Shelter Posted April 22 Posted April 22 You definitely care, trying to pretend you don't. Pitchfork likes and comments going off 1 1
Death & Decay Posted April 22 Posted April 22 I'd just like to know why everyone puts Pitchfork on a pedestal. 3
KillingYourCareer Posted April 22 Posted April 22 Does anyone outside of people who can't formulate their own opinions care about reviews? 1
liquiddiamonds Posted April 22 Posted April 22 (edited) Reviewers were needed when we had to make choices regarding which record to buy. These days you can just stream it. It's why most of these publications are going out of business. some are interesting writers, that write about the genres they enjoy following and make great cultural points, though. Unfortunately these are few and between within today's market of short review and out by the release day. Writing critically about something is a dying form. Only website I still follow up for a review is Allmusic, because they usually put the same writer to follow the artist throughout the years, they're also quite immersed in particular genres and whenever a new opus arrive they adjust past scores. Another one is Robert Christgau, but he's gone paywall and it's still lowkey a relic of boomer writing era. Pitchfork lives off previous cred, because they have been uninteresting for years as tastemakers and don't even stand by most indie artists they pushed on us past two albums. Like on the opposite side of the P4k spectrum, it's kinda ridiculous how Rolling Stone has been handing every Taylor release 5 stars since RedTV. There's no sense whatsoever of context regarding her own catalogue and where that new album fits or even the much larger pop music canon. If everything is an instant 5, what makes her other 5s that took years to get there bonafide classics? Same feeling I have with their all time lists in which they add the flavor of the month among classics only to remove them down the line and look like fools (love Olivia, but why is SOUR already in their list of the 500 Greatest of all Time when it's not even HER best album and came out 3 years ago? lol). These publications know these lists hook people, so now there's at least one yearly with the most predictable choices. No wonder new generations are tuning into Melon and even reactors because at least they avoid these big statements and just look like people with an opinion while the watcher wants to be validated or at least entertained about a record they care Edited April 22 by liquiddiamonds 1
dumbsparce Posted April 22 Posted April 22 I'm neither a stan nor a hater but the ones I see bothered are the swifties. The haters cackled and moved on while the stans are sending death threats over that mediocre score. 1
Tudors Posted April 22 Posted April 22 3 hours ago, OnlyManInTheWorld said: TTPD is my album of the year. Why would I care about their criticism? It feels to me only bored Taylor haters and Beyoncé fans do… Well you made a whole thread about it 1 3
Green Posted April 22 Posted April 22 ATRL stans only care about Pitchfork when they praise their faves Trust me you would be bragging if they gave her a 90 like when Swifties were bragging about the scores they gave to some of her old albums
Digitalism Posted April 22 Posted April 22 Atrl cares a lot about pitchfork Every pop girls has a separate thread for their reviews outside the review thread This has nothing to do with Taylor
Homebrand Posted April 22 Posted April 22 Nobody outside of atrl really cares for metacritic reviews in general so no
LoveInStereo Posted April 22 Posted April 22 Suddenly you're all pretending P4k has integrity? You guys cherry pick when they're relevant contingent on when you agree/disagree with them, it's so transparent. "Rolling Stone was afraid to be honest!". And that logic didn't apply to the other glowing reviews of big stars they've done recently with fans that are known to be just as vicious? The mark of being good is impressing a cynical curmudgeon at a failing rag & not actually resonating with the public? It makes no sense, you guys are bending over backwards to justify your bitterness that your fav artist is washed & someone you don't like has the success you wish they had
Vespertine Posted April 22 Posted April 22 4 hours ago, TayDuaStan said: sound pollution Bjork's Homogenic Life sentence, no parole.
Burn Posted April 22 Posted April 22 6 minutes ago, Homebrand said: Nobody outside of atrl really cares for metacritic reviews in general so no This is untrue. Other people who care about Metacritic reviews would be: - The artist themselves - The artist's label - People who worked on the album (producers, writers etc) - Fans/stans (outside of ATRL) - Award shows - Music magazines/publications - Brands affiliated with the artist It's delusional for you to think that Metacritic continues their business to cater to ATRL of all places which I doubt they're even aware of. 1
Homebrand Posted April 22 Posted April 22 2 minutes ago, Burn said: This is untrue. Other people who care about Metacritic reviews would be: - The artist themselves - The artist's label - People who worked on the album (producers, writers etc) - Fans/stans (outside of ATRL) - Award shows - Music magazines/publications - Brands affiliated with the artist It's delusional for you to think that Metacritic continues their business to cater to ATRL of all places which I doubt they're even aware of. Um I was obviously referring to in the sense the way ATRL carries on. Of course I would expect the artist themselves etc to care about their Metacritic score, why wouldn't they? I was clearly referring to the way atrl carries on about about reviews - who's crying about the p4k score outside of here?
Burn Posted April 22 Posted April 22 Just now, Homebrand said: Um I was obviously referring to in the sense the way ATRL carries on. Of course I would expect the artist themselves etc to care about their Metacritic score, why wouldn't they? I was clearly referring to the way atrl carries on about about reviews - who's crying about the p4k score outside of here? Taylor, I would guess.
YoungDreamer Posted April 22 Posted April 22 (edited) If the reviews are good, the stans share them everywhere as a accolade while the haters go with the "wow suddenly you care about review / they were paid by their PR team or label" talk. If the reviews are bad, fans go with the "wow suddenly you care about review / they weren't paid by their PR team or label" while haters share them everywhere. This applies to everyone, the metacritic score is only a status that is used on stanwars. This thread is pointless. Edited April 22 by GustavoBardusco
Sannie Posted April 22 Posted April 22 4 hours ago, Solaria said: You shouldn't have to care if you're a fan but it is pretty telling that Pitchfork doesn't bow down to threats from Swifties like RS would. This album has been very poorly received by honest critics and by music fans (not just pop music fans, that's the difference). That does paint a picture about how supposedly ''good'' this album actually is if you take Spotify numbers out of it. One person we all know cares... Taylor Swift. That is why she is retweeting positive reviews and name checking the reviews on Twitter. And considering the negative reviews are bringing her overall MC score down, I know she and her team are scrambling for a way to get the reviews removed. 1
JorgeM Posted April 22 Posted April 22 5 hours ago, Specter said: So...what exactly prevents one from flipping this question to "does anyone beside the Swifties really like the album?" Well the answer is obvious. People who like the album listen the album and you have millions of people listening the album. A lot millions more than listening any other album that Pitchfork decide are better. And to the original question no, before joining stan culture I have never heard about pitchfork.
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