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12 minutes ago, The Next Day said:

He's also praising Taylor here:bam:

Miss Neil is a messy bottom he knew pretty well what he was doing when he called Taylor the "Margeret Tatcher of pop" let's not :dies:

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Posted
1 minute ago, Shelter said:

It's much easier in general to stay relevant now though and you don't even have to do as much. Back then you had to have hits or you would get dropped. They didn't have the reach back then, now you just have social media to do most of the work. 


Social media definitely has more advantages but there's 1000x more competition 

 

Artists these days also have to compete with youtubers, influencers and tiktokers for attention 

 

Those old acts had everything done and automatic fame with just a record deal

 

If you had a contact in a label and a shot to be listened you had 80% of the job done

 

 

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I think it depends of age demographics. None of my friends who are over 30-35 can name a Taylor song. 

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20 minutes ago, MatiRod said:

That is not true in 2024 :rip: 

Yes it is. Still.

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Shake It Off is her Billie Jean

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Posted (edited)
18 minutes ago, Gui Blackout said:

This argument is so circa 2014, keep up :laugh:

 

Her global stats speak for itself, not mention her currently being in the middle of the biggest global stadium tour of all time. But yeah no one knows her outside the US

Still they don't know her name nor a single song. Still the same in 2024.

That group said it themselves. 

Not my fault people outside the us don't know her nor her forgettable and disposable  songs.

 

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10 hours ago, thequeenofpopmadonna said:

This has been my exact point since a million years ago.

Outside the us, most people don't know her name, nor do they remember her forgettable and disposable songs. I challenge most people even name her song.

That's reality. But ny times and the media are making too much work to make her look bigger than she actually is. Maybe her team pays pieces for good looking articles. Pr job.

Same case here in my country they call 'Taylor Nation'. She's so famous but the gp/masses can't name a single song by her after Blank Space. She just slays local Spotify due to most of the users are her audience aka the GenZ and the upper classes. Majority of the people here don't use it or even aware such platform exists. Her fame is a bubble but a big bubble like those kpop fandoms. 

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Courtney said she's not important. She was right.

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2 minutes ago, charot said:

Same case here in my country they call 'Taylor Nation'. She's so famous but the gp/masses can't name a single song by her after Blank Space. She's just slays local Spotify due to most of the users are her audience aka the GenZ and the upper classes. Majority of the people here don't use it or even aware such platform exists. Her popularity is a bubble but a big bubble like those kpop fandoms. 

Another proof :clap3:

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6 minutes ago, spiritboy said:

I think it depends of age demographics. None of my friends who are over 30-35 can name a Taylor song. 

I know is just your experience but Taylor has a lot of fans in their late 30s or even early 40s

 

They were part of the people buying her albums back in the 00s

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Taylor is the Avatar (the film franchise) of music. Both enormously successful, both without an enduring legacy in popular culture

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What is a pet shop boy? :suburban:

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3 minutes ago, thequeenofpopmadonna said:

Still they don't know her name nor a single song. Still the same in 2024.

That group said it themselves. 

Not my fault people outside the us don't know her nor her forgettable and disposable  songs.

 

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The girl is breaking touring records WW in every country she's stepping in so this whole no ones knows her outside of US is BS...

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I need to stream the new PSB album Nonetheless (Out this Friday), so just one last thought concerning "Why is he using her name?": Taylor Swift is a unique talent with a never before seen success in the industry. Nobody occupies the same level as her. If we want to discuss Taylor's level of success, we need to say her name. He's basically saying Taylor is at the forefront of a new generation of superstars, an innovator that defies the usual of what success is. I would understand if the Kpop fans were pissed since these phenomena overlap a bit in the Western hemisphere (or at least are not totally new!), but I don't understand how you could be mad at what is basically praise for your fave.

 

21 minutes ago, Venice B said:

Miss Neil is a messy bottom he knew pretty well what he was doing when he called Taylor the "Margeret Tatcher of pop" let's not :dies:

It's definetly more cheeky than other things he said, but he has respect for her relentless grind for success. You know how we kii about chart-obsessed artists nowadays? That was Neil Tennant in the 80s, he was obsessed with his chart runs and making the right career decisions. I think he saw the same in Taylor (and he didn't lie).

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1 hour ago, Digitalism said:

I think he did. He is just saying that for someone with that huge peak there wasn't any unescapable singles. There's nothing wrong with that

It's because the "inescapable song" is a relic of the monoculture that doesn't exist anymore

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1 hour ago, Digitalism said:

I think he did. He is just saying that for someone with that huge peak there wasn't any unescapable singles. There's nothing wrong with that

It's because the "inescapable song" is a relic of the monoculture that doesn't exist anymore

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6 minutes ago, UnusualBoy said:

The girl is breaking touring records WW in every country she's stepping in so this whole no ones knows her outside of US is BS...

So?? Touring makes the whole nation go see her? Still most people and the majority of a nation don't know her outside the us and her sportify listeners as well as crazed swifties. 

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1 hour ago, Bimbo said:

We've been saying this

 

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17 minutes ago, spiritboy said:

I think it depends of age demographics. None of my friends who are over 30-35 can name a Taylor song. 

And if you ask someone under 35 outside the uk what a pet shop boy is they'll tell you a man that works at a pet store.

 

As much as I may not be a fan of a lot of Taylor's music. Denying her popularity and success and then propping up some artists that haven't had a hit since the 90s as more remembered is very boomered even for atrl with their just recently abandoned Xtina vs Britney threads.

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None of my friends name a single song by her. Neither do they care for her

Swifties are in denial. 

The reality differs from yours. 

I don't live in the us anyway, so I could tell by my experience too.

Keep dreaming in local.

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Just now, thequeenofpopmadonna said:

None of my friends name a single song by her. Neither do they care for her

Swifties are in denial. 

The reality differs from yours. 

I don't live in the us anyway.

Keep dreaming. 

I mean your name is queen of pop Madonna you're probably from gen x.

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Just now, JO1s said:

I mean your name is queen of pop Madonna you're probably from gen x.

 

1 minute ago, JO1s said:

I mean your name is queen of pop Madonna you're probably from gen x.

What does it have to do with age?

Nevertheless, my point still stands

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Shake It Off is her Billie Jean

 

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25 minutes ago, MidnightsAtPeace said:

What is a pet shop boy? :suburban:

look it up you're gonna learn a lot of good music 

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