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1 hour ago, Virgos Groove said:

I know some people are gonna turn this into stan war fodder, but there is a very necessary discussion that needs to be had about how music journalism is beyond dead.

 

We went from a rockist, anti-pop press to a stan-pandering, "poplacent" wave of critics. More and more, websites and newspapers are relying on freelancers, meaning the writers don't have any kind of institutional backing when they give out bad reviews. There's a strong chance they could lose access to events if an artist's team doesn't like their reviews.

 

This applies to the lady in my avi as well. There is no reason for Pitchfork to be saying "Spirit is bad, but she wants an Oscar, so let her have it" in their reviews, just like it makes no sense for someone writing a book overwhelmingly praiseful of Taylor Swift to be reviewing her newest album.

 

At the end of the day, what we have here is cultural journalism surrendering to big-label, ultra-rich celebrities.

U can cross out the word music - its a societal issue that journalism in general is horrible. Its just clicks, revenue-oriented. We have only emotional journalism that does not even try to be objective. Its become really bad overall

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The Irish Times 4.5/5

 

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Everybody knows she's paying for these reviews.

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This is absolutely wild :deadbanana2:

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NME really made a point here:

 

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Swift seems to be in tireless pursuit for superstardom, yet the negative public opinion it can come with irks her, and it's a tired theme now plaguing her discography and leaving little room for the poignant lyrical observations she excels at. It's why the pitfalls that mire her 11th studio album are all the more disappointing — she's proven time and time again she can do better. To a Melbourne audience of her Eras Tour, Swift said that 'The Tortured Poets Department' came from a "need" to write. It's just that maybe we didn't need to hear it.

 

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15 minutes ago, ttsmu said:

Everybody knows she's paying for these reviews.

We wish 

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she's definitely paying for these reviews, these awards, heck is she paying you swifties to pretend too?

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Just now, masochizm said:

 heck is she paying you swifties to pretend too?

nooo of course not help

 

558ED6D9-5433-4463-901E-02E360BEE544.thu

 

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2 minutes ago, masochizm said:

she's definitely paying for these reviews, these awards, heck is she paying you swifties to pretend too?

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Put narcotics into all of my songs
And that's why you're still singing along

Yes she put drugs into the songs, she said it herself :ryan3:

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I HATE the Grammy's for giving her AOTY this year. :rogue:

 

Everything about this release screams AOTY. :rogue:

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34 minutes ago, ttsmu said:

Everybody knows she's paying for these reviews.

Everybody also knows that you're fuming. :ryan3:

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2 hours ago, Virgos Groove said:

I know some people are gonna turn this into stan war fodder, but there is a very necessary discussion that needs to be had about how music journalism is beyond dead.

 

We went from a rockist, anti-pop press to a stan-pandering, "poplacent" wave of critics. More and more, websites and newspapers are relying on freelancers, meaning the writers don't have any kind of institutional backing when they give out bad reviews. There's a strong chance they could lose access to events if an artist's team doesn't like their reviews.

 

This applies to the lady in my avi as well. There is no reason for Pitchfork to be saying "Spirit is bad, but she wants an Oscar, so let her have it" in their reviews, just like it makes no sense for someone writing a book overwhelmingly praiseful of Taylor Swift to be reviewing her newest album.

 

At the end of the day, what we have here is cultural journalism surrendering to big-label, ultra-rich celebrities.

And the GP has already almost stopped reading reviews because they don't represent anything.

Only fan bases are keeping the publications alive. But soon all of our favs will get Marveled 

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this confirms that music reviewing is dead

the way that public reaction is more reliable these days :dies:

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9 minutes ago, Sugden said:

this confirms that music reviewing is dead

the way that public reaction is more reliable these days :dies:

Well currently she just had her biggest debut AM so sounds like the reception is pretty stunning so far

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good the public reaction is matching the critics then

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Rob Sheffield is the person that said "Britney Spears uses auto-tune the same way Bob Dylan used the harmonica" and gave Britney Jean and Beyoncé's Self-Titled the same score.

He is an utterly incompetent music critic, absolutely biased and unreliable and the fact Rolling Stone had him review Taylor's album when he's currently selling a book written just to praise her shows how much of an embarassment of a music publication they've become.

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50 minutes ago, M.R. said:

NME really made a point here:

 

 

I find this point interesting and don't disagree with it, but it feels heavily overstated; I mean, where does she even address this on the album? Only in Who's Afraid? This album certainly isn't a reflection on fame :skull:

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10 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

Well currently she just had her biggest debut AM so sounds like the reception is pretty stunning so far

 

8 minutes ago, Kern said:

good the public reaction is matching the critics then

 

are we gonna act like that is just not her fanbase? cmon now

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7 minutes ago, Shinning said:

Rob Sheffield is the person that said "Britney Spears uses auto-tune the same way Bob Dylan used the harmonica" and gave Britney Jean and Beyoncé's Self-Titled the same score.

:rip:

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8 minutes ago, Shinning said:

Rob Sheffield is the person that said "Britney Spears uses auto-tune the same way Bob Dylan used the harmonica" and gave Britney Jean and Beyoncé's Self-Titled the same score.

Nnn this classic :dies: What a FRAUD Rolling Stone have become.

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This whole release felt like Midnights 2.0, we all hated it at first and then switched when the acclaim and numbers came rolling in. I'm already switching :ghostface: but she truly does need to take a break and switch up the sound next time

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33 minutes ago, feelslikeadream said:

This album certainly isn't a reflection on fame :skull:

I do feel like on Daddy I love Him she basically confesses she was madly in love with Matt but her fandom's reaction and outrage made her end. I think is very depressing how she sacrificed love in order to please her toxic fandom. 

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50 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

Well currently she just had her biggest debut AM so sounds like the reception is pretty stunning so far

Sis, sales do not equate to quality

 

Like y'all are dense as hell

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If this ends up with a better score than Folklore (that deserved 90s for sure), I'll be mad lol

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It's fun to watch this do well critically as a large, loud subset of ATRLers tries to pretend it's terrible.

 

Either way, I'm just enjoying the massive new pile of music that I love. :heart:

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