it's nothing to write home about.

 

[MP3]

Overall Hard Candy is the bigger in term of cultural impact and hits but it's fascinating how Taking Chances sold the same amount while being a very low profile album like some user said

 

Taking Chances is very underrated, it has some good tracks