Kristie Kuwa Posted April 19 Posted April 19 1 hour ago, Virgos Groove said: I know some people are gonna turn this into stan war fodder, but there is a very necessary discussion that needs to be had about how music journalism is beyond dead. We went from a rockist, anti-pop press to a stan-pandering, "poplacent" wave of critics. More and more, websites and newspapers are relying on freelancers, meaning the writers don't have any kind of institutional backing when they give out bad reviews. There's a strong chance they could lose access to events if an artist's team doesn't like their reviews. This applies to the lady in my avi as well. There is no reason for Pitchfork to be saying "Spirit is bad, but she wants an Oscar, so let her have it" in their reviews, just like it makes no sense for someone writing a book overwhelmingly praiseful of Taylor Swift to be reviewing her newest album. At the end of the day, what we have here is cultural journalism surrendering to big-label, ultra-rich celebrities. U can cross out the word music - its a societal issue that journalism in general is horrible. Its just clicks, revenue-oriented. We have only emotional journalism that does not even try to be objective. Its become really bad overall 9
M.R. Posted April 19 Posted April 19 NME really made a point here: Quote Swift seems to be in tireless pursuit for superstardom, yet the negative public opinion it can come with irks her, and it's a tired theme now plaguing her discography and leaving little room for the poignant lyrical observations she excels at. It's why the pitfalls that mire her 11th studio album are all the more disappointing — she's proven time and time again she can do better. To a Melbourne audience of her Eras Tour, Swift said that 'The Tortured Poets Department' came from a "need" to write. It's just that maybe we didn't need to hear it. 3
Cloröx Posted April 19 Author Posted April 19 15 minutes ago, ttsmu said: Everybody knows she's paying for these reviews. We wish
masochizm Posted April 19 Posted April 19 she's definitely paying for these reviews, these awards, heck is she paying you swifties to pretend too?
Kern Posted April 19 Posted April 19 Just now, masochizm said: heck is she paying you swifties to pretend too? nooo of course not help 1
TaylenaStan Posted April 19 Posted April 19 2 minutes ago, masochizm said: she's definitely paying for these reviews, these awards, heck is she paying you swifties to pretend too? Quote Put narcotics into all of my songs And that's why you're still singing along Yes she put drugs into the songs, she said it herself
Heldenzeit Posted April 19 Posted April 19 I HATE the Grammy's for giving her AOTY this year. Everything about this release screams AOTY.
Heldenzeit Posted April 19 Posted April 19 34 minutes ago, ttsmu said: Everybody knows she's paying for these reviews. Everybody also knows that you're fuming.
Digitalism Posted April 19 Posted April 19 2 hours ago, Virgos Groove said: I know some people are gonna turn this into stan war fodder, but there is a very necessary discussion that needs to be had about how music journalism is beyond dead. We went from a rockist, anti-pop press to a stan-pandering, "poplacent" wave of critics. More and more, websites and newspapers are relying on freelancers, meaning the writers don't have any kind of institutional backing when they give out bad reviews. There's a strong chance they could lose access to events if an artist's team doesn't like their reviews. This applies to the lady in my avi as well. There is no reason for Pitchfork to be saying "Spirit is bad, but she wants an Oscar, so let her have it" in their reviews, just like it makes no sense for someone writing a book overwhelmingly praiseful of Taylor Swift to be reviewing her newest album. At the end of the day, what we have here is cultural journalism surrendering to big-label, ultra-rich celebrities. And the GP has already almost stopped reading reviews because they don't represent anything. Only fan bases are keeping the publications alive. But soon all of our favs will get Marveled 1
Sugden Posted April 19 Posted April 19 this confirms that music reviewing is dead the way that public reaction is more reliable these days 3
Redstreak Posted April 19 Posted April 19 9 minutes ago, Sugden said: this confirms that music reviewing is dead the way that public reaction is more reliable these days Well currently she just had her biggest debut AM so sounds like the reception is pretty stunning so far 9
Shinning Posted April 19 Posted April 19 (edited) Rob Sheffield is the person that said "Britney Spears uses auto-tune the same way Bob Dylan used the harmonica" and gave Britney Jean and Beyoncé's Self-Titled the same score. He is an utterly incompetent music critic, absolutely biased and unreliable and the fact Rolling Stone had him review Taylor's album when he's currently selling a book written just to praise her shows how much of an embarassment of a music publication they've become. Edited April 19 by Shinning 5 2
ATRL Moderator feelslikeadream Posted April 19 ATRL Moderator Posted April 19 50 minutes ago, M.R. said: NME really made a point here: I find this point interesting and don't disagree with it, but it feels heavily overstated; I mean, where does she even address this on the album? Only in Who's Afraid? This album certainly isn't a reflection on fame
Sugden Posted April 19 Posted April 19 10 minutes ago, Redstreak said: Well currently she just had her biggest debut AM so sounds like the reception is pretty stunning so far 8 minutes ago, Kern said: good the public reaction is matching the critics then are we gonna act like that is just not her fanbase? cmon now
Sugden Posted April 19 Posted April 19 7 minutes ago, Shinning said: Rob Sheffield is the person that said "Britney Spears uses auto-tune the same way Bob Dylan used the harmonica" and gave Britney Jean and Beyoncé's Self-Titled the same score.
Virgos Groove Posted April 19 Posted April 19 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Shinning said: Rob Sheffield is the person that said "Britney Spears uses auto-tune the same way Bob Dylan used the harmonica" and gave Britney Jean and Beyoncé's Self-Titled the same score. Nnn this classic What a FRAUD Rolling Stone have become. Edited April 19 by Virgos Groove 1
shookspeare Posted April 19 Posted April 19 This whole release felt like Midnights 2.0, we all hated it at first and then switched when the acclaim and numbers came rolling in. I'm already switching but she truly does need to take a break and switch up the sound next time
Richie.Valdez Posted April 19 Posted April 19 33 minutes ago, feelslikeadream said: This album certainly isn't a reflection on fame I do feel like on Daddy I love Him she basically confesses she was madly in love with Matt but her fandom's reaction and outrage made her end. I think is very depressing how she sacrificed love in order to please her toxic fandom.
Lose My Breath Posted April 19 Posted April 19 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Redstreak said: Well currently she just had her biggest debut AM so sounds like the reception is pretty stunning so far Sis, sales do not equate to quality Like y'all are dense as hell Edited April 19 by Lose My Breath 1 2
Lose My Breath Posted April 19 Posted April 19 If this ends up with a better score than Folklore (that deserved 90s for sure), I'll be mad lol
Cruel Summer Posted April 19 Posted April 19 It's fun to watch this do well critically as a large, loud subset of ATRLers tries to pretend it's terrible. Either way, I'm just enjoying the massive new pile of music that I love. 1 1
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